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Recently I visited the Tresmeer cemetery, Cornwall in search of graves and came across the grave of Catherine Ebbott.
The headstone read
?In Loving Memory of
Catherine Ebbott
of this Parish
who died 24th May 1902
Aged 85 years. Thy will be done?

I was very excited when we located the grave, however I had to wait until I got home (to Australia) before I could figure out who Catherine Ebbott was ? she was the wife of my third great granduncle! It was the only grave in this parish church that I could find that had any connect to my family, there may have been others but after a while it becomes overwhelming trying to remember all the possible connections.

The mystery of Catherine Ebbott nee Mathew
Further Research revealed that Catherine was born in 1817 as Catherine Mathew and christened in 6 Apr 1817 in Tressmeer and lived there until she married Gregory Ebbot. Soon after the couple married they went to the USA. The following year after marriage they had their first child Caroline Ebbott, both mother and child returned possibly sometime in 1849 to England. Caroline may have been pregnant with her second child, Elizabeth Ann Ebbott (although I am unable to verify this) when she returned. It would appear that Gregory never returned to England.

In the 1851 Census Catherine is living with her parents and eldest daughter, Carolene who was 5 years old. Carolene was listed in the census as being born in America. Although Catherine is listed as married her husband is not present. Between 1861 and 1881 Cartherine is always listed as married but there is never a husband mentioned.

On 01/19/1854 there is a record of divorce proceedings for a Gregory Ebbot and Catherine Ebbot in Jefferson County, Wisconsin it was Gregory Ebbot, the plaintiff, who filed for divorce. The outcome of this application has not yet been researched yet, I am still waiting for a reply from the Dodge/Jefferson Counties Genealogical Society, Watertown, WI

In 1861 Census Catherine appears to be living by herself in the house next to her parents.
In 1871 Census Catherine is still listed as married but is living by herself and listed as an annuitant
In 1881 Census - Catherine is living by herself next to the Bluett family still married but still no husband list and she is listed as retired.
In 1891 Census Catherine is 73 Living On Her Own Means
In 1901 Census Visiting John & Elizabeth Fryan and listed as single.
Unfortunatley I have not been able to locate Gregory her husband until 1870 when there are two posibile candidates one living with the Ottawa, Waukesha, Wisconsin, United States working as a farm labourer and living with the Bluett family. There is also a second Gregory Ebbott living in Sullivan, Jefferson, Wisconsin, United States who has become a citizen of the US and farms a large property and has children with a woman Mary who is 30 years his junior.
Then the question is who/where is Catherine?s husband, I am presuming he was still alive as she is never listed as a widow? Does anyone recongnise this family or have any suggestions on how to approach the problem? Then question is who/where is Catherine?s husband, I am presuming he was still alive as she is never listed as a widow? Does anyone recongnise this family or have any suggestions on how to approach the problem?

Mary Ferrett is my fourth great-grandmother she married Philip Upton Ebbott in 1804, in Trenglos, Cornwall thus becoming Mary Ebbott.
As explained in a previous post entitled Two Mary Ebbotts help need to disentangle them I have been trying to distinguish which of the two Mary Ebbotts that appeared in the 1841 was my ancestor.

To recap- In the 1841 Census in Cornwall, there are two Mary Ebbott?s born about 1786 in the county of Cornwall. When searching on the web, I noticed that these two Mary?s are often interchangeable and both often assigned to my ancestor Mary Ebbott (nee Ferrett).
This is further complicated by both of these Mary?s staying with families who are directly related to my ancestors.
In household 1 Philip Ebbott is the eldest male in the household. Mary in this household would be Philip?s wife, and therefore my ancestor. This is corroborated by the 1851 census, where both are listed as husband and wife.

In household 2 John Bone is the eldest male of the household. John is the father-in-law of Sarah Ebbott, Mary Ebbott (nee Ferrett)?s daughter. It is possible that Mary could have been visiting Sarah?s in-laws on the night of the census. John Bone?s wife Grace died two days before the census and this could have been the reason for the visit. I can find no further record of this second Mary Ebbott in the 1851 census or death between 1841 and 1851.

Working Theory
Both Mary Ebbott?s in the 1841 census are the same person who was registered in two places. She may have been staying the night of the census with relatives (John Bone), and was included on the household census. And at the same time Mary?s husband, Philip Ebbott, not following instructions to the letter, may have included her in the household as this is where she lived.
If the head of household was literate then they would fill out the census for the family. This could mean that husband, Philip Ebbott filled the census out as soon as he got it and/or it sat around waiting to be picked up, in the meantime his wife may have gone visiting to John Bone's either for the day or overnight and as a consequence was recorded as being at the Bone's residence as well. The residences being only 3 miles apart this would be have been quite plausible.

I would be interested in hearing other researchers thoughts on my conclusion either in agreement or disagreement, I would be particularly interested in anyone who can claim or recognise the Mary Ebbott of household 2 thus disproving my theory of a double up.

The background to my conclusion
The first step was to trace and confirm the identity of Mary in household 1, beyond the 1841 census. In the 1851 she is confirmed as the wife of Philip. Mary?s husband Philip passes away a two months after the 1851 census, and soon after in 1854 Mary with her youngest son William migrate from Tresmere to Palumyra, Wisconsin, USA via Quebec.
The second step then was to establish or eliminate the Mary in household 2. I looked for a death of a Mary Ebbott between 1841 and 1852 to see if she had died between the censuses. I found only one Mary Ebbott dying during this period. The death registration was for a Mary Jane EBBOTT. This Mary Jane Ebbott was the granddaughter of Mary Ebbott (nee Ferrett) and only 3 years of age. The result being the Mary Ebbott in household 2 remains a mystery.

I often search for death notices and personal details in the Newspapers but have recently found two unexpected notices in the The London Gazzette.
You can imagine how delighted I was to find that my second cousin twice removed, Reginald Harry Ebbott had received an OBE.
I also found death notice of Jane Grylls Jacka in the same publication so its worth having a look at.

Happy hunting.
Cheers Sandra

Information for Tonkin as promised.

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Husband: Edwin Knight Jacka
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Born: 18 Jan 1871 - Charcol Gully, Chewton, , Victoria, Australia (1)
Christened:
Died: 4 Jun 1929 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (2)
Buried: 6 Jun 1929 - Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, , New South Wales,
Australia
Father: Joshua Jacka (1840-1907) (3)
Mother: Rebecka Bennetts (Est 1849-1912)
Marriage: 27 May 1896 Place: Bendigo, , Victoria,
Australia (4)
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Wife: Elizabeth Ebbott
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Born: 26 Jul 1872 - California Gully, Eaglehawk, , Victoria,
Australia (5)
Christened:
Died: 4 Jan 1955 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
(6)
Buried: 5 Jan 1955 - Northern Suburbs Cemetery, North Sydney, , New
South Wales, Australia
Father: John Ebbott (1840-1920)
Mother: Margaret Thomas (1847-1906) (7)
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Children
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1 M Cyril Knight Jacka
Born: 1896 - Fitzroy North, , Victoria, Australia (8)
Christened:
Died: 1974
Buried:
Spouse: Edna "Doreen" Harvey ( - )
Marr. Date: 1923 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (9)
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
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2 M Edwin Stanley Jacka
Born: 1898 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (10)
Christened:
Died: 1899 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (11)
Buried:
Spouse: Did Not Marry
Marr. Date:
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3 F Margaret Edith "Rita" Jacka
Born: 1900 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (12)
Christened:
Died: 28 Jul 1984 - Boonah, , Queensland, Australia
Buried: 30 Jul 1984 - Kalbar Cemetery, Kalbar, , Queensland, Australia
Spouse: John "Jack" Aaron Palmer Williamson (1892-1982)
Marr. Date: 2 Sep 1922 - The Methodist Church, Hamilton, , New South Wales,
Australia (13)
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
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4 F Dorothy Annie "Dorrie" Jacka
Born: 31 Jan 1902 - Brunswick, , Victoria, Australia (14)
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: John "Jack" Dennis ( - )
Marr. Date: 1926 - Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia (15)
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
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5 M John Lesley "Les" Jacka
Born: 15 Jul 1906 - North Fitzroy, Melbourne, , Victoria, Australia
(16)
Christened:
Died: 1994
Buried:
Spouse: Sadie Mary Catherine Rath ( - )
Marr. Date: 1936 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (17)
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
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6 M Edwin "Eddie" Jacka
Born: 1 Feb 1909 - Bendigo, , Victoria, Australia (18)
Christened:
Died: 1 Mar 1958 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (19)
Buried:
Spouse: Maureen Newsom (1912-1996)
Marr. Date: 11 Oct 1940 - Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (20)
Spouse:
Marr. Date:
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7 F Elizabeth Anne "Beth" Jacka
Born: 13 Aug 1915
Christened:
Died: 31 Mar 1976
Buried:
Spouse: Harold W. Robards (1911- )
Marr. Date: 1942 - Chatswood, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia (21)
Spouse:
Marr. Date:

Sources

1. Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Birth
Certificate Edwin Knight Jacka (Year 1871, #1427 Original a certified
copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
2. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 9559/1929 JACKA EDWIN K JOSHUA REBECCA
HAMILTON.
3. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical
Index(R) (Copyright,(c) 1980, 2002) downloaded 08 Sep 2006.
4. Registry of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia, Marriage
Certificate Edwin Knight Jacka & Elizabeth Ebbott (Reference Details Year
1896, Reference #2319. Original a certified copy. Photocopy in possession
of Sandra Williamson).
5. Birth Certificate Elizabeth Ebbott, 26 July 1872, Reference #15056, Registry
of Birth, Death and Marriages, Victoria, Australia (Original a certified
copy. Photocopy in possession of Sandra Williamson).
6. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 1560/1955 JACKA, ELIZABETH, Father JOHN,
Mother MARGARET, Place CHATSWOOD.
7. Inscription of Margaret Ebbott's grave head stone.
8. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1896 Reg# 27737.
9. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 15798/1923.
10. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1898 Reg# 16659.
11. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Yr 1899 Reg #765.
12. Victoria Federation Index 1889 - 1901 (Produced by Macbeth Geneological
Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd), Year: 1900 Reg.
Number: 1238.
13. NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Marriage Certificate of John
Aaron Palmer Williamson & Margaret Edith Jacka (Original a Marriage
Transcription by Joy mUrrin (Transcription Agent NSW Births, Deaths and
Marriages) Certificate 11616 year 1922).
14. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1902; Reg. Number: 1170. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: Dorothy
Annie; Sex: F; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth Place:
BRUNSWICK.

15. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 18053/1926. Groom's
Surname DENNIS; Groom's Given Name(s) JOHN ; Bride's Last Name at Time of
Marriage JACKA; Bride's Given Name(s) DOROTHY A; District HAMILTON.
16. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1906; Reg. Number: 18486. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: John Leslie;
Sex: M; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth Place: FITZROY
NORTH.
17. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 6478/1936. Groom's
Surname JACKA; Groom's Given Name(s) JOHN LESLIE; Bride's Last Name at
Time of Marriage RATH; Bride's Given Name(s) SAIDEE MARY CATHERINE;
District CHATSWOOD.
18. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 (Version 2.21 Produced by
Macbeth Geneological Services P/L, Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd),
Year: 1909; Reg. Number: 782. Surname: JACKA; Given Names: Jos Edwin;
Event: B; Sex: M; Father: Edwin Knight; Mother: Elizth EBBOTT; Birth
Place: BENDIGO.
19. Personal Data Stuart Jacka.
20. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), Registration Number 22470/1940. Groom's
Surname JACKA; Groom's Given Name(s) EDWIN JOSEPH; Bride's Last Name at
Time of Marriage NEWSOM; Bride's Given Name(s) MAUREEN; District SYDNEY.
21. New South Wales Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages
(http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au), 21141/1942 ROBARDS HAROLD WILLIAM JACKA
ELIZABETH ALMA CHATSWOOD.

There are two Mary Ebbotts in the 1841 Census, and both are living with relations. I have managed to solve the identity of one of them but the other who must somehow be related is a complete mystery to me, I?m sure she?s related but I can?t work out how, I am presuming that Ebbott is her married but that leaves me none the wiser. Anyone know who Mary Ebbott who is living in the with the Bone family below is? Fro further detail see below:-

The mystery Mary
Name: Mary Ebbott, Age: 55, Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Street Address: Treludick, Egloskerry, Cornwall
Household Members:

1. John Bone, 60, Farmer, Cornwall (father of Sarah Bone who married John Ebbott born 1808)
2. William Bone, 20, Cornwall
3. Julias Bone, 20, Cornwall
4. Jane Bone, 25,Cornwall
5. John Coram, 15,Cornwall
6. Ann Congdon, 15, Female Servant, Cornwall
7. Henry Coram 3, Cornwall
8. Elizabeth Woof, 35, Cornwall
9. Fanny Woof, 4 Mo, Cornwall
10. Richard Woof, 10, Ag Labourer, Cornwall
11. Walter Pearse, 10, Ag Labourer, Cornwall
12. Mary Ebbott, 55, Cornwall (not sure who this Mary Ebbott)
13. Sarah Pearse, 30, Female Servant, Cornwall
(Piece: HO107/134/1 )

My Ancestor Mary Ebbott nee Ferrett
The Ebbott family living in Trerimince, Tresmeer, Cornwall
Household Members:
1. Philip Ebbott,65, Farmer, Cornwall
2. Mary Ebbott, 55, Cornwall, (presumably Phillip?s wife)
3. Wilmit Ebbott, 85, Independent, Cornwall (Philips?s mother)
4. Henry Ebbott, 20, Tailor, Cornwall
5. Gregory Ebbott, 20, Cornwall
6. William Ebbott, 11, Cornwall
7. William Congdon, 20, M.S, Cornwall
8. William Cory, 15, M.S, Cornwall
9. John Reed, 11, M.S, Cornwall
10. Elisabeth French, 15, F.S, Cornwall
11. Mary A Rundle, 20, F.S, Cornwall
12. Henry Harris, 7, M.S, Cornwall
(Piece: HO107/134/14)

1851
Place: Alternon Tresmeer
Address: Trerummer

1. Philip EBBOTT, Head, M, 76, Retired Farmer, Cornwall - Tresmeer
2. Mary EBBOTT, Wife, 68, Cornwall - Treneglos
3. William EBBOTT, Son , 21, Farm Servant, Cornwall - Tresmeer
(Piece: HO107/1899)

Edwin Knight JACKA
Vital Statistics
Birth: 18 Jan 1871 - Charcol Gully, Chewton, Victoria, Australia
Death: 4 Jun 1929 - Hamilton, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: 6 Jun 1929 - Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, New South Wales,Australia

Events in Edwin's life

12 Feb 1894 he worked as a Storekeeper in Chewton, Victoria, Australia.

12 Feb 1894 Sold Property: Allotment 43 Section F Chewton to his father. The property was sold for sixty pounds.

1896 he had a residence in Fitzroy North,Victoria, Australia.

6 Apr 1896 He had a residence in Collingwood, Victoria, Australia but he came back to Chewton to marry Elizabeth EBBOTT

from 1898 to 1902 he lived at 670 Sydney Road, Brunswick, Victoria, Australia

1899 He was employed as a grocer according to the electoral rolls,at Moran & Cato

1905 He had a residence in 1905 in 7 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy,Victoria, Australia.

24 Jul 1907 he lived at 465 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy North, Victoria, Australia.

20 Sep 1929 The following items appeared in The Argus for Edwin
NOTICE Is hereby given, that alter the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof APPLICATION will bo made to the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria, in its Probate jurisdiction, by Elizabeth Jacka, of Hamilton, ?n the State of New South Wales, widow, to whom probate of the will (dated the twenty first day of August, one thousand nine hundred and six), of EDWIN KNIGHT JACKA, formerly of 465 Brunsvvick street. North Fitzroy, in the State of Victorla, grocer, but late of Hamilton aforesaid, commercial traveller, deceased, was granted by the Supreme Court of the State of New South Wales, in its Probate jurisdiction, on the thirtieth day of July, one thousand nine hundred and twenty-nine, that the SEAL of the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria may be AFFIXED to the said probate. Dated the nineteenth day of September, 1929. DARVALL & HORSFALL, 243 Collins street,

Thomas MANDERSON was the child of Hannah YOUNG and Thomas MANDERSON. Thomas married one of my ancestors Lillian CRUMP and then seemed to disappear.
As my search for Thomas has not been successful so far I have decided to focus on his mother to see if I can find a lead through that,
Hannah YOUNG was born 6 Jul 1840 England and married Thomas MANDERSON(born 1840) in Easington Durham, England. Hannah and Thomas had the following children, only three survived past the age of two years.
1. Infant b & d England
2. infant b & d England
3. infant b & d England
4. infant b & d England
5. infant b & d England
Hannah and Thomas arrived in Australia on the ?Palmtree? leaving Liverpool on the 12/4/1866
6. Mary Ann b. Sept 1867 (married Henry GANNAWAY b.1866 w/hills) and moved to WA
7. George b. 1870 d. 5/3/1870 Eaglehawk
8. Thomas b.1871 d, 14/8/1872
9. Peter b. 1873 Nerring d. June 1873 Eaglehawk
10. William b. 1875 Eaglehawk m.1896 to Christina WILLIAMS d. 4/7/1910 Broken Hill [William was still living there in 1911]
11. Thomas b. 1877 Eaglehawk d. unknown m. 1903 to Lillian Crump
12. Elizabeth Jane b.1883 Eaglehawk d.28/9/1880 Eaglehawk
13. Hannah b. 1883 Eaglehawk d.22/2/1885 Eaglehawk

Thomas MANDERSON b. 1840 d.16/8/1895. In the Argus on Friday 6 December 1895 it was announced that Letters of administration have been granted by the registrar to the estates for .... Thomas Manderson for 200 pounds. ... amongst other names.
It appears that Hannah also brought two lots of land 58/59F (Eaglehawk) on 22/10/1895, this still has to be verified (source:-Annette O'Donohue & Bev Hanson, Eaglehawk & District Pioneer Register Volume 3 J ~ M (Maiden Gully, Vic. : A.M. O'Donohue, 2003)) Eventually locating these land titles and finding out when they were sold might help to locate when Hannah moved out of the area.
Hannah remarried two years later in 1897 to John Laughton in Footscray 1897
We know that she was in Eaglehawk in
? 1903 where she and her husband were living in Caldwald St Eaglehawk
? 1909 where she appears to be living without her husband in Junction St Eaglehawk
But between 1910 until her death in 1919 we are not sure where she was living.

Hannah died 18 Oct 1919 at McDonald Street, Coolgardie, Western Australia, which is where her daughter (Mary Ann Gannaway nee Manderson) lived.
Published in the Western Argus (Kalgoorlie, WA Tuesday 28 October 1919
? LAUGHTON.-On October 18, at i .McDonald-st., Coolgardie, Hannah (better known as "Grandma"), dearly beloved mother of Mary Ann and Henry Gannaway, and grandma of Tom and Maggie Gannaway (of Bunbury), and Henry and Emily (Wagin), and Lottie and Bede Chesher (Coolgardie), and great-grandma to Bonnie, Phyllis, Eva, Irene and May, and sister of M. A. McLean. Aged 79 years and 3 months. Deeply mourned. ?

Anyone got any clues or pearls of wisdom that might help shed light of either Hannah YOUNG or her son Thomas MANDERSON?

Cheers, Sandra