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Aitchison OLIVER born abt 1808 in Belfast, Northern Ireland, died 21 JUL 1894 in Brookby, Auckland, New Zealand, buried Panmure, Auckland, New Zealand, married 26 Jan 1834 Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland (1) Janet MCKAY born abt 1812 in Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Three children of Aitchison OLIVER and Janet MCKAY:-

1. Elizabeth OLIVER born 13 May 1840 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
2. Janet OLIVER born abt 1836 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
3. Aitchison OLIVER born 1 Apr 1834 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Married (2) 9 Aug 1840 Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland to Jane RICE

Eight children of Aitchison OLIVER and 2nd wife Jane RICE:-

1. William OLIVER born 1841/1842 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland died bef 1926
2. Francis OLIVER born 18 Feb 1843 in Auckland, New Zealand died 25 Sep 1926 Auckland, New Zealand
3. James OLIVER born 21 Nov 1844 in Auckland, New Zealand
4. Robert OLIVER born 17 Jul 1846 in Auckland, New Zealand
5. Agnes OLIVER born 28 Feb 1848 in Auckland, New Zealand died 12 Oct 1935 Onehunga, Auckland, New Zealand, buried Waikaraka, Auckland, New Zealand
6. John Henry OLIVER born 10 Mar 1858 in Turanga Creek, Auckland, New Zealand died 22 Aug 1943 Ponsonby, Auckland, New Zealand, buried Te Awamutu Cemetery, Waipa, New Zealand.
Married 1896 at Napier, New Zealand Folio #3498 bride Ellena LYONS*** born 3 Oct 1871 Pukekohe East, New Zealand died 7 Apr 1935 Matariki Private Hospital, Te Awamutu, New Zealand buried 8 Apr 1935 Lot 227, Te Awamutu Cemetery, Waikato, New Zealand. She was the daughter of John Newman LYONS and Anastasia FLEMING.
6 Children:-
i) Achison OLIVER born either 1899/1900 New Zealand, no death date
ii) Lawrence OLIVER born 28 Dec 1901 married Evelyn RAINE
iii) Lillian OLIVER born 28 Dec 1904 NZ died 1979 NZ married 31 Dec 1940 NZ to Edward Elijah HANCOCK born abt 1904 died 1968 Auckland NZ
iv) Frederick John OLIVER born Jul 1906, no death date married Eileen O'NEIL
v) Raymond OLIVER born Dec 1908, no death date married Amy WEAL
vi) Arthur OLIVER born 1910 NZ married Una Elizabeth MASON
7. Mary OLIVER born 8 May 1850 in Auckland, New Zealand died 2 Oct 1942 Sandringham, Auckland, New Zealand buried 5 Oct 1942 Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland, New Zealand
8. Margaret OLIVER born 5 Aug 1861 in Auckland, New Zealand died 1 Jun 1941 Papatoetoe, New Zealand

Q.Can anyone find death details on Jane OLIVER nee RICE?
Q.Can anyone provide spousal names, year and folio number for above children? And/or provide burial data, probate records, electoral roll information etc. otherwise not yet known to me?

Thanks in advance,
Alison.
***LYONS researcher.

Married 1928 New Zealand, Folio #00373.

BRIDE:

Agnes Anderson (Nan) EADIE born 19/06/1907 Scotland, emigrated with parents Andrew EADIE and Mary Jane COULTER to NZ in 1926 although I have no record of this, was cremated 5 Apr 1965 Purewa. Last residence: 6 Jellicoe Ave, Mt. Roskill, Auckland.

GROOM:

William Robert SAUNDERS no birth details, parents names not known, cremated 1 Sep 1965 Purewa. Last residence: 89 Atkin Avenue, Mission Bay, Auckland. The couple had a daughter Mavis SAUNDERS who might still be living.

Q.Can anyone find death details?
Q.Any other details?
Q.Can anyone find record of emigration to New Zealand 1926 by bride's parents: Andrew EADIE (or TODD!?!) and Mary Jane nee COULTER with their children: Mary, Margaret, Jean, Agnes, Robina, Georgina, Martha, James, Helen, Andrew and Jessie?

Thanks, Alison.
EADIE researcher.

In researching the EADIE# ancestors and their descendants/connections in my tree, I have:-

Donald Wilson MCISAAC born abt 1873 died 1928 New Zealand. He married in 1901 NZ to Lily WADEY, she died 1964 NZ.

The couple had four children that I can find on the NZ Historical BDMs online:-

1. Vera Lilian MCISAAC born 13 Jul 1902 NZ, died 1991 NZ
married 1925 NZ Frank Semple JOHNSON born 1 Jan 1902 NZ died 1987 NZ. Frank was the son of George Semple JOHNSON and Alice Katherine SCHENKEL. His siblings names were: Myra (married Thomas GULLERY), Stanley (married Janet JACKSON), Leonard (married 1 Myrtle RUTHERFORD and 2) Alice Mary Phoebe WAIDE) and Eric (who probably married Dorothy Frances MAFEKING).

2. Juanita Muriel MCISAAC born 1903 NZ
married 1927 NZ James Samuel SULLIVAN born 27 Jan 1905 NZ died 1982 NZ

3. Gordon Coleman MCISAAC born 20 Nov 1904 NZ died 1972 NZ cremated Purewa married 1928 NZ Robina Coulter EADIE# (known to family as Ruby) born 8 Feb 1909 Harhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland died 1987 NZ, cremated Purewa. The EADIE family emigrated to New Zealand in 1926. Ruby was my late mother in law's (Mary Coulter Eadie HUGHES 1912~2008) aunt.

4. Noel Charles MCISAAC born 14 Jul 1908 NZ died 1984 NZ.
Can only search for marriages up to 1929.


MCISAAC burials that I haven't found connections with my tree as yet:-

Eliza Carlisle McISAAC buried Purewa 1959
George Harold McISAAC buried Purewa 1966
Keith Robert McISAAC cremated Purewa 1974
Leila Mavis McISAAC cremated Purewa 1962
Marjorie Dulcie Robertina McISAAC cremated Purewa 1986
Richard Harold McISAAC cremated Purewa aged 66 yrs

Regards,
Alison
(EADIE researcher).

Herbert William MAXFIELD born 1886 (birth location unknown, death/burial unknown), Probate Record Carpenter, Tauranga, will filed 1928. I have found an entry that has a MAXFIELD Herbert William, 23 Nov 1941, Death, Western Desert (WW2), CTF35381 - not sure if it's the same fellow though...

Married 1909 Folio #6185 Mary Agnes HARRIS* born 9 Jan 1889 NZ
death/burial unknown
Parents: Alfred George HARRIS 1860-1955 NZ
and Jane Nichol PENDER 1869-1937

7 Children:

1. Lawrence Edgecombe MAXFIELD born 1901 NZ died 23 Nov 1941 Western Desert WWII buried Alamein Memorial, Egypt. Source: Casualty Details
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Spouse: Alma Alice (that's all I have)

2. female MAXFIELD married 1929 male JENNER, married male MOSS

3. female MAXFIELD married male MACDERMOTT

4. female MAXFIELD married male ADAM

5. John Samuel Anzac MAXFIELD born 9 Feb 1916 Tauranga NZ died 28 Mar 1958 Raglan NZ. Probate Record: occ Builder. Will filed 1959. Family say he was drowned in Raglan and his body was never recovered from the sea. Married female GREEN, 5 children.

6. female MAXFIELD married male BRYSON

7. male MAXFIELD married female HARDING

Can anyone add to my information please? Thanks.

Regards,
Alison
HARRIS* researcher.

Can anybody find a marriage / intention to marry for John FULLJAMES and Emily DOULLER?

Their first child was Mabel May Eliza FULLJAMES and she was born 14 Nov 1889 (unknown location, hoping it was NZ).

She married 28 Aug 1905 Whitely Memorial Church, New Plymouth, New Zealand Folio #4448 Harry Hewlett EDGECOMBE born 1876 Omata died 1956. Son of Charles EDGECOMBE and Julia Sophia MOYLE.

Mabel EDGECOMBE nee FULLJAMES died 1953 NZ. They had 4 children: Rita May EDGECOMBE born 1907 New Plymouth, Eric Moyle EDGECOMBE 1912-1985, Richard (Dick) EDGECOMBE 1913-1988, and Betty b 1918.

Can anyone assist pls?

Thanks,
Alison
EDGECOMBE researcher.

Joseph Walter STURMEY married Maude Charlotte EDGECOMBE, both of New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand. The couple had five children:-

1. Walter Joseph STURMEY born 1890 New Plymouth married 1913 Folio #0862 Ethel Maud ADDISON.

2. Maud Olive STURMEY born 1891 New Plymouth married 1916 Folio #2617 Thomas Hugh BOOTH.

3. Clarice STURMEY born 1894 New Plymouth died 1969 New Plymouth married 1914 Folio #9229 Bernard JULIAN

4. Lionel Waldemar STURMEY born 1896 NZ, wife's name not known.

5. Doris May STURMEY b 1899 New Plymouth married 1929 Folio# 04710 Ernest Gordon FORBES.


Q.Where are they all buried please if at all possible?
Q.Any other details would also be gratefully accepted, i.e. school records, electoral rolls, etc.

Thanks,
Alison
EDGECOMBE / HEWLETT / UYLETT / BAKER researcher.

Can anyone find a marriage C1860 'ish of Rebecca (Ripeka !) ROBINSON to Walter STURMEY?

This couple had 11 known children:-

1. Eleanor Robison STURMEY b 4 Apr 1861 New Plymouth d 1949 unknown location, no known spouse

2. Annie Susannah STURMEY b 18 Dec 1864 New Plymouth d 1947 unknown location, married 1886 Robert SMITH

3. James Alfred STURMEY b 9 Aug 1866 New Plymouth d 17 Aug 1866

4. Joseph Walter STURMEY b 1867 married Maude Charlotte EDGECOMBE* (lookup for this family is covered in previous request).

5. Rebecca Eva STURMEY b 1869 New Plymouth, no known spouse

6. Alice Ada STURMEY b 1871 New Plymouth, d 26 Jun 1947 Hawera, buried Hawera married 22 Nov 1889 James PERROTT b 1861 Nelson d 30 Dec 1939 Hawera, buried Hawera. Source: IGI

7. William Henry STURMEY b 1873 New Plymouth, no death, burial or marriage details known

8. Amelia Frederick STURMEY (? sounds a bit strange) b 1875 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

9. Arthur Lewis STURMEY b 1877 New Plymouth

10. Walter STURMEY b 1879 New Plymouth

11. John George Sheppel STURMEY b 1882 New Plymouth

Q.Can anyone find death/burial records for these children, and/or spousal names, anything really. Thanks.

Regards,
Alison
*EDGECOMBE etc researcher.

Looking to fill in some blanks in my family tree. I have:-

William COTTIER born 1840 Isle of Man, England
married 26 Jun 1867 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand (source: IGI) Mary Jane GRYLLS (IGI has CRYLLS!) born 1846 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand. Parents names not yet known for the couple. William COTTIER died aged 65 years and was buried 1905 New Plymouth Cemetery, New Zealand. Details of wife's death/burial not yet known.

Seven (7) Children:-
1. Henry William COTTIER born 10 Feb 1868 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand died 11 Nov 1947 New Plymouth (source: IGI), buried 1947 aged 79 years New Plymouth Cemetery, New Zealand, married 1895 Priscilla Ida COWLING born 1871 New Plymouth died 1948 New Plymouth, daughter of William COWLING and Mary HAWK. No children yet known of, but possibly there were. I have found a burial record for an infant Henry William COTTIER that died in 1906 aged 11 months, buried New Plymouth Cemetery. Wondering if this was Henry William COTTIER Junior?.

2. Charles Percy COTTIER christened 13 Jan 1873 New Plymouth (source: IGI). Death/burial records not yet found. Search June 2008.

3. Emma May COTTIER christened 25 Jan 1874 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

4. Sydney Mason COTTIER christened 3 Feb 1876 New Plymouth (source: IGI). Died 1953 aged 77 years, buried New Plymouth Cemetery.

5. Richard Grylls COTTIER born 1877 NZ died 1940 Stratford, Taranaki married 1904 Folio #2147 Ella Sophia EDGECOMBE born 1879 New Plymouth died 1964, 5 children. Ella was the daughter of Charles EDGECOMBE and Julia Sophia MOYLE. Five children: William b 1905, James b 1906, Howard b 1911, Kenneth 1914-1981 and Joan b 1918.

6. Jessie Black COTTIER christened 15 May 1879 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

7. Ivy Gertrude COTTIER christened 24 Mar 1881 New Plymouth (source: IGI)

Questions:
a) Can anyone find when/where William & Mary COTTIER died or are buried?
b) I have spousal names for two of their children. Can anyone find marriage records for their other five children?
c) When did the COTTIERs and GRYLLs come to New Zealand?

Interesting websites:-

'Amelia Thompson' arrived New Plymouth 3 Sept 1841 mentions a GRYLLS family.

New Zealand Yesteryears - Passenger Lists - 'Earl Stanhope' mentions passenger the Reverend J.C. GRYLLS 20 Feb 1840.

Cottier Family NZ website

Cottier Estate 2005 Wairarapa Pinot Noir

GRYLLS family burial records New Plymouth, New Zealand

A Roll of Honour : Book Collectors mentions a Rev. William GRYLLS, Vicar of Crowen, Cornwall Bequeathed to Trinity College, Cambridge, in 1863. The Grylls family appear to have belonged to Tavistock, Devonshire, where they were found in the reign of Elizabeth. But the name and stock are traceable back to Edward I.


Regards,
Alison
EDGECOMBE/HEWLETT researcher.

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Dear Readers

The following information has come to light from another mutual descendant of the Amor/Wheelers - emigrants from Wiltshire England. While some of the information following is not correct*, it is interesting to read more on our ancestors' lives.

*"...many of their children did not survive infancy..." - INCORRECT
*"...only surviving daughter, Ellen..." - INCORRECT
*and other such errors and inconsistences. NB Please see my journals for accuracy on bdms. NB Also, their last child not listed here, namely Henry AMOR was born in 1876 at "Top Creek", Echuca, Bendigo, Rochester, Victoria and he was my grandmother's father.

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William & Ann had 11 childern , who came to Australia when they were newly married, on the 'Beejapore' from Yorkshire. The 'Beejapore' arrived Botany Bay NSW 14th March 1857. The journey usually took about 9 months from England.

William Amor was born in 1837 at Brouham, Wiltshire England. In 1857, after several months at sea, William and his wife Anne Priscilla (nee Wheeler) came to Australia in search of a new life, settling in Victoria.

Their first daughter Elizabeth Jane was born in 1858 at Sawpit Gully. William quickly found work on the Mount Mercer cattle station, before heading to the gold fields at Carngham. George Amor was born at Whim Holes in 1959 but died in 1860. Ellen was born in 1861.

Having little or no success, William returned to his trade as a butcher, working at Mount Misery for three years. With gold fever still running through his veins, he returned to the gold fields at Whim Holes Diggings (Hard Hills), for a further two years. After this he returned once more to butchering and storekeeping at Paddy's Gully near Rokewood.

It was here at Rokewood that four more of the Amor children were born: William 1863, Anne 1865, Fredrick James 188 and Rebecca 1869. From there William changed direction to carrying on the roads and continued mining at Break O'Day and the other areas throughout the gold fields. Both Martha 1871 and George 1873 were born at Ondit.

As William and his family moved north east, he selected 174 acres at Top Creek near Rochester which he continued to farm for eight years. William and Anne's last child, Robert, was born in 1874 at Rochester. Many of their children did not survive infancy*.

William selected 146 Acres of land in the Parish of Kotupna where he continued to farm with his family. Over the years he purchased quite a large area of land and ran a successful vineyard on one of the allotments.

He and his family were prominent in the affairs of their district, William being a very active member of the Kotupna Railway league, attempting to obtain a railway running through the district. He was also one of the residents who worked to obtain the establishment of a creamery at Kotupna and also had an interest in affairs in Nathalia, with the Argicultural Society and the Independent Order of Oddfellows.

The boys were keen sportsmen competing in athletic sports, cricket and football with the Kotupna and Akiti Creek teams. Sadly, Robert died at the age of twenty-seven on the 17th August 1902 and was interred in the Nathalia Cemetary.

Their son William Jnr. married Louisa Ann Pridmore in 1883. Louisa has been norn at Daylesford twenty years earlier, the daughter of Rueben and Anne (nee Hunt) Pridmore, before her family also moved to Kotupna. William and Louisa had several children, Fredrick was born at Echuca in 1885 but only survived for fourteen days. Both Annie Louisa 1886 and Ethel May 1887 were born at Barwo.

William and Anne's only surviving daughter*, Ellen, married John Mitchell in 1881 and lived in the Barwo area with their children, Ellen, William Robert 1884 and John Francis 1886 all attending Barwo West School.

Anne Amor died on 20th September 1906, aged seventy-one years and her husband, William, died at the age of seventy-six, on the 4th December, 1913. Both are buried in the Nathalia Cemetary. The Amor name no longer remains in the Nathalia or Kotupna area today.

Source - Pioneers of Nathalia and district - Compiled by Nathalia Genealogical Group, 1 January, 2000