Family tree research for my paternal great - great grandfather and great-great grandmother, Mary Ellen Baker- married to - Archer Elijah Grimsey
AlisonParrack
My grandfather,( whom i never met, due to his death during my father's childhood), was called Archer Elijah Grimsey, 1877-1940,died aged about 63, and his wife was Mary Ellen Baker,1893-1969 died aged 76. I would appreciated any information regarding the parents of my Grandfather Archer Elijah Grimsey, for whom i have hit a brick wall. There were several Grimsey families in Stoke by Nayland/Sudbury , but they were not necessarily related, who lived in Suffolk. My late grand father Archer Elijah Grimsey B 1877, was from Sudbury, Suffolk according to the 1911 census, but beyond that i cannot trace any information that accurately leads to his parents and family.PLEASE... does anyone have any more knowledge about him that they can share ?
and .....if possible, also :
My grandmother Mary Ellen Baker B 1893 was the daughter of Ellen Annie Baker born about 1862, but i cannot find any other information about her , or when Annie Baker died, or when Annie Baker married. She was married to Joseph Baker, born about 1861, for whom also i cannot find any other information. Mary Ellen Baker had two siblings as far as I deduced from the 1911 census, these were Albert John Baker 1898 and Edward Victor Baker 1902. This is the only accurate information that i can supply regarding my late Grandmother Mary Ellen Baker B 1893, and i hope this will define who her grandparents were... and any uncles and aunts she may have had.
I am told by my mother that Mary Ellen Baker (Grandma Grimsey) was from Stoke By Nayland, and that Archer Elijah Grimsey her husband, was also from Stoke By Nayland. Both the parents of Mary Ellen Baker were also from Stoke By Nayland area,that is Annie Baker,and Joseph Baker, as already mentioned, but I do not know the maiden name of Annie Baker so cannot trace her mother and father or siblings, who would have been aunts and uncles to my grandmother, or find any further evidence of Joseph Baker's family, such as his parents or siblings.
I appreciate this is a tall order, but would be very grateful to any information that anyone could lead me to completing this family tree.
Thank you in anticipation,
Alison Parrack
I would appreciate any help in finding the relative details of this side of the family since my father passed away in 2005 and I am no longer able to source information for this side of the family.
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AlisonParrack , from Scotland now, but was born in Ipswich, Suffolk, U.K., has been a Family Tree Circles member since Oct 2013.
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noggin on 2013-10-10 03:05:06This is Archer's birth reg, if you want to be certian of his parents names you should purchase the marriage cert.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Archer Elijah Grimsey
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1877
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 532
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I believe this is the marriage of Archer's parents based on the info in the 1881 census
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elijah Grimsey
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1869
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 639
Spouse: Mary Ann Palmer
1881 England Census about Mary Ann Grimsey
Name: Mary Ann Grimsey
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Elijah Grimsey
Gender: Female
Where born: Hemingstone, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stoke by Nayland
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address: Round House
Marital Status: Married
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bures
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Elijah Grimsey 34
Mary Ann Grimsey 34
John Grimsey 10
Keziah Grimsey 8
Annie E. Grimsey 5
Archer E. Grimsey 4
William Grimsey 1
Archer's mother died in 1881
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Mary Ann Grimsey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1881
Age at Death: 34
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 298
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Elijah Grimsey remarried in 1886
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elijah Grimsey
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1886
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 803
Records on Page:
Spouses name Name ;Emily Ann London
1891 England Census
Name: Elijah Grimsey
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Grimsey
Gender: Male
Where born: Polstead, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stoke by Nayland
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke by Nayland
Town: Stoke
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bures
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Elijah Grimsey 44
Emily Grimsey 36 *** Emily is shown on the 1911 census married 24 years.
Keziah Grimsey 18
Archer Grimsey 14
William Grimsey 11
Mabel Grimsey 3
Henry Grimsey 2
Kate Grimsey 1/12
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"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Elijah Grimsey
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 06 Dec 1846
Christening Place: POLSTEAD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Grimsey
Mother's Name: Susanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06302-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919627
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elijah Grimsey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912
Age at Death: 66
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 812
noggin on 2013-10-10 03:28:25This is Mary's birth reg, if you want to be certian of her parents names you should purchase the marriage cert.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Mary Ellen Baker
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1892
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 703
1911 England Census
Name: Mary Ellen Baker
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stoke, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stoke by Nayland
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street Address: Thorrington Street, Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk
Marital Status: Single
Registration District: Sudbury
Registration District Number: 205
Sub-registration District: Bures
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household Schedule Number: 100
Piece: 10545
Joseph Baker 50
Ellen Annie Baker 49
Mary Ellen Baker 18
Albert John Baker 13
Edward Victor Baker 9
According to the census above Joseph and Ellen had been married 27yrs
They had 6 children all still living in 1911
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Joseph Baker
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1884
Registration District: Sudbury
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 841
Spous's Name Ellen Anne Peartree
1891 England Census
Name: Joseph Baker
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen A Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke by Nayland, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stoke by Nayland
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke by Nayland
Town: Stoke
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bures
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Joseph Baker 30
Ellen A Baker 29
Annie K Baker 6
Henry T Baker 2
Mabel L Baker 2/12
1901 England Census
Name: Joseph Baker
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen A Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke by Nayland, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Stoke by Nayland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
Town: Stoke by Nayland
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bures
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Joseph Baker 40
Ellen A Baker 39
Henry T Baker 12
Mabel L Baker 9
May E Baker 8 * this is Mary
Albert J Baker 3
noggin on 2013-10-10 03:32:29"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Ellen Ann Peartree
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 06 Jul 1862
Christening Place: STOKE BY NAYLAND,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Peartree
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06314-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919631, 919632
noggin on 2013-10-10 03:36:05"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Joseph Baker
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 02 Dec 1860
Christening Place: STOKE BY NAYLAND,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Father's Name: Henry Baker
Mother's Name: Esther
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06314-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919631, 919632
You should have enough info now to search futher back, If you need more just ask.
(I am not related to this family)
AlisonParrack on 2013-10-10 05:39:28Thank you very much..all this adds up and is filling the gaps in the family tree.
I am veray grateful for all your help because my father was the 11th child of 13..we were very young when his elder sibblings were alive...my memories are foggy even of those we met, it was the 60's and early 70's and then relatives began to pass over and there is lost the family history. My widowed mother will appreciate the information as nowadays being elderly..she focuses more on the past families than the present, and she lives in a confusion over the people's lives, so I am doing this for my own interest as to hand down to my children before its lost or never thought about by them and to hopefully bring my mum some clarity in her twilight.
Thank you very much.As for researching further back I will get all this detailed into my family tree and see where I'm going to continue. How far back is it possible to search generally..?
Thank you once again.
noggin on 2013-10-10 06:44:37The UK census started in 1841. Finding family before this is not easy but can be traced via parish records