Lillian Harriet Georgina Welsh nee Secord 17th June 1868 death 1966 ? marriage to William John Welsh snr , but apparently he was married to Annie Maria Martin, children Annie, Corrie Elisabeth and David . any help would be greatly apricated <script src :: FamilyTreeCircles.com Genealogy
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Lillian Harriet Georgina Welsh nee Secord 17th June 1868 death 1966 ? marriage to William John Welsh snr , but apparently he was married to Annie Maria Martin, children Annie, Corrie Elisabeth and David . any help would be greatly apricated

Surnames: SECORD WELSH
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on 2023-02-09 04:30:46

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by ngairedith on 2023-02-11 03:37:57

Hi Dibbs, welcome to Family Tree Circles
Lillian Harriett Georgina Secord was born in Christchurch on 15 June 1868, the 6th of 6 children of Guy (sometimes Grey) Stephen Secord & Martha Winifred Dunford who married in Christchurch on 2 June 1859.
* Her father (1833-1883) was born in Ontario, Canada and he died of a stroke in Christchurch on 18 Aug 1868, when Lillian was just 2 months old. He was 34 years old
* Her mother Martha Winifred Dunford (1841-1883), was born in Wiltshire, England. She next married William Kemble (1850-1905) in 1874 & had 4 children.
. After Martha died in Christchurch on 25 March 1883, William next married Martha's daughter, (Lillian's sister), Rose Henrietta Mary Secord (1865-1945) in 1884 & had 7 children.

Lillian Harriet Georgina Secord married William John Welsh (1864-1918) in Ashburton on 23 April 1883
children of Lillian & William
1883 - 1947 Jane Welsh (+ Beavis)
1885 - 1885 Nicholas Welsh (age 4 months)
1887 - 1953 Nicholas Welsh
1888 - 1888 Mary Ann Welsh (age 11 days)
1890 - 1967 Mary Ann Welsh (+ Boucher)
1892 - 1969 James Welsh
1898 - 1899 William Michael? - see below

William & Annie Maria Martin had 4 children from 1895, before they married on 6 June 1902. So William and Lilian were probably separated by then and Lillian was either deceased or divorced by 1902 (OR, read below).
children of William & Annie
1895 - 1924 Annie Maria Welsh
. married Charles Edwin Anderson in 1918
1897 - Elisabeth Welsh
. married Gustave Victor Berg in 1921
1900 - 1974 Corrie Welsh
. Corrie didn't marry. She was a nurse in Wanganui in 1925
1903 - 1981 David Welsh
. married Gweneth Mabel Clark in 1928

William & Anna are buried together in St Joseph's Catholic Cemetery in Darfield, Selwyn

NOTES
It is said that Lillian died in 1917. Her burial place not yet found.
However, when son James Welsh enlisted for war from Hororata in 1915 as Sapper 4/1115 with the NZ Field Engineers, 6th Reinforcements, his next of kin was his sister Jane Beavis in Upper Hutt

And when son Nicholas Welsh left for war in 1918 as Private 73558 with the 38th Reinforcements, D Company, NZEF, his next of kin was his aunty Mrs W. Cumeen of Hororata
* This is a very suspect name. There are no marriages or births in NZ for Cumeen. There was 1 death only. On 5 Feb 1899, an 8 week old William Michael Cumeen died, therefore born Dec 1898, but not under the name of Cumeen, nor of Welsh, nor of Secord. I have my suspicions that he may have been a son of Lillian and that Nicholas's next of kin, aunty Mrs Cumeen in 1917 may have also been Lillian (in hiding).

I hope others who read your post can shed more light on this

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