COULD THIS BE JOE PETERS,THE BLACK FIDDLER ? (ROSEBUD,VIC., AUST.)
TALK ON CHANGE. "I will buy with you, sell with you, talk with you." ?SHAKSPEARE. "Quamquam ridentem dicere verum, Quid vetat?"?HORACE.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 5 January 1884 p 17 Article
And the talk is of Dusky Joe, who owns the pleasure boat from Rosebud, and who plays seven musical instruments.
ONE OF THE BLACK FIDDLER'S SONS SERVED IN W.W.1 AND IS LISTED ON THE ROSEBUD STATE SCHOOL ROLL OF HONOUR WHICH NOW HANGS IN THE OFFICE AT ROSEBUD PRIMARY SCHOOL.HERE'S HIS ENTRY IN MY BOOK ABOUT THE ROLL OF HONOUR.
S.PETERS
Thanks to Mal Boag for supplying information from the school register* showing that Stanley was the son of Joseph Peters the black fiddler, a native of the Cape Verde Islands** and grantee of crown allotment 21 Rosebud Fishing Village, the second block west of Durham Place, on 5-3-1873.
(*Mal Boag
Stanley Peters enrolled at Rosebud State School 1.1.1896 aged 5yr 3 months, father Joseph Peters fisherman.)
** According to G.Hunter Rogers, son of the Dromana headteacher, in his history of the Mornington Peninsula.
STANLEY PAUL PETERS’ SERVICE, BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH RECORDS.
The spelling of Stanley’s mother’s new surname is wrong in the service record.
Stanley Paul PETERS
Regimental number 11985
Place of birth Queenscliff Victoria
Religion Church of England
Occupation Labourer
Address Lenthwaithe, Fisher Street, Coburg, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 25
Next of kin Mother, Mrs M A Lewthwaithe, Fisher Street, Coburg, Victoria
Enlistment date 30 October 1915
Rank on enlistment Gunner
Unit name Divisional Ammunition Column 1, Reinforcement 14
AWM Embarkation Roll number 25/89/3
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A32 Themistocles on 28 January 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Gunner
Unit from Nominal Roll 1st Divisional Ammunition Column
Fate Returned to Australia 15 June 1919
BIRTH.
Event: births; Registration number 31803 / 1890
Family name: PETERS; Given name(s) Stanley Paul
Place of event: DROMANA, Australia
Mother's name
Mother's family name at birth WHITE
Father's Name:
MARRIAGE.
There were no wedding notices.
Event: marriages ; Registration number 8189 / 1926
Family name: KENT ; Given name(s) Ivy Clarice
Spouse's family name: PETERS ; Spouse's given name(s) Stanley Paul
DEATH.
There were no death notices.
Event: deaths ; Registration number 13175 / 1933
Family name: PETERS Given name(s) Stanley Paul
Place of event: SALE, Australia
Mother's name
Mother's family name at birth WHITE
Father's Name:
REPORT OF STANLEY PAUL PETERS’ DEATH.
On Saturday evening several dairymen at Myrtlebank, went to Lett's Beach on a fishing expedition. The party included Messrs. Stanley Paul Peters and Mr. Kent, his father
in-law. When the party were (sic) partaking of tea later in the evening, Peters declined to have any, though pressed to do so, stating he was suffering from heartburn. He almost immediately collapsed and passed away. His body was brought to the morgue at SaIe.
An enquiry will be held today. The deceased, who was a returned soldier, is survived by his widow and three children for whom deep sympathy is expressed.
(P.1, Gippsland Times, 9-1-1933.)
RECORDS OF STANLEY’S FATHER’S DEATH AND HIS MOTHER’S REMARRIAGE.
Event: deaths; Registration number 9797 / 1900
Family name: PETERS; Given name(s) Jos
Place of event: Melb E Hos, Australia
Mother's name
Father's Name:
MARY ANN REMARRIES.
Event: marriages; Registration number 3940 / 1904
Family name: LEWTHWAITE Given name(s) Thos Wm Danl
Spouse's family name: PETERS; Spouse's given name(s) Mary Ann
A VERSATILE MUSICIAN.
Stanley’s father, who bowed the violin with his left hand, was a multi-talented musician who played seven musical instruments. Remarks about Stanley, made by abbeyg in conversation with family tree circles stalwart janilye, are included in my comment under my journal* which mentions Joseph’s versatility.
*- http://www.familytreecircles.com/could-this-be-joe-peters-the-black-fiddler-rosebud-vic-aust-59498.html
on 2014-06-14 11:44:36
Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.
Comments
Information about Stanley Paul Peters, one of those listed on the Rosebud State School Roll of Honour (as S.Peters), will be entered in the journal tomorrow morning.My thanks to Mal Boag for providing information from the school register which proved that the black fiddler was his father.
Here's a bit, from Abbeyg in her conversation with Janilye, about Stanley.
Hi, Thanks for getting back to me again.
Yes Mary Ann did remarry after Joesph Peters died to Thomas Lewthwaite.
She died 24/4/1925 as Mary Ann Lewthwaite and she is bruied with her son Albert in Faulkner Cemetary.
Mary Ann and Joseph had 15 children 3 died 2 sons both named Joseph and 1 daughter named Mary. We have names and birth/ death details for all 15 children. Stanley was Mary Anns and Josephs son and we also were aware of his service details.
There are Peter's everwhere and many of Joseph's children had very large families themselves and they all seemed to spread out over the state.
We aren't to concerned about tracing the children of Joseph and Mary Ann we are more interested in finding out the truth about where Joseph and Mary came from that s why I would love to see a photo of them.
Its interesting that Stanley played football for Dromana. I'll brag to my husband that stanley was a champion football player of old but decided to serve his country rather then follow his football career. I've had to hear of my husbands great grandfathers football heroics for over twenty years. James Henry Gardiner founder of the North Melbourne Football club. We have bought every book and visited or rang every football club, council officers, streets, parks collecting photos of the man. All very English and proper unlike what my family tree is developing into.
Appreciate anything that you find on Joseph or Mary Ann. We believe Mary Anns birth details were fudged to suit the times. In fact I am exhausted looking in to Mary Ann thats why I started looking into Joseph more closely. At this stage I don't care if Mary Ann came from under a cabbage patch!
Joe Peters
from the journal of abbeyg, 2012
Has anybody any idea what number house Joseph Peters live in on Beach street, Queenscliffe?
Thanks
Has anybody any idea what number house Joseph Peters live in on Beach street, Queenscliffe?
Thanks