MIDDLEMISS From Perthshire, Scotland
TracySW
I am trying to find information on High Middlemiss 1814 (or Middlemas) who was married to Jane Fleming 1816. They immigrated to Australia in 1839 on the ship Davis Clarke from Perth Scotland.
His parents were John Middlemiss and Jean Cameron.
Jane (who I am particulary interested in) parents were Alexander Fleming and Margaret Stuart.
My ancestor Mary Beaton b.1821 in Scotland whose father Robert Thomson (occupation - Accoutrement Maker of 17 Dacre Street Westminster, (on Mary's 1841 marriage record Mary was formerly from same address as her father- Robert was a Saddler on Mary's death record).
The mother on Mary's death record was Ellen Fleming, (Ellen may have been her pet name as I cannot find any records of Robert & Ellen marrying) I cannot find any information on these two. Mary's shipping records and death record states she was born in Edinburgh.
Its a long shot but I am trying to find whether Ellen Fleming and Jane Fleming are related in any way as Jane and my ancestor Mary were close friends in Australia. My great great great grandparents William Beaton b.1820 and Mary (Thomson) named one of their sons Hugh Middlemiss Beaton b.1858
I have searched and searched and run out of resources. Anyone who can help with information would be appreciated.
Cheers Tracy
by TracySW
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Comments
SilverVixen on 2012-03-25 06:28:38I assume you have tried Scotlands People
scotlandspeople.gov.uk
asheppard on 2012-03-25 20:40:07There is a possibility that the name Ellen Fleming on the death certificate may not be correct as the information is only what details the informant knows about the person and is not always correct.
Have you found the birth record for Mary Thomson on Scotland's People, there is one listed for 1817 with father Robert and mother "Helen". Helen is often changed to Ellen.
There are also eight marriages listed for Robert Thomson to Helen ? between 1800 and 1821, so it could possibly be one of these - unfortunately you will require Credits to view the information
Fleming and Thomson are very common names there could be a family connection but you would have to find more details on Jane and compare the information.
Good luck on your hunt.
asheppard on 2012-03-25 20:44:51There is a marriage between Hugh Middlemiss/mass and Jane Fleming in 1839 in Perthshire listed on Scotland's People.
TracySW on 2012-04-13 06:01:22I have marriage details for Hugh and Jane, I also have their parents.
However, using the process of elimination I have after many years of looking finally found Mary's birth record and the parents names on her birth entry are Robert Thomson (saddler) and Jane Allan
I thought one possibility for the name on the death record could be that Robert may have remarried an Ellen Fleming and the informant assumed she was the mother
another possibility could be that Roberts pet name for Jane was "Allan" not Ellen and she may have remarried a Fleming. I have know of couples who call themselves by their surnames.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.