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CAMPBELL family from Sorrento/ Portsea / Melbourne Victoria Australia. I'm trying to trace the Campbell line in my family.

Query by TeaganC

Hi All
This is my first question on here so please bear with me...

I'm trying to trace my family tree and am starting with my Paternal grandfathers line 'Campbell'.
My grandfather was John Herbert Bruce Campbell (Jack)(1922-2003)
I know that he was born in the 'Back beach Palace'(AKA The Oceanic) in Sorrento Victoria. I believe his parents (Ernest Bruce Campbell (1891-1983) & Violet Alvina Wooster (1891-1978)) ran the hotel. I am also told that my great grandfather owned a dairy farm where the Tullamarine airport is now located.
I can trace the Campbells back through the following:

Ernest Bruce Campbell's parents were:
Herbert Augustus Campbell (1863-1916) & Wilhelmina Elise Wagner (1867-?)

Herbert's parents were:
Alfred Douglas Campbell (1827-1893) & Emily Goodwin (1832-1911)

Alfred's parents were:
Anderson ? Campbell (1795-1854) & Mary Ann Field (1797-?)

Anderson's parents were:
Anderson ? Campbell (1763-?) & Catherine Purney (1765-?)

I cant find anything past this lineage.

I'm after any info that might fill in the '?' in my dates and names, as well as any information that i can trace back past the 1763 Anderson Campbell. Ultimately I'd love to find out which Campbell Clan we descend from.

Surnames: Campbell Field Goodwin Purney Wagner Wooster
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by tonkin on 2017-03-27 18:07:53

DEATH.

Name: Wilhelmina Elise CAMPBELL.
Died: 1948 Camberwell, Victoria.
Age: 84 years.
Father: Ernest Christian Henry WAGNER.
Mother: Anna Rebecca TIEDEMANN.
Ref: Registry of Deaths Victoria. Reg. #11958.

by Crawford on 2017-03-28 03:29:33

CAMPBELL. —On November 2, at 9 Marlborough avenue, Camberwell, Wilhelmina Elise, dearly beloved wife of the late H. A. Campbell. (Inserted by her family.)

FUNERAL NOTICES

CAMPBELL. —The private Funeral of the late Mrs. WILHELMINA ELISE CAMPBELL will leave the parlours of Le Pine & Son, 841 Burke road, Camberwell, THIS DAY (Wednesday), after a service commonclng at 1.15 p.m., for the Melbourne Crematorium.

LE PINE & SON PTY. LTD. JA1104.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 3 November 1948 p 7 Family Notices

by janilye on 2017-03-28 11:10:12

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) Sat 21 Oct 1922
CAMPBELL.- On the 14th October, at Back Beach Palace, Sorrento,
to Mr. and Mrs. E. B. Campbell- a son. Both well.

by janilye on 2017-03-28 11:43:54

I think the Back Beach Palace and the Oriental were 2 different places. I believe John Wooster owned the Oriental from about 1906 to the 1940's.
Contact itellya He'll know all about it.

by janilye on 2017-03-28 12:22:29

Oh yes, I see the connection now, they were two different places. Should have read your journal right through, and would have seen your WOOSTER.
Violet Alvina Wooster took over the Oriental
I've matched them up in 1946.

by janilye on 2017-03-28 13:21:42

Standard (Frankston, Vic.) Thu 25 Jul 1946
SORRENTO

Thursday last was a happy day for Mr. and Mrs. John Wooster, for
it was the anniversary of their wedding day. They have been married
for 56 years, 40 years of which has been spent at Sorrento. For nearly
thirty years, Mr. and Mrs. Wooster conducted the Oriental Guest House,
one of the most popular places of stay around the bayside.
It was rather a coincidence that Mr. and Mrs. Wooster's wedding anniversary should fall on the same day on which the successful community hospital meeting took place at Sorrento. Mrs. Wooster is the principal mover in this proposal, which when established, will be a great thing for Sorrento and district.
The Age, Mon 1 March 1954
WOOSTER.— On February 27 (suddenly), John Timothy of
Sorrento, loved husband of the late Alvlna, loving father of Violet (Mrs.
Campbell). Grace (deceased), Muriel (Mrs. Craig). Vera (Mrs. Beattle) and Les.
Mother and father re-unlted.
WOOSTER.— On February 27 (suddenly), loving grandpa of
Vena, Grace, Jack and Bill.
Ever remembered.
WOOSTER, John Timothy.— In memory of our esteemed brother, who passed away on February 27.
— Inserted by Officers and Brethren, Sorrento Lodge, No, 371.

by TeaganC on 2017-03-28 19:56:07

oh my! thank you so much for all the information - I'm very very grateful.
Sorry for the confusion with the two hotels, I was mistaken - I read that Back Beach Palace was later known as the Oceanic (not oriental) and also known as the Coffee Palace.
However it turns out to be a lucky mistake as I had absolutely no idea that My family had any connection to the Oriental! I'm a bit speechless really.
So thank you again

Teagan

by janilye on 2017-03-29 02:17:53

Another interesting story is about Herbert August Campbell.
He was found drowned in the Yarra river in December 1916. His ankles were tied together and his pockets were filled with stones.
Inquest date was 12 December 1916.
Visit P.R.O.V.

by janilye on 2017-03-29 02:44:15

click on '1916/1192' then 'view record' The inquest will download which includes a deposition fron son, Ernest who identified his father.
Parents had not lived together for 10 years.

by TeaganC on 2017-03-29 02:54:24

Honestly I cant thank you enough for finding all of this information. My grandfather has passed away and sadly there was never much discussed about his family history while he was alive.

by janilye on 2017-03-29 10:55:26

Your grandfather may not have known much himself.
You will find a lot of information using the online search of the Victorian Public Records Office.
Ernest Christian Henry Wagner (father of Mrs. H. Campbell, Canterbury, and Mrs. T. Davis, Richmond) died on the 21 December 1902 at Sherwood-street, Richmond, Victoria ( his Will is available to view.)

by janilye on 2017-03-29 14:43:50

The Age, Thu 13 Apr 1893
CAMPBELL. — On the 11th April, suddenly, at his late residence, Kingston-road, Surrey Hills, Alfred Douglas,
the dearly beloved husband of Emily Campbell, aged 65 years.
A colonist of 40 years. Deeply regretted.
The Age, Sat 15 Apr 1893
CAMPBELL.— In memory of our beloved father, Alfred Douglas Campbell, who fell asleep on thu 11th April, aged 65 years. A total abstainer for many years.

The Age, Sat 11 Apr 1896
CAMPBELL.— In memory of my dear father. Alfred Douglas Campbell, of Canterbury, Victoria, who died 11th. April, 1893, aged 66 years.
—Inserted by his loving son, Thomas Campbell.

The Age, Sat 28 Jan 1911
DEATHS
CAMPBELL.— On the 24th January, at her son-in-law's residence,
Mr. H. J. Martin, Mont Albert-road, Surrey Hills, Emily, widow of the late Alfred Douglas Campbell, late of Surrey Hills, formerly of Gipps-street, Richmond Hill.

by TeaganC on 2021-11-18 11:09:04

by itellya on 2021-12-18 04:13:29

Teagan, yet another Tullamarine/ Peninsula connection. I have felt no need to research the Sorrento area because Clive Smith and team at Nepean Historical Society do it perfectly well. Tullamarine is another matter.

My extensive transcriptions of ratepayers were done at interval of about 15 years so it is possible that many ratepayers slipped through the cracks, but not Ernie Campbell. I was also able to identify which properties ratepayers occupied.

From my TULLAMARINE BEFORE THE JETPORT, PAGE 28 AND 32.
1948. (Keilor rates.) John Denham settles on Bayview which was henceforth called Denham's Land. One of his children, Joan, married Gordon Williamson of Dunvegan, whose father was highly regarded as an amateur vet in the Greenvale area.

1954-5 (Keilor rates.) John Denham who followed E.B.Campbell in 1848, is still on Nash's Bayview.

This makes it seem that John Denham bought the property from Ernie in 1948 but it was rarely indicated whether the occupant was also the owner. John was obviously leasing the property from Ernie because in Walter Vivian Murphy's pamphlet THE CASE AGAINST A JETPORT AT TULLAMARINE of 1958, E.B.Campbell is shown as the owner of part of the land north of today's Janus St/ Catherine Avenue midline to the northern boundary of Trade Park Industrial Estate. The pamphlet should be at the Library in the Hume Global Learning Centre at Broadmeadows but as the plans of the proposed housing developments have been published on pages 196 and 197 of Andrew Lemon's BROADMEADOWS: A FORGOTTEN HISTORY, you could arrange an inter-library loan at your local library if it doesn't have a copy.

Ernie's land was being developed by Dominion Pty Ltd but it's not clear whether this company had been established by Stanley Korman. The map on page 197 shows the boundaries of Ernie's land in more detail; its northern boundary adjoined the Tullamarine Methodist Church land donated by Charles Nash Senior in 1870. The main subdivision road (in much the same location as Catherine Avenue) leading to the proposed school at the western end of the subdivision did not meet Bulla Rd and was accessed via an entry road at the north corner of the DISTRICT SHOPPING CENTRE.
(I wonder if there was a Catherine in Ernie's family.)

Ernie's land was near the northern boundary of section 3 parish of Tullamarine in which no land was purchased for airport purposes circa 1960 so your statement-
I am also told that my great grandfather owned a dairy farm where the Tullamarine airport is now located could be amended to-
I am also told that my great grandfather owned a dairy farm near where the Tullamarine airport is now located.

by itellya on 2021-12-18 08:32:43

I TRIED A TROVE SEARCH FOR ERNEST BRUCE CAMPBELL.
Was he involved in the postal service? E.B.CAMPBELL seems to be a better search term.

In this letter about the Flinders water supply, Flinders means the Shire of Flinders, not the town.
FLINDERS WATER SUPPLY

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