Where were Albert and Hannah Potts (Pruden) born. Do you know approx dates of birth ?

New Zealand BMDs
Marriage 1921/1993 Hannah Elizabeth Pruden to Albert Potts

Birth 1894/3915 Potts Albert Alexander - Mother Alice - Father Andrew Alexander

Death 1961/23498 Potts Albert 75Y
1962/41752 Potts Albert Alexander 68Y

Two Albert Potts both with fathers named R Potts no date of birth to compare.


New Zealand WW1 Soldiers Transcription
Name Albert Potts
Regimental Number 12/841
Rank Private
Last Address Clifton Symonds St Auckland
Next Of Kin Title R POTTS
Next Of Kin Relationship Father
Next Of Kin Address 104 London St Wanganui
Year 1914-18
Marital Status S
Body Or Draft Main Body -
Unit Or Regiment Auckland Infantry Batln
Country New Zealand
Record set New Zealand WW1 soldiers
Category Military Service & Conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Australia & New Zealand



New Zealand WW1 Soldiers Transcription
Name Albert Potts
Regimental Number 67542
Rank Private
Last Address 2 Russell Place off Cook St Auckland
Next Of Kin Title R POTTS
Next Of Kin Relationship Father
Next Of Kin Address Newcastle England
Year 1914-18
Marital Status S
Body Or Draft Fourth
Unit Or Regiment Auckland Infantry Batln
Country New Zealand
Record set New Zealand WW1 soldiers
Category Military Service & Conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Australia & New Zealand

Hi There, thanks for response. Albert Potts was born 1886 dies 1961. He married Hannah Pruden (nee Bloomfield on 15 July 1921, they had two children, Nancy Lynette being the only surviving. The other child either died at birth or soon after. Hannah Elizabeth Potts (nee Pruden) was born in Essex in 1878, she died in 1963 in New Zealand. Hannah was the daughter of Joseph Bloomfield 1849-1918 and Elizabeth Thorp Read 1849-1928.
I have Albert Potts dog tag from the war it carries this information: NZ Military Corps, 4th Regiment, 12/2084, the last number I guess would be his enrolment no, as this appears on two medals for him as well. My husband said Alberts father was called Robert.

All New Zealand Army WWI Nominal Rolls, 1914-1918

New Zealand WW1 Soldiers Transcription
Name Albert Potts
Regimental Number 67542 **
Rank Private
Last Address 2 Russell Place off Cook St Auckland
Next Of Kin Title R POTTS
Next Of Kin Relationship Father
Next Of Kin Address Newcastle England
Year 1914-18
Marital Status S
Body Or Draft Fourth
Unit Or Regiment Auckland Infantry Batln
Country New Zealand
Record set New Zealand WW1 soldiers
Category Military Service & Conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Australia & New Zealand

** I found these entries on two site the second site had his Reg. No 12/2084

New Zealand Army WWI Nominal Rolls, 1914-1918
Name: Albert Potts
Regimental Number: 12/2084 **
Last Residence: Auckland
Relative Name: R Potts
Relative Relationship: Father
Embarkation: 1914-1915

From this it would suggest Albert is from Newcastle England and is father is R Potts.

when Albert returned from the front into Auckland, 6 Feb 1916 on the 'Rotorua', his father Robert was living in Aramoho, Wanganui

Thankyou both for your responses. I need information on Alberts parents, as well as Albert himself. My husband seems to recall Albert was discharged from the front with a medical disorder. Does anyone know what he did when he was sent home? His wife Hannah lived with my mother in law in Rotorua for a long time and Albert used to visit very sporadically. He lived in single mens army camp, somewhere near Hamilton I think.

To add
I have a copy of a Certificate of Transfer to Reserve and Discharge for L/Cpl Albert POTTS No 32807 Corps R.N.Z.A.O.C identifying he enlisted at Ngaruawahia on the 1st April,1948. Date of birth is shown as 4 October 1886. Discharged 13 January, 1957 in consequence of having completed engagement. Think he either reenlisted again after that but was living at the Army base for many years after that, which would tie in with above.

Also a copy of document that shows that Albert POTTS was invalided from Bighi Hospital in Malta- bronchio Pneumonia and dysentery and query Tb. Admission was 20.08.15 . Albert POTTS was with the 6th Hauraki Auckland Infantry aged 29years. Disposal 29.08.15. There is a note that "as he will not be fit for active service for a lengthened period ( handwritten 3 months) he s dis charged for England" stamped Royal Naval Hospital Malta. Have a copy of a photo that shows Albert Potts at Beaufort Hospital, Walton on Thames Jan 1916.

Thanks to above for the additional i

This sounds like him, photo would be appreciated. I thought he was a private, but maybe he was upgraded????? My husband did say he was sent home because of illness. There is also another posting saying he came back to NewZealand on the boat Rotorua, I have tried to find passenger list, with not much luck. Thanks so much for your help.

If you read post above, his number on dog tags was 12/2084, is that the enlist number??????

Have you tried this site, you may find his full army records there. if not they may be able to tell you where to search or apply for records

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/researching-first-world-war-soldiers

Look on this site FIRST:

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/SimpleSearchResults.do

Your Albert is the 3rd entry from the top ( POTTS, Albert - WWI 12/2084, WWII 813040, TF 32807 - Army ). He must have had 3 seperate reg numbers for each time he enlisted.

I believe you can only view the records in Archives New Zealand, National Office, Wellington 10 Mulgrave Street Wellington 6011.

I am UK based so not sure of New Zealand records. If you know Albert's Mother's name I can do a search on the family in the UK. I know it states father R Potts Newcastle as his father but was Albert and his family born there or just living there when he enlisted.

I am away on hols till Tuesday so will not reply straight away

re above
... L/Cpl Albert POTTS No 32807 Corps R.N.Z.A.O.C identifying he enlisted at Ngaruawahia on the 1st April, 1948 ...

This means that Albert was aged 61 at that enlistment
The R.N.Z.A.O.C was the Royal New Zealand Army Ordnance Corps, a supply and repair corps. In the supply area it had responsibility for weapons, armoured vehicles and other military equipment, ammunition and clothing and certain minor functions such as laundry, mobile baths and photography. The RAOC was also responsible for a major element of the repair of Army equipment. In 1942 the latter function was transferred to the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers and the vehicle storage and spares responsibilities of the Royal Army Service Corps were in turn passed over to the RAOC. The RAOC retained repair responsibilities for ammunition, clothing and certain ranges of general stores.

... Prior to 1981/82 the Royal Army Ordnance Corps, in common with the rest of the British Army, used the idiosyncratic system of staff titles that was unique to British and most Commonwealth armies ...

From 1920 the Ngaruawahia Army Camp was at Hopuhopu (Taupiri) 6km NE of Ngaruawahia, Waikato, on Great South Rd (the old Taupiri Road). It was originally a block of land (about 1400 acres), on the Waikato river, which was granted to the Bishop of the Church of England as a reserve for a school and other public purposes. Soldiers were trained there during the Second World War. There were many barracks and sheds (drill sheds & others) and was quite a community. (I lived in the area for years) and I'm guessing that's where Albert lived.
- In 1993 the land was returned to Waikato-Tainui

Albert died 28 January 1961 aged 75 (still in the Waikato)
he is buried in Hamilton East cemetery, location SOLD3-0-35

hello Vuletich,
here is the passenger list of the returning sick & wounded soldiers
BACK FROM THE FRONT on the HMNZ 'Rotorua' Feb 1916

Thanks for the above info - love to have social context

The other Robert Potts who enlisted with the father in Newcastle interests me - Who was he?

Re Robert and Matilda POTTS parents

Matilda CROMBIE - 1845/46 chr 1850 St Andres Newcastle on Tyne - died 1919 and buried at Kumeu Auckland New Zealand.Large headstone in old section Her parents were John CROMBIE and Lilias RENTON originally from Scotland and later moved to Newcastle on Tyne.
There were possibly eight children in their family. Have names but nothing else.

Robert POTTS parents were Robert POTTS ( abt 1818- 1839)confectioner in 1871 according to son Robert's marriage cert and Elizabeth BURNETT ( abt 1818- death unknown) from Newcastle on Tyne. Robert Potts had two sisters that we know of Lily ( possibly Lilias after mother) and sister Bessie ( probably Elizabeth after grandmother). They wrote to Albert POTTS in 1919 from address- 1 Newgate Street, Newcastle on Tyne. In that letter they state that had a visit from his parents who would be their brother Robert and wife Matilda after they had been in NZ many years.

Another intrigue - I have a copy of a photo of a young woman, photographer Armstrong and Greer, in Dunedin and a pencil note that indicates a sister of Robert POTTS yet she looks very similar to a photograph identified as "Bess?e Crombie" in later taken years by a photographer in Newcastle on Tyne.

Hey everyone. My name is Rodney Potts. Father: Reginald Potts, Grandfather: Herbert Potts married Theresa Patricia Gooch. Great Grandfather: Robert Potts married Minnie May Rogers, Great Great Grandfather: Robert Potts married Matilda Crombie, Great Great Great Grandfather: Robert Potts married Elizabeth Burnett. Have had trouble going back any further and would appreciate any help to locate any information for the 4th great grandfather.

Hey everyone. My name is Rodney Potts. Father: Reginald Potts, Grandfather: Herbert Potts married Theresa Patricia Gooch. Great Grandfather: Robert Potts married Minnie May Rogers, Great Great Grandfather: Robert Potts married Matilda Crombie, Great Great Great Grandfather: Robert Potts married Elizabeth Burnett. Have had trouble going back any further and would appreciate any help to locate any information for the 4th great grandfather.

Hi , My Name is Louise Edwards Nee Potts. My father is Gregory Potts, his father was Gordon Ernest Potts, His Father was Robert Potts the brother of Albert Potts.
I am looking for any info about any of the Potts Family as they are a great mystery in our family.