Australia: My Prussian / German surname interests - New South Wales
allycat
The 'MOST' Family
Henry MOST (my ggg grandfather) was born 1824 Hesse, Germany. Another researcher believes his parents to be: Thomas MOST and Elizabeth unknown but I have no confirmation of this.
At the age of 24 years he landed in Colony of New South Wales, Australia in 1848, occupation farmer, died 20 Sep 1898 'Rose Cottage' Inverell, NSW Australia, buried 21 Sep 1898 Church of England Cemetery, Ashford, New South Wales, Australia. Naturalised 1873. Married in Brisbane 1866 to Henrietta Schia aka Bragier* born 1837 Germany, arrived Australia 1855, Occupation: Farmer, died 19 Oct 1884 Ashford Inverell NSW. Children: 1.Anna b 1867 Wellingrove, 2.Louisa b 1869 Myall Ck near Ashford & 3.John aka Jack MOST b 1874 Inverell.
*Henrietta had been married before back in Germany to unknown BROSER or BROSELLE in 1859, and they had one daughter, Mary (Marie) BROSER MOST born 1862 Germany, married William BRAZIER and married 1883 Frederick William PISCHKE. More information available.
Children of Henry MOST and Henrietta:-
1.Anna MOST married Ernest GIDDINS and had 4 children, Lavinia, Henry, Charles & Eva Giddins.
2.Louisa MOST (my ancestor) married in 1890 at Inverell to Arthur Ernest Rhodes MERRY born 1856 Steeple Claydon, Buck., England (google Roads Family of Buckinghamshire for ancestry to C1480). They had 8 children, Leonard 1890, Florence 1892, Thomas 1894, Wilfred 1895, Elsie (my ancestor) 1897, Lydia 1900, Sophia 1902 and Beatrice 1904.
3.John (known to all as Jack) MOST married in 1906 at Inverell to Una Bell BEARD born 1887 Warialda, and had 3 children
i) Maude MOST born 1907 Inverell NSW married Guy T. QUICK
ii) Henry MOST 1909~1909 Queensland http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/IndexSearch.htm
iii) May MOST (probably still living).
The 'VOSS / FLANZE (or PHRANZE)' Family
Frederick Joseph Herman VOSS born 1830 the Grand Duchy of Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany. N.B. Fred Voss' father -name unknown- was a farmer who hired himself out as a mercenary soldier under Napoleon. In 1812 it is said that he went with Napoleon's "Grand Armee" to Russia, on the infamous march to Moscow. [Source: Obit of F.Voss 'Inverell Times' June 26, 1936] Fred Voss married in 1859 Alshue Germany to Johanna Doratea FLANZE born perhaps 1821 Holstein, Germany {not proven} and died 1882 'Clarevaulx', registered Glen Innes NSW. Her parent's names are now known as Henry FLANZE and Dorothea unknown.
Shortly after arrival in C1855 via ship "Daniel Ross" ex Hamburg, family was obliged by the Australian Govt of the time to undergo naturalisation, and to anglicise their German names. Family made their way up from Port of Sydney in colony of NSW to vicinity of Moree, Gunnedah and Narrabri. First the family lived on 'Gurley Station' where Frederick worked as a shepherd and farmer. Later the family moved up to the Glen Innes area.
Fred & Dorothy VOSS had 6 children, 1.Otte Nickelark Marks, a twin to sister, 2.Dor - both born Germany, 3.Frederick b 1856 Gurley (my ancestor), 4. Hammon Henry b1862 Weewaa a twin of 5.Anna Dorothea, and 6.Emma Christina b1862 Wellingrove.
Their first child also known as Nicholas Otto Marcus VOSS married in 1881 at Glen Innes to Susan PAGE, daughter of William & Ellen PAGE. They had 10 known children - 1.Otto, 2.Mary, 3.Ellen, 4.Ada, 5.Frederick, 6.John, 7.Mabel, 8.Henry, 9.Emily and 10.Richard VOSS.
Second child - we think that Dor Voss died young, possibly in Germany before the family emigrated to Australia, verification required.
Third child, Fred VOSS (my ancestor) married in 1883 at Glen Innes to Mary WEBBER b 1863 Bundaberg, Qld. She was the daughter of Johannes Heinrich WEBER b 1829 Dickschied Prussia d 1902 Lambs Valley NSW, and Elizabeth ORTH b 1835 Roppershain Hesse Prussia, d 1914 Lambs Valley NSW. Note: I have been provided with ORTH ancestry back to the 1600s by fellow researcher Graham Shirra, USA.
Note: The Weber/Webber family also arrived in Australia via the same ship as the Voss family - the Daniel Ross the voyage taking 129 days.
Fred & Mary Voss had 6 children - 1.John William 1884, 2.Frederick Henry 1887, 3.Henry Frederick 1888 (my ancestor), 4.Ernest Francis 1890, 5.Caspar Orth 1896 and 6.Blanche Wilhelmina Nita VOSS 1906.
N.B. Sub-names include: Guthiel, Weiderman, Hastenpflug, Seigner, Hoffmeyer, Cranz, Lowerman, Curtze, Lieberman, Kurtz and Rohleder.
Fourth child, Hammon Henry De Voss married Maude BEDDY in 1904 Sydney.
Fifth child, Anna Dorothea Voss married 1878 Wellingrove to Edward Augustus PIETSCH and had 3 children, Emily 1881, Henry 1883 and Edward 1888 NSW.
Their lastborn Emma Christina Voss married 1883 Glen Innes to Joseph COLE and had 9 known children - Joseph, William, Ernest, Arnold, Darice, Norman, Agnus, Amy and Herman COLE all born Inverell NSW.
If there are any connections out there, please don't hesitate to write to me. I also have my tree on Genes Reunited at which site names can be freely searched, however there is a small fee to host your tree. It's a brilliant website!
Regards,
Alison, QLD, Australia.
Photograph below is of my ancestor Henry MOST - he worked as a Shepherd.
Note: I think the MOST surname may have originally been MOEST/MOIST or even MOSTYN.
I have uploaded my birth, death, marriage and baptismal Certificates at this site Certificate Sharing.
Comments
bequirky on 2007-05-30 11:09:14Hi Alison,
I'm not directly descended from your Voss family, but there maybe a connection by marriage. My g-grandfather was Samuel Maurer (brother of the George Maurer you mention in relation to your Pywell branch).
Their sister, Cecilia Johanna Maurer, (b.6.6.1868, King's Plains, NSW, daughter of John Maurer & Helena Quetscher) married Herman Henry Voss (known as Harry) on 29.2.1888 at the Waterloo Hotel, near Glen Innes. Herman Henry was born on 16.11.1862, the son of Frederick & Dorothea Voss. The witnesses to the marriage were her brother, Samuel Maurer & her sister, Christina Susannah Maurer.
Their children were:
Herbert Charles, b. 30.12.1888
Norman Henry, b. 1.8.1892
Archibald H., b. 1892 (presumably a twin)
Vida Lillian, b. 8.11.1894
Christina Hannah, b. 24.9.1890
Dorothy Helena, b. 18.8.1898
Ethel G., b. 1901
Daphne C., b. 1905
These records were given to me by a descendent of Joseph Maurer (the eldest of the Maurer children) about 20 years ago. He compiled them from the card index at the Beardy Museum, Glen Innes.
He also noted that:
Henry Richard Voss, son of Otto Voss & Susan Page, died from Cholera aged 7 weeks & 5 days on 20.2.1897 at Rockfield, Wellingrove;
and Mabel May Voss, b.4.9.1895, daughter of Otto Voss & Susan Page, died at King's Plains, 16.9.1895, aged 12 days old.
I hope this is of some interest/help.
Regards, Brendan
allycat on 2007-05-31 08:46:05Dear Brendan, Hi there. How absolutely wonderful of you to provide this information. I appreciate it thank you.
Now I know whom my late grandmother Ethel VOSS 1916~2001 was named after!
Alison
VOSS descendant.
moogirl on 2007-08-29 03:07:02Hi Alison,
I too am a VOSS descendant, also with a grandmother called Ethel Voss ( perhaps who your grandmother was named for). Her name was Ethel Grace ( as mentioned in the above comment by Brendan, daughter of Herman Henry and Cecilia Johanna Maurer ) and she married James Norman Stafford on 12-11-1927 at St James Church in Burwood NSW. Ethel died in 1958 but little information was passed down of her family.
I have just started researching so hope I am on the right track but have found your info fascinating.
I will be adding information to the site when I have details together.
Cheers
Karen
allycat on 2007-08-29 07:47:04Dear Karen, I'm very happy to meet you in cyberspace. If you click on my username and click on contact, send me a personal message and I shall reply with my personal email address. I don't generally like displaying it on the internet as there are people with those webcrawler packages that look for email addresses and then we end up being spammed with heaps of junk emails.
I generally haven't come across another VOSS descendant before. Have much information all stored on my hard-drive and stories passed down to me from my lovely late grandma Ethel Mary Voss 1916~2001.
Bye for now,
Alison.
doreen_manca on 2008-02-24 22:59:37hi allison your mum is my first cousin, my mun iris smith is a sister to your late grandma ethel mary. jack most was related to the merry side of the family your great grandma elsie voss nee merry was his niece the mosts lived in texas q,l,d. i have some old photoes somewhere of jack most, i will try and find them, i can get some taken off for you, if you like. do you live in brisbane, i go there a lot i have two daughters there, i could take the photoes up when i go again or send them to you. hope to meet you one day.
allycat on 2008-10-16 20:46:17Death Notice, Vida Lillian WARD (nee VOSS) 7 Apr 1983 aged 71 years, late of Greenacre, "Sydney Morning Herald".
Alexandria on 2008-10-23 22:56:16Hi, my name is Alexandria Voss and I'm from Ashford NSW. My great Grandfather was named Henry Fredrick Voss and he was born in Glen Innus. He had I think 4 kids their names were ida, coral, ethel, iris and john. John Voss is my grandfather. Henry had 3 brothers and 1 sister and their names were johnny, fred, earnie, cassie and Blanch. My Pop knows a lot about the brosers and most familys he is 83 - 84 in december. He would be pleased to help you with your unfilled information. Louisia Most was pops grandmother and she had another sister Anne Most and one brother Jack Most. He would be pleased to speak to you in the future about this subject. You can call him on 02 67254356 for more information. My contact is 0267254247 or email: vozzaproductions@live.com
allycat on 2008-10-24 00:03:27As I have been researching my genealogy since 1980, I have quite a lot of detailed information, but I am always looking for more photographs. Please would you be so kind as to attach any old pictures to journals here.
There are many other descendants out there of Anna & Jack Most and we would all be appreciative of more information on Henry and Henrietta's origins (including the Brosers/Broselles many spellings) etc.
Thanking you. Alison, also a great granddaughter of Harry & Elsie Voss.
Dracaena on 2011-05-12 22:06:25Hi Allycat,
It looks like its been a while since there was correspondence via this link but just in case...
I've just started researching my mother's family tree, and found out that her father's mother was Ellen Voss, daughter of Otto (Nicholas) & Susan (Page) Voss.
I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your research. I've been told countless times that my eyes are distinctly from a northern European area so I was particularly excited about finding a German (I now know Prussian) ancestor amidst my predominantly English ancestry.
Thank you again.
Regards,
Dale
allycat on 2011-05-13 17:53:03Dear Dale, Hi. I can't believe I almost missed your comment. Will send you a personal message as we appear to be 5th cousins or something like that. I have more information in my GEDCOM on my hard drive than produced here, especially about your maternal PAGE lines. I've found out that Susan (Otto's wife) her parents were William SPATCH and Ellen KEY. Ellen was married three times, spouse names: 1.Spatch, 2.Hazelgrove, 3.Page. That's why you have Susan Page.