Looking for Thomas Dutton who died in 1858
kerbent
Below is Mary Ann Dillon's second marriage, she was previously married to Thomas Dutton, who according to the 2 transcribed marriage certificates below he appears to have died in 1858.
I have not been able to find his death, according to the Victorian BDM site he did not die in Victoria, Australia
Would love to make contact with anyone who has any information on Thomas Dutton or his wife or only surviving child Catherine Dutton.
Transcription of Marriage Certificate for Mary Ann Dutton to John Edwards 1868
Citation:- Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Marriage Certificate Mary Ann Dutton & John Edwards, Mary Ann Dutton & John Edwards, 4649 yr 1868
When & Where- Fifteenth October 1868 Registrars Office Geelong
Name and Surname of Parties Groom- John Edwards
Name and Surname of Parties Bride - Mary Ann Dutton
Condition of Parties Groom - Bachelor
Condition of Parties Bride - Widow 1858
Children by each former marriage Groom-
Children by each former marriage Bride - 1 living 3 dead
Birth Place Groom - Liverpool England
Birth Place Bride - London
Rank or Profession Groom - Fisherman
Rank or Profession Bride -
Age Groom - 42
Age Bride - 41
Residence Present Groom - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Residence Usual Groom - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Residence Present Bride - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Residence Usual Bride - Little Ryrie St Geelong
Parents Names Grooms Father - William Edwards
Parents Names Grooms Mother includes maiden name - Sarah Walker
Parents Names Bride Father - John Dillon
Parents Names Bride Mother includes maiden name - Catherine Kelly
Fathers Rank or Profession Groom - Joiner
Fathers Rank or Profession Bride - Sugar Baker
Married by - James Duncan
Married at Registrar of Marriages Office at Geelong
Marriage solemnised according to the rites of - Schedule B
Groom signature present - yes
Brides signature present - yes
Witness 1 - Mary Bowells
Witness 2 - unable to read
The First Marriage for Mary Ann Dillon was in England
Transcription of Marriage certificate of Mary Ann Dillon & Thomas Henry Dutton
Citation:- General Register Office, England, Marriage Certificate Thomas Henry Dutton & Mary Ann Dillon (Quarter 1 Year 1848 Vol 2 Page 173)
1848 Marriage solemnized at the Parish church in the Parish of St Giles with Cripplegate in the city of London
When Married - Feb 22
Name and Surname Groom - Thomas Henry Dutton
Name and Surname Bride - Mary Ann Dillon
Age Groom - Full
Age Bride - Full
Condition Groom - Drover
Condition Bride -
Residence at the Time of Marriage Groom - 17 Green Hills Rents
Residence at the Time of Marriage Bride - White Cross St
Father's name and surname Groom - William Dutton
Father's name and surname Bride - John Dillon
Rank or Profession Father Groom - White Smith
Rank or Profession Father Bride - Sugar Baker
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by banns by m? H.B. Foster
This Marriage was solemnized between us Thomas Henry Dutton X Mary A Dillon in the presence of us James Barttam X Mary Barttam
Post Edited and Updated 28/12/2015
Comments
asheppard on 2015-12-27 19:50:29Looks like you have the marriage details already
Marriages Mar 1848
Dillon Mary Ann East London 2 173
Dutton Thomas Henry East London 2 173
Daughter Catherines Baptism
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Catherine Elizabeth Dutton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1851
Father's name: Thomas Henry Dutton
Mother's name: Mary Ann Dutton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St James
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers
Notation: Born 16 Nov 1851
Fathers Occ: listed as Drover
There is a Thom Dutton departing Vic for Launceston Dec 1854
Victoria, Australia, Outward Passenger Index, 1852-1915
Name: Thom Dutton
Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 26
Departure Date: Dec 1854
Departure Place: Victoria, Australia
Destination: Launceston
Ship: BLACK SWAN I
Ship's Master: WOODS A
Page: 2
prov.vic.gov.au
kerbent on 2015-12-28 00:09:28Thankyou Smith41 & Asheppard for your responses,
They have helped me to look at the data with new eyes. I just hope I’m not barking up the wrong tree. I am pretty sure that both marriages involve the same Mary Ann Dillon, as her father is consistent on both marriage documents - John Dillon, sugar Baker. I have updated the above article to include a transcription of the first marriage certificate as formatting is not allowed in the comments which makes the transcription difficult to read.
According to their Australian born daughter’s birth certificate, Kate (known in later life as Catherine) her father Thomas Dutton was a soldier. However this is probably unlikely particularly, as the informant was a friend who gave the information and seemed unsure about the father and stated that his age “about 35 years London”
Perhaps the couple came out to Australia after losing some of their children, in the hope of better times.
On Mary Ann’s second marriage certificate it states that she lost 3 children I am wondering if one of those children was that Catherine Elizabeth Dutton you found in the English Parish registers In Clerkenwell St James?
If Thomas was working as a Drover in Australia he may have been away a lot working, that’s if he wasn’t chasing gold or similar and may have died away. On Catherine’s state ward papers it says that in 1868 “Father’s whereabouts unknown” (VPRS 4527/P0002/Book 2/page 683) so something must have happened to allow Mary Ann to go ahead and marry John Edwards that same year.
Progress is slow but I think I may have moved ever so slightly forward!