grt grandmum born 1861,died in geelong 1928 mary Symons 1877, mrs William taylor, Margaret taylor born 1883 in Victoria, married Frederick dunstall grandparents to carter family, from Footscray Victoria. mum was grace linda ivy miss dunstall born 25th sept,1913. married our father Donald lindley carter 19th march , 1932. 8 kids one deceased with non hodgkins lymphoma in 2001 age 64 . mary Symons was the daughter of janet (graham) drummond mrs james Symons born 12th feb,1832 in muthill Scotland parents ann Drysdale,mrs hugh drummond, next alexander married dew or dow Catherine , 2 or 3 marriages , Catherine clark , etc