Angus Brown (Browne) - was he father of John Brown (e), who helped found Hampton, NH??
YankeeRoots
Looking for someone to provide some documentary evidence that John Brown, (the well-documented settler who followed the aged Reverend Stephen Bachelor [Bachiler, etc.] to what eventually became Hampton, New Hampshire, is related to Angus Brown of London, England. This Angus is, according to some, supposedly descended from the aristocratic Brown Family of Fordel, Scotland. Getting back to known Hampton settler John, one of my many-times great grandfathers, we have some evidence that he probably arrived aboard the ship Elizabeth in 1635, married the teenaged Sarah Walker who was in his employ, and arrived in Hampton around 1640. He was apparently amongst the second group of land grantees (the first having been issued to the town’s original proprietors). As for John Browne’s lineage, we actually have 2 missing links here - John's father needs to be documented, and if it is Angus, we also need Angus' pedigree. I have corresponded with someone who claims to have visited Angus' burial in a London church, but he stopped corresponding before telling me where that was, and what the inscription might have said. Anyone with documentation, we need your help!
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jcrossen on 2015-01-06 17:31:08John owned a bakery in London and Sarah Walker and her brother worked for him. They all traveled on the Elizabeth together. I have notes from my great grandmother about this. I have run into the same blocks and would love to know more about the family in England. There is a book called, Genealogy of John Brown of Hampton, New Hampshire written by Marguerite Willette, 1924- but I have been unable to see a copy yet.
lennonfreddie on 2015-01-16 01:53:24I have the book genealogy of John Brown of Hampton, It has absolutely nothing more than what you already know about John in it. I have been searching for years but have found nothing about where he came from before he left England. Only father Angus of Fordell, Scotland. would love some help with this also!
jerrydebruin on 2015-07-02 03:54:17Hi I am from South Africa and also looking for documentation of my great grand father. His name was Henry Bamptan Browne (Born in UK), my Grand Father was Richard Bamptan Browne (Born in South Africa 1892. According to my knowledge they arrived here on a ship. I have asked some one to look for him but a dead end. With the hidden prince that stayed with the Hampton`s. If you have any info for me to look at I would be grateful.
Clifford29 on 2022-07-28 17:46:07My maiden name is Clifford and I have traced my ancestry back to John Clifford 1614-1694 originally from Bobbing, Kent, England (not Arnold Parish). I show his father is George Clifford of Bobbing (dates unknown) and his mother Lady Elizabeth Nethersole around 1590-1645. One source says George & Elizabeth were married in England in 1612 and later immigrated to Boston with their son John who was baptized in Boston as an adult on 10 May 1646. Some of my sources say Elizabeth was step-sister to George as his mother (Jane or Jana) was earlier married to Elizabeth's father, Edward Nethersole. Very confusing! Several Ancestry trees suggest John's parents were actually the 3rd Earl of Cumberland, George Clifford 1558-1605 and Countess of Cumberland Margaret (Russell) Clifford 1560-1664. But all my research says they had 2 boys who died young and only the daughter Anne survived to adulthood. So these two can't be parents to the George Clifford who married Elizabeth Nethersole. If John's father is indeed a "George Clifford of Bobbing Kent England" it has to be a different George than the 3rd Earl of Cumberland who married Margaret Russell. Also, as stated above, George's mother (John's grandmother) would be a Jane/Jana (Nethersole) Clifford, stepmother of Elizabeth (Nethersole) Clifford and former wife of Elizabeth's father, Edward Nethersole. Please help to support or dispute this information and possibly add more information and sources as I'm stuck!
YankeeRoots on 2023-01-13 16:46:36Belated thanks to all of those who have commented on this post. I don’t check the page as often as I should, but we all live such busy lives these days, I’m sure I can be forgiven. To Clifford29 I see you have posted your comment in response to one of my other journals, likely the one entitled John Clifford of Hampton, NH, so it was unexpected for me to find the comments on this page. No matter, I still appreciate the input and congratulate you for your willingness to do deep research on our fellow ancestor. So, Clifford29, kindly just look at my Sep 2022 posting entitled George Clifford (Which is Which?) and the Clifford Family pedigree in England. The easiest ways to find it are to click on my user name (YankeeRoots) to see my postings, then select that one. Otherwise, you can just do a web search “George Clifford Which is Which familytreecircles”. I think it will help clear up the confusion for you.