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Journal by stevejbailey7777

Little is known about my great grandparents. With no marriage certificate nor any other form of document to help us with the family research, I have had to wait every 10 years for the UK census to be released, in the hope that at least one of them would reveal a piece of useful information. After 40 years, and the release of the 1911 census we were still not getting results.

Oral tradition has it that John Arthur BAILEY was on holiday in England and met Kathleen BARTLETT, some time between the late 1800s and early 1900s. According to the 1911 census they lived at 35 Gee Street, Goswell Road Ec in Clerkenwell and he was a labourer in the Cold Air Storage (possibly at Smithfield). The family at this address consisted of his wife Kathleen (formerly BARTLETT) bc 1881; Helen bc 1904; John bc 1908; Elizabeth bc 1910.

In the 80s I acquired a birth certificate for an Ellen Baily born 1903, father Thomas, mother Kate. After all these years no other birth certificate relates. Recent research revealed a christening of Ellen Cathaleen Bailey dau of Thomas and Cathaleen, at St Pauls, Clerkenwell for the year 1905 - a mystery still unsolved to this day.

My grand father was born 1908 and the parentage matches the 1911 census; father John Arthur BAILEY; mother Kathleen BAILEY(formerly BARTLETT)living at 68 St John Street, Holborn. Elizabeth was born 1910 and they were now living at Jerusalem Passage, Clerkenwell. They had other children, of which two died young, William (d.unknown) and Rosina (d.1913). Annie was born circa 1913 though registered as BARTLETT. Catherine 1917; Alfred 1921; Reginald 1925.

A lot of time and money can be wasted in the pursuit of genealogy. This is compounded by the Birth Registers archaic way of not revealing the maiden name of the mother up to circa 1912 (I stand corrected on date). All the registers should have been digitalized by now, with maiden name of mother given.

This year my family and I decided to try the DNA route. This too has pitfalls, the main one being the paper trail. DNA can tell you whether you may be related to a person, but not HOW. This means that each member of a Family Tree DNA site must still have done their genealogy, the paper trail, before any useful link can be established. Having said that, doing the DNA might well put you in touch with a distant relative, who having done their family tree, might help you with yours, or at least give some clues/leads. Be aware though that this type of genealogy is still in its infancy, and is very expensive for deeper research.

Surnames: BAILEY BARTLETT BRADFORD CALFE CARTER CRANE DUBOCK SAFFREY
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by noggin on 2013-08-22 11:28:45

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Rosina Bailey
Mother's Maiden Name: Bartlett
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Registration District: Holborn
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 1202

Does you John b 1908 have a middle name.?

by noggin on 2013-08-22 11:31:21

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Rosina Bailey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Age at Death: 1
Registration District: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 78

by stevejbailey7777 on 2013-08-22 21:02:12

According to the Coroner's Report my great grandfathers name was John Arthur Bailey, and this name does appear on all the birth certificates of his children (save Ellen). Thank you for the above information, although we had Rosina's birth certificate, we have not researched her death, and your findings are of interest.
Ann(i)e bc 1913 is the one that is eluding us. Her brother Alfred thought that she was Rosina's twin, but there is no BMD entry for her on the date that Rosina was registered. Very odd.

by noggin on 2013-08-23 04:00:54

These are all the Bailey children I could find with mothers name Bartlett. No Ann(ie)

Rosina Holborn London 1912 Jan-Feb-Mar
Harold J Lewisham London 1914 Jan-Feb-Mar
Albert E Marylebone London 1915 Apr-May-Jun
Catherine Holborn London 1917 Jan-Feb-Mar
Alfred Holborn London 1921 Jan-Feb-Mar
Reginald Holborn London 1925 Jul-Aug-Sep

by stevejbailey7777 on 2013-08-23 10:57:05

Thank you once again. It kind of bares up what I suggested to my father about a Zeppelin raid on London, which may have warranted the family moving away for a short while. Ann(I)e still remains unsolved.

by rosek on 2015-05-29 10:32:46

I'm also frustrated with my Bailey research. Are your Bailey ancestors from England or Ireland? Mine are from England. My gg grandmother Jane Bailey bc 1811 in England, married Freeman Henry Rose in Woodhouse, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada. A James Bailey was one of the witnesses. I don't know if he was a brother, father, etc. I found one brother William Bailey in Wisconsin, because his son was mentioned as her nephew in Jane's Kenosha, Wisconsin obituary. If any of this is helpful or at all matches with your research, please let me know.

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