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Bawden death record brickwall

Journal by cornishkid

My brickwall is my gggrandfather William Bawden's death record. The family was living in Menheniot, Cornwall, Eng, as William worked as a miner there, it is natural to think he died there. In a family bible it says he died on 17 Mar 1858 but we can find no record for him.

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on 2012-10-27 04:26:06

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by noggin on 2012-10-27 07:39:24

This the only one I could find fitting the date and place. Bit young to have a family.

Burials
Day Month 13-Jun Year 1858
Parish Or Reg District Menheniot
Forename William James
Surname BAWDEN
Age 18
Residence Crift Cottages
Transcriber Sue Mutton

by noggin on 2012-10-27 07:51:29

Does this look like your family? This could be the William in the Burial above.

Bawden Family 1851
Address: Crift Cottage, Menheniot County: Cornwall

William 1819 Lead Miner Breage, Cornwall
Ann 1812 Wendron, Cornwall
William 1840 Lead Miner Breage, Cornwall **
Ann 1842 Breage, Cornwall
Joseph 1844 Breage, Cornwall
Alice 1848 Breage, Cornwall
Elizabeth 1850 Breage, Cornwall

by noggin on 2012-10-27 08:01:59

Same William 1861
Address: Wheal Vor, Breage County: Cornwall
William 1819 Tin Miner Breage, Cornwall
Ann 1811 Miners Wife Wendron, Cornwall

The same couple are in the 1871 census at the same address

And again in the 1881 Census.

What details do you have already on William, ie DOB, place, wife, children. All info would help narrow the search down

by Andrew37 on 2012-10-27 09:35:41

A family tree on ancestry.com has death of William Bawden as 17th March 1858, age 35, wife Mary Bartlett. He was born Bridge. He is definitely the William James Bawden whose death is recorded in the April-June quarter of 1858. Andrew.

by cornishkid on 2012-10-27 19:17:08

Thank you once again for the info passed to me.
noggin; no that William is not mine. I do have a lot of info on William but not this death.
William b 1822 bapt 12 Oct 1822 at St Hilary (we are fairly sure this is his bapt)
William married Mary Ann Bartlett 1845 at Perranuthnoe
Their children
Thomas, Honor, John (my ggrandfather), Mary Ann, Edward, Susan Grace and Harry/Henry.
1841 census William is at home with his parents in Perranuthnoe
1851 " William & his family are living at Quethiock
1861 " William has already died so Mary and the family are at Menheniot.

Andrew my William mary Mary Bartlett but he doesn't have James as a second name. I wonder if this is a small mistake in this persons tree?

by asheppard on 2012-10-27 22:11:00

On the Cornish OPC database site, it lists William's marriage and his father as John BOWDEN.

It also has the baptisms for Honor under BOWDEN as well I wonder if Williams death was recorded as BOWDEN instead of BAWDEN.

possible other baptisms
Thomas Francis 1845 Lewannick
Honor BOWDEN 1847 Altarnun
John 1851 Quethiock
Mary Ann 1851 Quethiock

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Edward BOWDEN 1852 Duloe

a Mary Grace 1852 St Day but nothing for Susan nor for Harry/Henry

The Parish Records Office may be able to find Williams death.

Cornish OPC site
www.cornwall-opc-database.org

by cornishkid on 2012-10-28 03:58:46

Thanks asheppard, yes we do know that Honor was bapt as BOWDEN. Thomas Francis, Honor, John & Mary Ann is from our family. I have a cousin who lives in Lancs and he makes trips to the record offices and places in Con and he has had trouble trying to find William's death.

by Bawden4 on 2017-01-19 03:33:26

The Cornwall records are sometimes difficult to discern because of the two spellings: Bawden and Bowden. In my tree it came over to the US as Bawden but in UK records it's sometimes seen as Bowden. The family shield with the 3 "cockatrices"...imaginary creatures...with knives through their throats...someone told me it means someone was silenced. Shields emanate from the owner of the manor. I think I've seen that was Edward Bawden but haven't traced that far back to see if he was in our branch. I've seen another Bawden shield and don't know who that belonged to.

by Bawden4 on 2024-04-28 02:32:52

I've only gone as far as Stephen and Lucretia Matthews Bawden, daughter of James and Miriam Pacey Matthews who had:
Stephen 19 May 1755, Elizabeth 8 January 1769, Mary 9 June 1771, Lucretia 5 August 1732, all born in Perranuthnoe.

Stephen 1755 had Stephen 19 May 1791 married Elizabeth Gilbert born 18 June 1791, daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Reynolds [Jelbert is a mistranslation] 17 August 1809 in Redruth, Elizabeth Reynolds father, William, married Joan Cocking:
Stephen 6 April 1812 Redruth, ch 25 April 1812/1813, married Mary Terrill in Church of Redruth (St. Euny), daughter of Samuel and Mary Trewren Terrill,
Harriet 5 March 1815, Edwin 30 March 1817 came to the US as blacksmith and miner, married 22 November 1840 in Redruth, Elizabeth Jane Kitto, lived in limestone house in Linden, WI, died of horse kick in the head in Mineral Point, WI. buried in MP Cemetery alone. Elizabeth and dtr Elizabeth buried in Linden.
John 18 April 1819, died 19 January 1908 in El Dorado, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia (miner), he or brother Henry married Josepha Matthews,
Henry 1 April 1821, died 4 June 1870, carpenter in Moonta mining area, newspaper Wallaroo Times and Mining Journal, Port Wallaroo, NSW, Australia, 8 June 1870
Elizabeth 15 March 1823 married Irish linen salesman born 1827. She lived and died in Redruth,
Caroline 5 October 1825, died 18 February 1912 cardiac degeneration and hepatic colic, married Thos Vivian stone mason
Mathilda 19 July 1830 came to US 1860 Iowa federal census says she was part of brother Stephen's household in Rockingham (historical-now Davenport, Scott, Iowa), married Mr. Knotwell (first name Unk). Matilda's death Unk.
This is my direct line. That may help other Bawdens.

by Bawden4 on 2024-04-28 02:32:55

I've only gone as far as Stephen and Lucretia Matthews Bawden, daughter of James and Miriam Pacey Matthews who had:
Stephen 19 May 1755, Elizabeth 8 January 1769, Mary 9 June 1771, Lucretia 5 August 1732, all born in Perranuthnoe.

Stephen 1755 had Stephen 19 May 1791 married Elizabeth Gilbert born 18 June 1791, daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Reynolds [Jelbert is a mistranslation] 17 August 1809 in Redruth, Elizabeth Reynolds father, William, married Joan Cocking:
Stephen 6 April 1812 Redruth, ch 25 April 1812/1813, married Mary Terrill in Church of Redruth (St. Euny), daughter of Samuel and Mary Trewren Terrill,
Harriet 5 March 1815, Edwin 30 March 1817 came to the US as blacksmith and miner, married 22 November 1840 in Redruth, Elizabeth Jane Kitto, lived in limestone house in Linden, WI, died of horse kick in the head in Mineral Point, WI. buried in MP Cemetery alone. Elizabeth and dtr Elizabeth buried in Linden.
John 18 April 1819, died 19 January 1908 in El Dorado, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia (miner), he or brother Henry married Josepha Matthews,
Henry 1 April 1821, died 4 June 1870, carpenter in Moonta mining area, newspaper Wallaroo Times and Mining Journal, Port Wallaroo, NSW, Australia, 8 June 1870
Elizabeth 15 March 1823 married Irish linen salesman born 1827. She lived and died in Redruth,
Caroline 5 October 1825, died 18 February 1912 cardiac degeneration and hepatic colic, married Thos Vivian stone mason
Mathilda 19 July 1830 came to US 1860 Iowa federal census says she was part of brother Stephen's household in Rockingham (historical-now Davenport, Scott, Iowa), married Mr. Knotwell (first name Unk). Matilda's death Unk.
This is my direct line. That may help other Bawdens.

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