I think this ** is your Alfred Edwin John Whiley but he is using the name John. Parents are correct and he did have a sister Caroline and Mary Curle were on the 1851 census. For reasons unknown he is listed as 10 yrs younger than he is.

1861 England Census
Name: John Whiley
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Whiley
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Whiley
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Kings Lynn St Margaret
Town: Kings Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration District: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration District: Kings Lynn North
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Thomas Whiley 50
Elizabeth Whiley 51
Robert Whiley 19
Caroline Whiley 15
John Whiley 13 **
Mary Curle 85 States boarder but I think mother-in-law

Re looked I now do not think this is your Alfred Edwin John Whiley because there was also a brother John 3 on the 1851 census. Will try again.

Hi Noggin,

Thank you for your response, yes John is a younger brother. It is the correct family though.

Thanks again for your help.

Kind Regards, Ann

is this his marriage and death? do you know what his occupation was ?

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Alfred Edwin John Whiley
Death Date: 15 Apr 1898
Death Place: Bowden
Age: 65
Residence Place: Bowden
Registration Place: Hindmarsh, South Australia
Page Number: 274
Volume Number: 251
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833


Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Alfred Whiley
Father's Name: Thomas Whiley
Spouse Name: Martha Baldwin
Spouse's Father's Name: Edwin Baldwin
Marriage Date: 25 Feb 1864
Marriage Place: Adelaide
Registration Place: Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number: 40
Volume Number: 57

Hi Noggin,

Yes it is. On his death it does say born about 1833 when he died at 65 yrs old it is definately hi even though is was born later.

He did marry Martha.

He's certainy done a dissapearing act on me. It is just that I would like to know when he came to Oz.

Thanks Again,
Ann

Hi Ann,

I'm Alfreds Great grand-daughter. From his birth certificate he was born just Alfred Whiley in 1838 to Thomas and Elizabeth. The info in the 1851 census is correct and then he disappears till he marries Martha Baldwin in South Australia. As the story goes he was a merchant seaman who jumped ship in Australia - I havent yet been able to ascertain what ship he was on. He married Martha Baldwin and one of their children was James Arthur Whiley who was my Grandfather. I located Alfred in 1856 on shipping records (BT118) coming home to England but nothing since then. He married Martha in 1864 so he must have arrived in Australia between 1856 and 1864!
I'm affraid the search is still on for info on the ship he came out on to Australia.

Regards
Chris

Hi Christine,

Thanks you for your response and or your information it is appreciated. I will continue to hunt around for his whereabouts between 1865 and 1864. I have him married to Martha BALDWIN.

Kindest Regards,
Ann

Hi Christine, Sorry I meant 1856 to 1864.

Hi Christine,

Do you have John Whiley as the father of Thomas Born 1811

Thanks a lot, Ann