DEATH.

Name: Charles GROOM.
Died: 1948 Heidelberg, Victoria.
Age: 79 years. *
Father: Benjamin GROOM.
Mother: Lucy Elizabeth WARNER.
Reg #414.

* Informant may have given wrong age.

Thanks Tonkin

GROOM.-On the 20th November, at her resi-
dence, No. 23 Falconer street, North Fitzroy,
Lucy, the dearly beloved wife of Benjamin
Groom, loving mother of Mrs. H. Swain, Mrs
W. Brown, Mrs. A. West, Mrs. W. Ross, William,
Benjamin, Charles, John, and James Groom,
aged 71 years. At rest.

BIRTH.

Name: Charles GROOM.
Born: 1867 Melbourne, Victoria.
Father: Benjamin GROOM.
Mother: Lucy WARNER.
Reg #23117.

Hello Morgan,
There were two William Grooms' killed in WW1 ( cousins)
This one from Burnley is son of Charles, who also served.(read the circular) Mother's name Louisa Roll of Honour
And then his cousin, Captain William Edward Groom Roll of Honour

Thanks Janilye,
In his service record it states in a letter from a Medical officer;
that he lost two sons and two brother and has a daughter on a hospital ship

Here is Charles GROOM 71 pages.
DATEOFENLISTMENT: 19 May 1915
AGEONENBARKATION: 44
OCCUPATION: Powder Monkey
RELIGION: Baptist
ADDRESSONEMBARKATION: Keel-street, Collingwood
SPOUSE: Louisa

On his second enlistment in London, he is a mason. After his discharge in Australia he went to England as a War Worker.
There is a Charles Groom from Collingwood sent to Jail for theft. Some of these thefts are stone mason tools. This charles was also fined for bathing in Merri Creek. I wonder if it is him

The Argus, Friday 21 November 1913
GROOM.
On the 20th November, at her residence, No. 23 Falconer street, North Fitzroy,
Lucy, the dearly beloved wife of Benjamin Groom, loving mother of Mrs. H. Swain, Mrs
W. Brown, Mrs. A. West, Mrs. W. Ross, William, Benjamin, Charles, John, and James Groom, aged 71 years. At rest.
(buried at Melbourne General Cemetery)

Leader, Saturday 7 July 1917
GROOM.
On the 29th June, at his daughter's residence. "Walmar," Donald-street, Brunswick,
Benjamin, the dearly beloved husband of the late Lucy Groom, and beloved father of William Benjamin, Charles, John, James. Rosa, Mary, Charlotte, Emma, aged 82 years and 10 months (late of North Fitzroy)

Thanks again

Merri Creek ! Back then! now there's bravery for you, be like getting gassed all over again

Parents and siblings for your Charles GROOM.
Ten children located in Victoria for Benjamin GROOM and Lucy WARNER.

Louisa
Born circa 1863. (Birth not located)
Died: 1886 Brunswick, aged 23 years.

Charles
Born 1867 Melbourne.
Died: 1948 Heidelberg, age 79 years.

Mary
Born: 1870 Melbourne.
-

Elizabeth
Born: 1872 Brunswick.
Died: 1872 aged 19 days.

Elizabeth
Born 1874 Brunswick.
Died: 1875 aged 02 years.

John Henry
Born: 1875 Brunswick.
-

Charlotte
Born: 1877 Brunswick.
-

Emma Letender
Born: 1879 Brunswick.

James Edward
Born: 1881 Brunswick.
-

Lily May
Born: 1884 Brunswick.
Died: 1885 aged 08 months.

Thank you Tonkin and Janilye,
I assume that the Medical officer exaggerated the circumstances for the medical discharge of Charles including his age and loss of family members and his age for a compassionate discharge. He survives Gallipoli and gets a passage home to Australia. Only to go to England to re-enlist. He had lost his Son and had a family back in Australia. I do not understand why. I assume that he was originally excepted for his knowledge of explosives. After going through a life like this, I feel he had a bloody good innings to last 80 years.
It is the strangest service record that I have read
Thank you both

GROOM— On the 11th January, Lilly May, youngest daughter of Benjamin and Lucy Groom, Edward-street, Brunswick, after a long and painful sickness,aged 8 months.
The Age 13th January 1885 p.1

Groom.—On the 25th ult., Louisa, the beloved and
eldest daughter of Benjamin and Lucy Groom, of
Edward-street, Brunswick, after a very long and
painful illness, aged 23 years. Country papers
please copy.
The Australasian 6th March 1886 p.3

GROOM— WARNER.— (Golden Wedding.)— On the
8th December, 1858, at St. Thomas's Church, Mary-
lebone, London, Benjamln, only son of tho late
John and Elizabeth Groom, Wolverhampton, to Lucy,
only daughter of the Iate Abraham and Lucy War-
er, Marylebone, London. Home papers please copy.
Present address: 23 Falconer-street, North Fitzroy.

ROSS-GROOM.— On the 2nd December, at the
North Fitzroy Church of Christ, by Mr. J. W.
Baker, William Sinclair, eldest son of the late W.
S. Ross and Mrs. E. Ross, to Emma, youngest
daughter of Benjamin and Lucy Groom, 23 Fal-
coner-street. North Fitzroy. Present address: "Des
Moines," Lindenow, Gippsland.
The Age 26th December 1908 p.5

GROOM. — On September 27. at Addison-street,
EIwood, Benjamin Frederick, second son of
the late Benjamin and Lucy Groom; brother
of William, Rosa (Mrs. M. Swain), Charles,
Mary (Mrs W. Brown), John (deceased),
Lottie (Mrs. A. West), Emma (Mrs. W.
Ross) and Dr. James Groom (deceased).
A loyal friend and patient sufferer,
Deeply regretted.
The Age 30th September 1938 p.1

GROOM.— On the 20th March (the result of
accident), John, the dearly beloved hus-
band of Margaret Groom, 63 Best-street,
North Fltzroy, loved father of Ray Groom,
and son of the late Benjamin and Lucy
Groom, brother of William, Frederick, Rose
(Mrs. H. Swain ), Charles, Mary (Mrs. W.
Brown), Charlotte (Mrs. A. West), Emma,
(Mrs. W. Ross) and the late Dr. J. Groom
(U.S.A.). aged 62 years.
Always loved, sadly missed.
GROOM.— On the 20th March (result of an
accident), John Groom, loving father of
Ray and father-in-law of Eileen Groom,
To memory ever dear
The Age 22nd March 1937 p.1

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Charles GROOM.
Birth place: Given as Carlton.

Bride: Louisa CARLTON.
Birth place: Given as Collingwood.

Year married: 1889.
Place: Victoria. Reg #6280.

Four children located.

1. Daisy Louisa, born 1891, Collingwood, Victoria. Reg #21756.

2. Lottie Adelaide, born 1893, Collingwood, Victoria. Reg #2821.

3. Violet, born 1895, Bendigo, Victoria. Reg #18307.

4. Charles William, born 1898, Collingwood, Victoria. Reg #25528.

DEATH.

Name: Louisa GROOM.
Died: 1943 Chelsea, Victoria.
Age: 72 years.
Father: Unknown CARLTON.
Mother: Unknown.
Reg #19485.

BIRTH.

Name: Louisa CARLTON.
Born: 1873 Collingwood, Victoria.
Father: William CARLTON.
Mother: Ann MILNER.
Reg #22942.