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DINNIE marriages New Zealand 1920 - 1929

Journal by ngairedith

the known DINNIE marriages New Zealand 1920 - 1929:
Cecil Hay Dinnie
- married Dorothy Kathleen AUSTWICK 26 August 1920 in Wellington
- their children were:
14 July 1921 - Jean Betty Dinnie in Wellington
8 October 1927 - John Stanley Dinnie in Wellington

Donald Roy McGregor Dinnie
- married Florence Hamilton HODGSON (1894-1968) in 1928
- their children were:
1 January 1931 - 1989 Patricia Anne Dinnie in Wellington
Joy Dinnie

Douglas Montague Dinnie
- married Elsie Myrtle WISE 17 November 1928
- their child was:
26 October 1929 - Valmae Dinnie in Wellington

the above 3 Dinnie were sons of:
WALTER DINNIE born 26 December 1850 in Aboyne, Aberdeenshire, and died 7 May 1923 in Kelburn, Wellington
- He married FREDERICA MATILDA KEMP 18 October 1883 in Croydon, Surrey, England, daughter of WILLIAM KEMP and MARIE MARTIN
- he was born 30 December 1861 in Melfield, Stradbroke, Hoxne, Suffolk & Northfolk, England, and died 4 November 1935 in Wellington, New Zealand

the following was taken from the site Descendants of John Dinnie
note, Walter is No. 70

Notes for WALTER DINNIE:
His photograph is displayed in a glass display case at the Training College for the New Zealand Police at Porirua, Wellington, New Zealand.

At the 1872 Aboyne Games Walter competed in 3 events, 4th in Pole Vaulting with 8'8'', equal 4th in the High Leap with 4'10'', 4th Hurdels Race (10 hurdles) with William McCombie Smith finishing 2nd on all these evnts with 8'10' in the Pole Vaulting, 5'2'' in theHigh Leap.

Commissioner Walter Dinnie, Born 26th December 1850, Aboyne, Aberdeenshire, son of Robert Dinnie, a contractor, poet, and historian and brother of Donald Dinnie, world champion athlete. Walter Dinnie was educated at Aberdeen Grammar School where he also became an amateur athlete. He pursued his sporting interests with considerable success throughout his police career.

Listed in the 1871 Census of St. Nicholas 168/01 017/000 008 as a 19 year old Draper living at 14 St. Andrew Street, St.Nicholas, Aberdeen.

1871 - Assistant Clerk, National Bank of Scotland, Aberdeen.

1873 - Joined West Riding of Yorkshire Constabulary, Bradford.

1875 - Clerical duties to Superintendent at Goole.

1876 - Joined Metropolitan Police "A" Division.

1876 - Clerk, Executive Branch, Old Scotland Yard.

1879 - Promoted Sergeant and appointed clerk to the Chief Constable of Criminal Investigation Department, Old Scotland Yard. Specialised in Criminal Records.

1881 - Listed in the Census of St. Margaret RG11 0117/44 Page 9 as a 27 year old Police Sergeant logding at 22 King Sreeet Police Station, St. Margaret, Westminster, London, Middlesex.

1882 - Appointed Detective Sergeant, Old Scotland Yard. Specialised in extensive fraud and forgery enquiries.

1889 - Rose through the ranks to Detective Chief Inspector. Solved a number of notable cases and was responsible for the arrest of the "man who broke the Bank at Monte Carlo" in 1893.

Listed in the 1891 Census as a 40 year old Detective Inspector of Police living at 34 Kay Road, Lambeth, London with his 29 year old wife Fredrica M. and their children Edmond W. age 7, Frank A. age 5, Donald R.M. age 1 and a 'newly born infant' 3 days old. The infant was Cecil Hay Dinnie. Also in the household was a 66 year widow, Elizabeth Glancite a Domestic Nurse.

In the same year Walter brought to justice arsonists of 'The London Fire Ring'.

From a newspaper cutting:-

The "Man who Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo" (Charles Wells) was arrested in 1893 and brought to England by Walter Dinnie. It is an actual fact that this individual did break the bank upon one occassion but he subseauently lost all his winnings. He had elaborate engineering premises in the west end, with boats running on the Thames and a beautiful yacht, upon which he was arrested.

In 1898 Walter caught the thief who stole the Duchess of Sutherland's Jewels.

In 1901 he was instumental in setting up the new system of registering and identifying criminals with fingerprint identification being at the forefront of his integrated information system.

Listed in the 1901 Census of Clapham Ref RG13, Piece 464, Folio 7, Page 5, Sch.No. 35 as a 48 year old Chief Inspector Police living at 56 Bromfelde Road, Clapham, London with his 39 year old wife Frederick and their children Edmund age 16, Frank age 14, Donald age 11 and Cecil age 9.


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Chief Inspector W Dinnie
Accompanied By: Chief Inspector Davidson
Port of departure: Cape Town, South Africa
Port of Arriival: Southamption, England
Ship Name: Kildonan Castle
Master's Name: A Rendall

1903 - Retired 5th April, on a large pension, from the London Metropolitan Police to take up Commissionership of New Zealand Police, replacing J.B.Turnbridge. On the 23rd April the whole family sailed from London on the S.S.Ruapehu, arriving in Wellington on the 8th June 1903.

Took up his post in July 1903.

Travelling to New Zealand with the Dinnie family was Walter's niece, Isabella Anderson Smith, daughter of Willliam McCombie Smith, and Nory Celia Dinnie, Walter's sister.

Bell was a qualified teacher, employed as the nannie to the five Dinnie sons.

Walter Established Finger Print Section of New Zealand Police, and on the 6th July appointed son Edmund Walter Dinnie, an experienced Finger Print expert with the London Metropolitan Police, as officer in charge.

1905 - Introduced physical training to New Zealand Police.

1908 - Issued memorandum on 27th February 1908 commencing collection of crime exhibition which established the basis of New Zealand Police Museum Collection. E W Dinnie supervised the collection till his retirement in 1947.

1909 - on the 22nd December resigned as Commissioner of New Zealand Police.

1910 - Was on six month paid retirement from 1st January. Appointed president of the Tokerau District Moari Land Board on the 1st July, moving to Auckland to take up the post.

1914 - New legislation resulted in the post ceased to exist from the 31st March. Walter after being turned down for various posts set up as a private detective and resettled in Wellington.

1915 - He sued the Crown for ?501 damages for wrongful dismissal and denial of his full super-annuation rights.

1916 - Refused an offer to becoming the Assistant Commissioner of Police in Samoa

1923 - Walter Dinnie died at Wellington on 7 May 1923 aged 71 survived by Frederica and their sons. The archetypal gentleman detective, he consolidated Tunbridge's policing reforms and introduced new techniques of criminal investigation, but he had been embroiled in controversy for most of his official career in New Zealand. Circumstances and egotism had led to a once internationally renowned detective ending his years in obscurity and bitterness.

Burial: 9 May 1923 in Plot 510H - Section PUBLIC2 at Karori
Cause of Death: Congestion of the Lungs

Fredericka Matilda died 4 November 1935 aged 73
- she is buried with Walter


Children of WALTER DINNIE and FREDERICA KEMP are:

EDMUND WALTER DINNIE
- born 14 August 1884, Lamberth, London, England
- Occupation: Policeman
- married Margaret Emily YATES (1885-1951) 12 June 1909 in London
- he married Kathleen Mabel MARRINER (1909-1992) 14 Aug 1951 Wellington
- their adopted child, Alma Joyce Dinnie (1919-1994) married Lionel Frederick JEMMETT (1919-1986)
- Edmund died 23 April 1962 in Wellington and was cremated at Karori

FRANK ADOLPHUS DINNIE
- born 5 April 1886, at 7 St. Stephens Terace, South Lambeth, Kennington, Surrey
- occupation: Papercutter
- died 17 July 1940 aged 54
- buried Plot 109E, Sectin PUBLIC3 at Karori
- nothing else known

DONALD ROY MCGREGOR DINNIE
- born 3 June 1889, Clapham, Wandsworth, London, England
- Occupation: Civil Servant, Clerk
- he passed his NZ Civil Service Junior Examinations in 1906 (678th)
- Donald served in WWI as Sergeant 2/2605 with the NZEF 9th Reinforcements New Zealand Field Artillery
- his next of kin: father Walter Dinnie of Pipitea St Wellington
- he embarked from Wellington 8 January 1916
- Donald died 26 July 1971, War Veterns Home, Levin, Wellington

CECIL HAY DINNIE
- born 4 April 1891, 34 Kay Road, Laudor Rd, Lambeth, Kennington
- served in WWI as Sergeant 10/3159 with the 8th Reinforcements, Wellington Infantry Battalion
- Sergent Cecil Hay Dinnie M.M., M.D.
- enlisted from 47 Mulgrave St, Wellington
- embarked from Wellington on 13 November 1915
- his next of kin was his father, Walter Dinnie c/o E. W. Dinnie, Garden Rd, Northland, Wellington
- in 1918 he was reported as "very ill through gunshot wound in the right eye, now at 20th general Hospital, Dannes, Camiers France"
- his later occupation was a Traffic Manager
- Cecil died 21 July 1948 in Wellington
- buried Plot 45 R/3, Section Soldiers at Karori

DOUGLAS MONTAGUE DINNIE
- born 9 April 1902, Clapham, Wandsowrth, London, England
- he was a Motor Mechanic
- died 23 June 1989 in Southport, Queensland, Australia


NOTE
When Walter Dinnie was appointed Commissioner of Police for New Zealand in 1903, his neice, Isabella Anderson Smith also moved with the Dinnie family. Isabella was a qualified teacher, employed by her uncle Walter Dinnie as nannie to his five children
- On the 23rd April she and the Dinnie family sailed from London on the S.S. Ruapehu, arriving in Wellington on the 8th June1903.

'Bell' (named after Isabella Anderson, wife of Montague Dinnie) was born 7 May 1878 in Maryhill, Glasgow and died 14 March 1943 in Wellington, New Zealand. She married DOUGLAS POLLOCK BAGNALL 23 December 1909 in Wellington, New Zealand. He was a son of THOMAS BAGNALL and ISABELLA POLLOCK. He was born 1873 in Kings Norton, Birmingham, and died 27 June 1934 in Whangarei, New Zealand.

Children of ISABELLA SMITH and DOUGLAS BAGNALL are:

DOUGLAS ROBERT BAGNALL,
- born 27 October 1910, Palmerston North
- Squadron Leader, RNZAF received the Distinguised Flying Cross WWII
- died October 1996, Auckland

NORY ISABEL BAGNALL
- born 20 October 1912, Russell
- died 10 January 1983, Palmerston North

DOROTHY KATHLEEN BAGNALL
- born 7 October 1915
- died 15 November 1988, Meremere

CECILE JEAN BAGNALL
- born 16 June 1918, Kawakawa
- died 17 July 1997, Auckland

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