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Extract from the "Western Champion" Monday, February 25, 1929

OBITUARY of MR WILLIAM MCCARRON, Senr.

It is with regret we (says the Peak Hill "Express") have to announce the death of Mr. William McCarron Senr., of Mingelo Street, an old and esteemed resident, which took place on Tuesday last at the ripe age of 90. Deceased, who had been ailing for some time, had been confined to his bed since the first week in December, the immediate cause of death being senile decay. The late Mr. McCarron was a native of Tyrone, north of Ireland, and arrived in Australia about 27 years age, taking up his residence in Kyneton, Victoria, where he followed his trade as a blacksmith. Subsequently he proceeded to the famous Shepparton district of which he and his brothers were the early pioneers, and entered into farming pursuits, later going to Numurkah. In 1905 he sold out and came to Tocumwal, in New South Wales, where together with his sons, he engaged in chaffcutting for seven years with much success. In 1912 the late Mr. McCarron purchased farming property in Mungery, and resided there until 1921, when he retired and came to reside in town, his son, Mr. R. McCarron, taking over the farm and is still in possession. Deceased was very well-known throughout the district, and deservedly bore a reputation for unsullied integrity, and his death is generally regretted. His two brothers, Hugh and John, predeceased him. He is surved by his widow, two daughters, Mrs. C.P. Nissen (Oxley, Vic.), Miss McCarron (Peak Hill), and three sons, Robert (Mungery), W.J. (Barrellan), and J.D. (Narromine), for whom sympathy will be expressed in their bereavement. The funeral took place on Wednesday afternoon in the Presbyterian portion of the Peak Hill Cemetery, The Rev. H.S. Bunn, conducting the service.

The late Mr. McCarron, who was married to Miss Eliza Denner, of Victoria, in 1878, celebrated their golden wedding last July.



{Information provided to me by L.Kirk a MCCARRON researcher through our mutual DENNER ancestry}.


NEWLY ADDED.....
PHOTOGRAPH below of William & Elizabeth MCCARRON. Elizabeth would have been a great aunty of my paternal grandmother.

Charles ICK was born 1867 (Reg.No.22542) Kyneton, Victoria, Australia to parents: Thomas ICK* born 1826 Bockelton, Worcestershire, England, died 1895 Harramous, Victoria, Australia; and Agnes Margaret Eliza TOLMIE born 1835 Petty, Inverness-shire, Scotland.

*Note: The IGI at FamilySearch has Thomas ICK born 1800 Inverness, Scotland! And as some of this information appears to have come from a 'family bible' I'm inclined to go by it than the IGI in this particular instance.

More information on Thomas ICK - gentleman, christened 16/7/1826 Bockelton. Sailed on "Invincible". Captain Henry Johnson 5/6/1884 268, 24/8/1854 Melbourne 80days, 400 Gold sovereigns in safe, family bible 1853 Bacleton Worcesteshire, June 5 1853. Source: Daisy Harrington.

Marriage 1 Agnes Margaret Eliza TOLMIE b: 1835
Married: 1858.

Issue 11 children:-

1.Thomas William ICK b: 1859 in Kynetnon (15114)

2.James ICK b: 1860 in Kyneton (21112)

3.Agnes Strother ICK b: 1862 in Woodend (Kynenton 15228)

4.Joseph ICK b: 1864 in Boggy Ck (3120) (Kyneton ?)
married 188 Victoria to Barbara STEVENSON (AFN: 1T40-J7C). Barbara was the daughter of James STEVENSON of Muthill, Perthshire, Scotland 1828-1915 and Barbara BREMNER of Montrose, Angus, Scotland 1830-1892.
5 children: Ruby Agnes, Thomas Charles, Margaret Rosetta, Alma Violet and (living) ICK all born Karramomus, Victoria, Australia.

5.John ICK b: 1865 in Laur. (9361)

6.Charles ICK b: 1867 in Kyneton (22542)

7.Jane Perry Paddock ICK b: 1869 in Kyneton (23022)

8.Robert ICK b: 1872 Heathcote VIC (23773)

9.Mary Maria ICK b: 1875 Heathcote (2967)

10.Grace Elizabeth ICK b: 01 01 1877 Heathcote (3098)

11.Francis Tolmie ICK b: 12 02 1879 Heathcote (3294)

Sources:
Rootsweb Family Tree of Anthony Ick

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Charles ICK married in 1898 Victoria, Australia to Hannah (Anna) PETHYBRIDGE born 1871 Arcacia, Victoria, Australia to parents: Richard PETHYBRIDGE born 1832 Mortonhampstead, Newton Abbot, Devon, England and Lavinia DENNER~~ born 1843 Cornwall or Devonshire, England - both emigrants to Australia.

Charles & Hannah ICK had four known children:-

1.Leslie Richard Thomas ICK born 1901 Karramous South, Victoria, Aust.
married Hannah - 4 children.
2.Vera Agnes Lavinia ICK born 1903 Karramous South, Victoria, Aust., died 1930. Married Clyde Wellington LEWIS 1899-1964 - 6 children.
3.Keith Stanley Charles ICK born 1905 Karramous South, Victoria, Aust
married Bessie.
4.Roy Sperry Tolmie ICK born 1908 Shepparton, Victoria, Aust. died 1986, married Elsie May WALKER 1905-1962. She was the daughter of Percy WALKER and Jean AMOUR.

Notes:

~~ The DENNERs were my ancestors, and I presently have the line going back to c1790 Devon. Also known as DINNER.


Any connections, please write to me. Thank you, Alison.

Dear Members, Is anyone researching these families in Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire, England?


SEAR/BRYANT Census data retrieved


1841 HO107/44/10/7/10
West End, Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire
Thomas Roads, 25, Ag Lab, yes
Kitty Roads, 25, yes {My GGG Grandmother}
Anne Roads, 1, yes
Mary Sear, 71, Ind, yes

Interestingly, 2 households further up the page:

North End, Steeple Claydon
Mary Sear, 70, yes
Joseph Sear, 25, carpenter, yes


Three (double) pages further on is the oldest Bryant in living in Steeple Claydon:

1841 HO107/44/10/11/16
West End, Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire
Hannah Bryant, 50, lace m, no
Sarah Bryant, 17, yes

In Steeple Claydon there is a Joseph Bryant, 25, with Clements, 25, and six children.
Also a William Bryant, 40, with Susannah, 30, and Richard, 10

... and that covers all the Bryants living there.



1841 HO107/44/10/6/7
North End, Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire
William Sear, 70, Ag Lab, yes
Anne Sear, 65, yes
(next household, same house)
John Sear, 40, Ag Lab, yes
Charlott Sear, 35, yes
Thomas Sear, 8, yes


1841 HO107/44/10/20/34
Church End, Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire
Hannah Sear, 40, lace m, no
Mary Sear, 15, lace m, yes
Elizabeth Sear, 14, lace m, yes
Eliza Sear, 12, lace m, yes
Solomon Sear, 9, yes
Martin Sear, 6, yes
Eli Sear, 2, yes



1841 HO107/44/10/6/6
North End, Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire
Thomas Lines, 45, ? yes (occupation Army Pensioner)
Leah Lines, 45, yes
(next household?)
Leah Sear, 13, yes



Note, there were 849 people living in Steeple Claydon in 1841.



Found another Sear b. 1780s:

1851 HO107/1724/340/13
North End, Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire
Rachel Sear, head, wid, 65? lacemaker, b. Steeple Claydon
Joseph Sear, son, unmar, 37, ag lab, b. Steeple Claydon
Henry Sear, son, mar, 36, carpenter, b. Steeple Claydon
Elizabeth Sear, wife, mar, 3? lacemaker, b. Adstock
(next page)
John Sear, son, 4, scholar, b. Steeple Claydon
Mary Sear, dau, 4, b. Steeple Claydon

Dear Members, Looking for connections with this family. Jack was the brother of my ancestor, Louisa MOST.

John MOST known as 'Jack' b.1874 Inverell NSW was the son of Henry MOST b.1824 Hesse, Germany and Henrietta SCHIA or BRAGIER or BROSER b.1837 Germany, they emigrated to Australia separately and ended up marrying.

John married (Reg.No. 7334/1906) Inverell NSW to Una Bell BEARD b.1887
Warialda NSW (also known as Younerbell). Una was one of 10 children born to James BEARD b.1843 Linton, Cambridgeshire, England and Sarah ROLLINGS who was possibly an Aussie.

It seems that John & Una MOST had three children, I had always only known about the two girls, and I just found one little baby recently, that died young:-

1.Maude L. MOST born 1907 Inverell NSW Australia
possibly married someone with a surname QUICK.

2.Henry MOST 1909~1909 Queensland, Australia. Queensland Historical Index Search of Births, Deaths and Marriages 1829-1914

3.May MOST born after 1918 possibly NSW or QLD.

Below is a lovely photograph in my possesion of Una Bell MOST nee BEARD with her two daughters, May and Maude.

More details are available on the MOST and BEARD families upon request.

Al in QLD Australia.

Top of the family tree so far:-

William John BALDOCK born possibly 1820 Quirindi verification required
married about 1839 to Sarah UNKNOWN
Issue: 2 children - William & Charlotte

1.William BALDOCK, died 1878 Forbes
married about 1855 to Catherine (Kate) UNKNOWN, died 1894 Forbes
Issue: 9 children

1 Joseph BALDOCK possibly born before registration, died 1904
2 Charles W. BALDOCK born 1856 Forbes, died 1871 Forbes
3 James H. BALDOCK born 1857 Forbes, died 1920 Parramatta
married Kate or Teresa SHEEDY in 1885
4 Alice Jane BALDOCK born 1864 Forbes, died 1939 Forbes
married William P WEST in 1891 at Forbes
Issue: 7 children; Horace 1892; Margaret 1894; Olga 1895;
Hedley 1896; Catherine 1897; Dorothy 1898 *; Major 1905.
5 Nathan Daniel BALDOCK born 1866 Forbes, died 1960 Forbes
married Henrietta S. SMYTH in 1902 at Condobolin
1 known child: Reginald W. BALDOCK born 1903 Forbes
6 Sarah E. BALDOCK born 1868 Forbes
married 1887 at Canterbury to John JONES
(3 kids George, Jane & Emily)
7 Charlotte Margaret BALDOCK born 1870 Forbes
8 Arthur A. BALDOCK born 1872 Forbes, died 1924 Granville
9 Amy Selina BALDOCK born 1874 Forbes
married Albert E. STEWART in 1930 at West Maitland



2.Charlotte BALDOCK born either 1843/1844 NSW
married in 1857 to 005 Jonathan PUTTICK or PATRICK at Sydney NSW
Can't find any children in NSW.

* Dorothy WEST married 1925 Frederick Charles AMOR.

Regards,
Al in QLD Australia.

Dear Members, for those interested parties, with the help of a great many researchers, we have managed to link up significant family tree data from England and Australia. The main ancestral line I am speaking of is AMOR, but the tree also includes these surnames:-

Time period - 1500s to 1700s : Location - England mostly Wiltshire, areas covered Bromham, Bremhill, Southbroom, Lacock, Melksham, Broomham, and Bishops Canning. Also Horsley in Gloucestershire.

BROWN
DIKE
SPREDBOROUGH
GATON
GREY
PIERCE
BAILY
HUMPHRIES
WEBB
KING
MOODY
FENNELL
STANTON
TYLEE
AKERMAN
WILKINS
LESTER
ARCHARD
HUDD

Time period - 1700s - 1900s : Location - England mostly Wiltshire

KNEE
SEAGER
STEWART

and lots of other surnames...

Which brings us to my current tree 1830s to the present day in Australia, with descendants in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria.

All surnames will have an AMOR connection. If you wish to contact me, please leave a message. I have my family tree on Genesreunited which is a pay to use membership but names can be freely searched.

Regards, Al in QLD.

I'm looking for any details on this Irish ancestor - Kieran also known as Ciaran CANTWELL born C1894 in either Laois (Kings) or Offaly (Queens) County. Father's name was Thomas CANTWELL and mother's name unknown unknown.

Extra information: Kieran Cantwell worked as a Blacksmith. He died young - aged only 32 years (died 1926). Several searches have been carried out in Dublin (by post) for his birth certificate but they could not find it. They would carry out a search for 5 years, and if they found nothing more money would be spent on the next 5 year search, but to no avail.

Rahan appears to be the ancestral home of this branch of Cantwells. Many graveyards have been searched in the general area, but unfortunately Rahan was not searched as this information was unknown at the time.

I thought I'd have more luck getting a helpful soul to check Parish Registers (if there is such a thing - sorry I'm an Aussie), as the family were most probably Roman Catholic.

Thanking everyone that reads this, cheerio ... Allycat.

I'm looking for any possible connections to my husband's family. I have located a marriage between a Pakeha and a Maori woman, Richard MARRINER married Hatariti on the 3rd of September 1856 at Rawene, New Zealand. No surname is known for Hatariti.

Dear FamilyTreeCircle Members, Hi. I'm looking for any connections with these families:-

DENNER/DINNER

Richard DENNER (my 4g grandfather) was born abt 1790 England (probably Cornwall) occupation Labourer 1841 Census, married unknown unknown. Had at least one child that I can find at present, James DINNER^ also known as James DENNER (my 3g grandfather) born 1818 Newton Abbot, Devon, England.

^ PANDORA - Australia's Web Archive Click on BROWSE ALPHABETIC LIST, then SELECT THE LETTER OF THE SURNAME YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

Information from this website is listed as under in italics:-

"FIRST FAMILIES 2001

First Family Member Details
Surname: DENNER
Given Name(s): James
Occupation(s): Steam engine maintenance

Birth Details
Birth County,
Region, Province: Devon
Birth Country: England

Death Details
Death Town: Kialla West
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1898

Immigration Details
Air/Port Landed: Adelaide
Ship/Plane: Canton
Year Arrived: 1846

Canton 1846 from London 27 - 04 1846 via Plymouth, Captain Daniel Friend, arrived Port Adelaide on 31-07-1846

Bound for South Australia



Surname: PYNE
Given Name(s): Mary Ann

Birth Details
Birth County,
Region, Province: Cornwall
Birth Country: England

Death Details
Death Town: Kialla West
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1896

Immigration Details
Air/Port Landed: Adelaide
Ship/Plane: Canton
Year Arrived: 1846


Family Stories

Life in Australia:

James & Mary Ann came to South Australia with others from Cornwall in answer to the call for men who were accustomed to working deep lead mines. James was not a miner: he maintained/worked the steam engines, but soon after coming to Australia he was listed as a farm labourer. When gold was discovered in Victoria the family came to the Daylesford area; James was known to work a dredge at one stage, then had a farm. When eldest daughter Lavina married, the family settled on a neighbouring farm at Kialla West, where Eliza married another's neighbour's son, William McCarron, to become my grandmother.

You and Your Family:

Our story is told under the name of McCARRON

Life Before Australia:

Nothing concrete is known of the life of James and Mary Ann in England. James could not read and write, so there are no letters, but the family "legend" says the Denners came as Hugenots from Alsace to Somerset, then to Devon. This is denied by the Hugenot Society in England, which says no refugees came to England from there! The family legend continues that James, as a boy of 16, went to Cornwall to learn to work the steam engines. There he married Mary Ann Pyne,obviously,but no documents can be found. His death certificate lists two children born in Cornwall (just the county given) and apparently Richard died, because only Lavina was with them when they landed in Adelaide in 1846. We do not have a location for them in either Devon or Cornwall. James's death certificate says his father was Richard Denner, bootmaker, but he does not appear in any list we have found so far.

Descendants


Children
DALDY, Emily DENNER, Charles DENNER, Elizabeth
DENNER, Henry DENNER, James DENNER, Richard
DENNER, William MCCARRON, Eliza PETHYBRIDGE, Lavina

NB: Superscript behind each descendant name represents the lineage number of that descendant.
This family information was last updated by LILIAN BEATRICE KIRK on the 23 December, 2000. "


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Building on the above information, this is my research as follows:-

James DINNER married 4 April 1841 Stoke Climsland, Cornwall (died 1898 Euroa% VIC Australia) to Mary Ann PINE born 17 Dec 1820, South Hill, Cornwall (died 1896 Euroa VIC Australia). Mary Ann PINE was the daughter of Richard PINE and Elizabeth CRUSE. (Elizabeth CRUSE had first married George JANE 1759-1808). Mary Ann PINE had two known elder siblings, Elizabeth PINE born 1811, and Henry PINE born 1814 all born South Hill, Cornwall.

James DENNER died aged 79years, 28 March 1898 Euroa VIC Australia. He is buried at the Kialla Cemetery. His wife Mary Ann died aged 76years, 25 Dec 1896 also at Euroa. I haven't found a burial location as yet.

% Historical Fact: Euroa was where famous Bushranger Ned Kelly and his gang stuck up the local bank.

James & Mary Ann DINNER had 9 children. First 2 children born England, last 7 born Australia. Family settled Adelaide, South Australia; various parts of Victoria and New South Wales.

1.Richard DINNER chr. 5 Dec 1841 Stoke Climsland, died 1844 Eng.
2.Lavina DENNER born 1843 unknown, England
married 1860 at Tara VIC to Richard PETHYBRIDGE, issue...
James and Mary Denner, and child (Lavina) arrived in Adelaide SA from Plymouth 31.7.1846 aboard the ship "Canton", the journey taking some 3 months.
3.James DENNER born 1847 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1875 Christina LAW. They had two children.
1)James 1876-1952
2)Henry Thomas 1878-1953 married Emma LANGTON
4.Henry DENNER born 1849 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1874 VIC to Charlotte Sally DIXON, issue 9 children.
1)Sarah Kate DENNER married Albert PROWD @ (probable relations)
2)Thomas Charles DENNER ...died young
3)Mary Ann DENNER married Walter WALKER
4)Charlott Fleming DENNER ...died young
5)William Henry DENNER married Elizabeth PROWD @
6)Harry James DENNER married Elizabeth ONELY
7)Charlotte Emily DENNER married John PASS
8)Richard John DENNER ...died young
9)Lillian Maud DENNER married William HARVEY
5.Elizabeth DENNER born 1850 Adelaide, South Australia
married 1878 VIC William MCCARRON issue...
6.Eliza B. DINNER born 3 Dec 1856, Back Ck, Bourke, Victoria, Australia *
7.William DUINER (sic) born 1860 Tara, Victoria, Australia
8.Emily DINNER born 1862 Malm, Victoria, Australia
married 1882 Kialla West VIC to Vincent DALDY, died 1884 in childbirth, had daughter named Emily who died young before her 3rd birthday 1884-1887.
9.Charles DENNER born 1864 VIC, died Condobalin NSW

* gg grandmother, married John Henry PARKER

PARKER/DINNER

John Henry PARKER born abt 1850, Australia married 8 Oct 1877 at Grenfell, New South Wales to Eliza B. DINNER. I've only been able to find seven children, but my grandmother, who is 93 yrs old, tells me there were more!

1.Susan Jane PARKER born 1878 Grenfell NSW Australia (10368/1878)
2.Esther PARKER born 1879 Grenfell NSW Australia (11133/1879)
3.Caroline PARKER ** born 3 Aug 1883 Grenfell NSW Australia
4.Ellen E. PARKER born 1887 Grenfell NSW Australia (22194/1887)
5.John H. PARKER born 1890 Grenfell NSW Australia (15133/1890)
6.Phebe A. PARKER born 1892 Grenfell NSW Australia (15481/1892)
7.Violet M. PARKER born 1895 Grenfell NSW Australia (3737/1895)

** g grandmother, married Henry AMOR

PHOTOGRAPH is of my grandmother's parents...Henry AMOR & Caroline PARKER. If the photo looks a little odd it is because it was restored. Pic was in dreadful condition and was exceedingly small in size. It lay in my grandmother's drawers unknown to myself, the firstborn grandchild (and family historian), until an appearance just recently. With the wonders of modern technology, a fireplace was inserted in the background and pretty flowers added to the mantle. And Great Gran was given a new dress and body! It's kind of like breathing new life into one's ancestors.

Caroline PARKER married 4 Jul 1904 to Henry AMOR born 1876 Rochester VIC Australia. He was the son of William AMOR and Ann Priscilla WHEELER of Wiltshire, England. Henry & Caroline AMOR had five children, of whom four have now passed on, leaving my grandmother the last of her generation.

Regards, Alison
QLD Australia.

Looking for ancestors/descendants of the following:-

Thomas DOWDSWELL born abt 1778 probably Gloucestershire England
married 24th November 1803 at St Mary De Lode Gloucestershire England to Ann HEWLETT. The couple had three known children: 1.Thomas DOWDSWELL christened 24th November 1803 St Mary De Lode Gloucestershire died 1804, 2.Ann DOWDSELL (sic) christened 25th December 1804 Stroud Gloucestershire, and 3.Thomas DOWDSWELL born 1806 Gloucestershire.

Not much is known about the other two siblings, but Ann DOWDSELL married 17th October 1825 at St Mary De Lode Gloucestershire to George DAVIS christened 12th June 1796 St John the Baptist, Gloucester City, died 19th December 1884 Barton St Mary, South Hamlet, Gloucestershire.

George & Ann DAVIS had 10 children:
1.Harriet DAVIS b 1827
2.George DAVIS born 1828
3.James DAVIS born 1830
4.Ann DAVIS born 1832
5.Ellen DAVIS born 1833
6.William DAVIS born 1835
7.Jane DAVIS born 1837
8.Wiliam DAVIS born 1839
9.Alfred DAVIS born 1842
10.Hannah DAVIS (ancestor) born 23/5/1847 Barton St Mary, chr 13/6/1847 St James

Hannah DAVIS emigrated to Australia, entry details unknown at this stage. She married Charles Robert JACKSON who was born 14/6/1842 Stockport, Cheshire. They had at least one known daughter, Esther JACKSON born 23/8/1869 Majorca, Victoria, Australia. Hannah JACKSON nee DAVIS died 16/11/1928 Warragul, Victoria and Charles JACKSON died 6/7/1917 Warragul, Victoria, Australia.

Their daughter, Esther JACKSON married 18/12/1888 at San Remo, Victoria to Frederick William AMOR born 1868 NSW. [More info available].

Are there any connections out there?

Allycat.