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Query by Traciem62

Looking for descendants of Fred Oldham wife Florrie Brownwood .. Most Oldhams lived in either Blackburn or Burnley, Lancashire

Surnames: Duckworth Hornby Oldham Reeve Walmsley
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on 2014-04-16 18:29:07

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by noggin on 2014-04-17 05:31:29

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Fred Oldham
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1910
Registration district: Burnley
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 494
Records on Page:
Spouse Name: Florrie Brownwood

You do not give any indication of date of marriage so is the above them ? Who are you looking for besides this couple. Parents, grandparents, Children, Sibblings, Are you trying to go forward ( children) or backward (parents etc)

by noggin on 2014-04-17 05:35:29

1911 England Census
Name: Mr Fred Oldham
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 71 Albert St Burnley Lancashire
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: General Labourer

Fred Oldham 24 Both born Burnley
Florrie Oldham 20 b 1891

This gives an approx date of birth fo both people

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-17 05:42:50

These two people are definitely the ones. I know Fred's father was John William Oldham and Elizabeth Ann ?????.

John William was born on 13.4.1866 and baptised on 29..4.1866 at Christ Church, Blackburn. His parents were James Oldham and Emma???????

thanks very much for kindly sharing this information

by noggin on 2014-04-18 17:14:09

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Name JOHN WILLIAM OLDHAM
Year 1885
Event Quarter 3
Spouse - ELIZABETH ANN DUERDEN
Country England
County Lancashire
District BURNLEY
Volume 8E
Page 400
Line Number 29

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-18 17:16:29

That's it, thanks very much AGAIN :)

by noggin on 2014-04-18 17:23:01

Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name: John William Oldham
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1866
Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1866
Parish: Blackburn, Christ Church
Father: James Oldham
Mother: Emma Oldham
Reference Number: Pr 3074/1/1



England, Select Marriages, 1538?1973
Name: James Oldham
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1845
Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1865
Marriage Place: St. Mary-The-Virgin Church, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Emma Duckworth
FHL Film Number: 1278819
Reference ID: 160

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-18 17:59:37

Thanks Noggin, I don't know if there was any other children as I only have john William. I was given the wrong the DOB for john William. my biggest brick wall is James Oldham's parents all I can find is a Nancy Oldham who is possibly his mother.

by noggin on 2014-04-19 06:19:12

1861 England Census
Name: James Oldham
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: 1846
Relation: Stepson
Mother's name: Nancy Hornby
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Occupation: Cotton Waever

William Hornby 32
Nancy Hornby 39 List as Step son so mother Nancy remarried !
James Oldham 15
Elizth Hornby 10
Rich Hornby 9
Jane Hornby 4
Alice Hornby 6/12
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1871 England Census
Name: James Oldham
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Oldham
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Chadderton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

James Oldham 25
Emma Oldham 26
James Oldham 2
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1881 England Census
Name: James Oldham
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emma Oldham
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Habergham Eaves
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 47 Russell St
Marital Status: Married

James Oldham 35 Cotton weaver
Emma Oldham 36
John W. Oldham 15
James Oldham 12
Richard Oldham 4
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1891 England Census
Name: James Oldham
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Oldham
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Habergham Eaves
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 57 Marlborough Street
Occupation: Cotton weaver

James Oldham 45
Emma Oldham 46
Richard Oldham 14 b Haywood
Ada Oldham 8 b Burnley

by noggin on 2014-04-19 06:21:35

This looks like James's Baptism. So he may have been born out of wedlock.

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: James Oldham
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1845
Baptism Date: 1845
Baptism Place: St. Mary, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Mother: Nancy Oldham
FHL Film Number: 1278805
Reference ID: P 20

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-19 06:27:06

James was William Hornby's step son , all records show Nancy was single No father recorded.

Marriage: 22 Dec 1849 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
William Hornby - (X), 24 Bolt Maker Bachelor of Blackburn
Nancy Oldham - (X), 28 Spinster of Blackburn
Groom's Father: Richard Hornby, Labourer
Bride's Father: James Oldham, Loomer
Witness: Thomas Livesey; John Pilkington
Married by Certificate by: W. J. Monk
Register: Marriages 1849 - 1850, Page 81, Entry 162
Source: LDS Film 1278818

by noggin on 2014-04-19 06:42:24

This looks like Nancy's wedding to William Hornby. It states her father was James Oldham and she was born 1821. So it looks like she had James while Still single

England, Select Marriages, 1538?1973
Name: Nancy Oldham
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Birth Date: 1821
Marriage Date: 1849
Marriage Place: St. Mary, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Father: James Oldham
Spouse: William Hornby
FHL Film Number: 1278818
Reference ID: 2:3VXMNV7
...........................................................................
This could be Nancy's Baptism

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Nancy Oldham
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 Jan 1822
Christening Place: St. Paul's, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1822
Father's Name: James Oldham
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01370-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470927
Reference ID: item 13
..............................................................................

Go to this site :

https://familysearch.org/search

ONLY enter surname, place of birth Lancashitre, Date range 1800 -1840, click on Parents and just enter Christen names. You will find a number of baptims of Nancy's siblings

by noggin on 2014-04-19 06:47:57

Re above I think this might be Nancy's parents marriage so alter the above range to 1818-1840

"England Marriages, 1538?1973 "
Name: James Oldham
Spouse's Name: Betty Walmsley
Event Date: 14 Dec 1818
Event Place: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00708-5
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1278807

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-19 07:05:31

Cant thank you enough, I have been stuck on this family , you are a legend :)

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-19 07:29:45

I just checked James Oldham and Betty Walmsley marriage it states that James was a Widower.???

by Traciem62 on 2014-04-21 06:34:07

James Oldham and Betty Walmsley , I thought having their date of marriage might have helped but details regarding them has turned out to be very elusive.

by Traciem62 on 2017-04-28 02:20:00

John William was born on 13.4.1866 and baptised on 29..4.1866 at Christ Church, Blackburn, Lancashire..His parents were James Oldham and Emma Duckworth married 1865

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