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NORGROVE of England

Query by asheppard

I've hit a brick wall with this person

What I know about him

Name: John Corban NORGROVE (Reverend)

Born: abt 1794 Birmingham Warwickshire

Married: 19 Aug 1823, Temple Bristol Gloucestershire (need further info)

Death: between 1851 & 1856 where unknown

Occupation: Baptist Minister

1833 - Yate Wiltshire England - "In receipt of rents of freehold land belonging to the Baptist Church of Chipping Sodbury of which I am a Minister"

17 Apr 1838 - Chideock Bridport - From a Copy of a flyer "Bridport Baptists". On Easter Tuesday next. A sermon on Baptism, will be preached at the Chideock Chapel; when several people will be baptised. In the afternoon at Bridport Town Hall, an address on the "Nature of a Gospel Church" at which time A Baptist Church will be formed. The Rev, A Wayland, of Lyme; Rev. T Clark, of Chard; J. C. Norgrove, of Bridport and Chideock; and other ministers are expected to take part in the Services.
Details on the the bottom of the flyer read "J C Norgrove's Friendly address to the inhabitants of Bridport and Chideock, Price 2d may be had of Mr. Brown, Bookseller Bridport.

12 May 1849 - Newark, Nottinghamshire, England - Independent Chapel - Performed 2 marriages
7 Oct 1849 - Newark, Nottinghamshire, England - Indepedent Chapel - Sermon in place of Rev Adams who was ill.

1851 Census
Lower Mills, Stonehouse Gloucester with Smith family

Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Smith 56 Cloth Cutter
Mary Smith 60
George S Smith 14
Henry V Smith 11
**John C Norgrove 57, Visitor, Occ; Baptist Minister, Married

3 May 1856 - Duddeston Warwickshire listed as deceased on son Theophilus' nmarriage.


Details I would like to find

1. Details of his Birth & Parents names if possible

2. Marriage - I have the England & Wales Marriages 1538-1940 listing, but nothing further.

3. 1841 Census entry, searched but can't find him anywhere, maybe someone else will have better luck.

I have wife Sarah and children in 1841 living in St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire, England
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Norgrove 45
Hulhen Norgrove 14
Theophilas Norgrove 12
Abielohim Norgrove 10


2. Where & When he died


I have further detail on the later Census and the whereabouts of John & Sarah's children and Sarah's death, I have one exception of son John.

John b1832 baptised 29 July 1832 - by Mr Shakespeare - Non Conformist Register Gloucester Parish records but I can find nothing further, no death.

I also have the details of the children from the Gloucestershire Archives listing the dates of birth, baptisms and the early deaths.

The puzzling thing is that I have their first three children born before the 1823 marriage which seems odd for a Minister so is the John Norgrove Sarah Eddels 1823 my marriage or is there another John & Sarah Norgrove



any help would be greatly appreciated

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on 2013-12-07 02:44:19

asheppard , from Queensland Australia, has been a Family Tree Circles member since Nov 2010. is researching the following names: NORGROVE, BAIRD, TOAL and 43 other(s).

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by noggin on 2013-12-07 11:24:04

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: Hulhen Amuna Norgrove
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1846
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Place: Edgbaston, St Bartholomew, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Joseph Crippin
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Marriage Age: Full Age
Father: John Norgrove (occ shown as baptist minister)
Reference Number: DRO 53
Archive Roll: M145

by noggin on 2013-12-07 11:37:19

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Morgrove [mistranscribed reads Sarah Norgrove]
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Where born: Kingswerton, Gloucestershire, England
[Kingsweston, Gloucestershire, England]
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7, Jennens Row, Birmingham
Occupation: School mistress
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 12

Sarah Morgrove 59 School Mistress b Kings Weston, Gloucestershire
Joseph Corban Morgrove 28 Draper b Bristol, Gloucestershire
Hannah Beulah Morgrove 26 Governess b Madeley, Herefordshire
Helen Amana Morgrove 24 Governess Madeley, Herefordshire
Theophilus Morgrove 26 Ironfounders Clerk b Todbere, Gloucestershire
Abe Elshire Amelia Morgrove 20 Governess b Todbere, Gloucestershire

Who were the first three children you refer to born prior to 1823?

by asheppard on 2013-12-07 22:38:54

Thanks noggin, I have all the census and information on the children of John & Sarah. With the exception of son John b1832

I need the info on John Corban Norgrove the baptist minister b1794, 1841 census would be magic, as I have 1851, I don't have his death, can't find it anywhere, it was between 1851 Census and 1856, on his son Theo's marriage 1856 it says he is deceased.

by noggin on 2013-12-08 06:04:32

Have you tried this site, I would have thought they would have records of their ministers.

http://www.baptist.org.uk/

by asheppard on 2013-12-08 17:12:58

Thanks

I haven't tried that one, I'll give it a go see what happens.

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