FIVE DIFFERENT WILSON FAMILIES NEAR MORNINGTON AND ARTHURS SEAT, VIC., AUST.
THE FIVE DIFFERENT FAMILIESWERE:
1.A Wilson family in Mornington from which one parent of Charles Bowman Wilson came.
2. Descendants of BONNIE WILLIAM OF DUNDEE, one of which, a "Tuerong Station" Wilson, was a parent of Charles Bowman Wilson.
3.Descendants of Sarah Wilson as detailed in Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND.
4.Descendants of butcher turned bullocky turned butcher,Henry William Wilson, and Thamer (nee Burdett, both of whom are buried in Dromana Cemetery) as documented in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA and LIME LAND LEISURE.
5.Descendants of G.M.Wilson who fought in the Boer War, married Jane,the daughter of Charles Graves Snr,(pioneer on Jamieson's Special Survey, Shoreham storekeeper and owner of "Woodlands" in the parish of Flinders.)
Re 1. I don't document families in places with historical societies but Val Wilson might have details on her excellent Mornington Cemetery website. I can't recall whether this family provided Charlie's mother or father.
Re 2. From Val Wilson's website.
John Bowman Wilson
www.morningtoncemetery.com/.../Wilson.../Wilson-John-Bowman.shtml
John Bowman Wilson,John Bowman Wilson, William Sorell Wilson (photos.)
John Bowman Wilson was born in Tasmania on the 10th of October, 1830, and arrived in Victoria in 1857 with his wife Agnes and family, to try his luck on the Castlemaine goldfields.
John was also accompanied by his brother William Sorell Wilson and his family, who were on their way to manage ‘Truganina’, a property in Derrimut, Victoria.
By 1863, the family had moved to the Mornington Peninsula where, in 1869, John and William purchased ‘Tuerong’. John certainly did not have much luck farming because he became insolvent in 1880 and sold ‘Tuerong’ back to his brother and his own son, Edwin.
The property is now largely subdivided into extensive vineyards, notably Red Hill Estate, Dromana Estate, Tuerong Estate and others. The freeway to Rosebud now passes through where the original property stood.
John Bowman died on the 13th of February, 1893, aged 62 and Agnes died a year later, aged 61. They are buried together in the Mornington cemetery.
With the exception of little Agnes Eliza Wilson, who is buried in the Castlemaine cemetery (died at age 2½ yrs), all of John Bowman and Agnes Eliza’s eleven children grew up and married and had their families, so that the Wilson family is today still well represented by the Victorian descendants of William Hartley Wilson and his wife Margaret (nee Bowman) - John and William's parents.
John’s ninth child, Chas, is also buried in Mornington Cemetery. John's grandson, Charles Bowman Wilson, who was born on 10 November 1903, became the Shire President of Mornington, and the C.B. Wilson Reserve on Wilsons Road in Mornington is named after him.
See much more in:
Stories 2 | Bonnie William - Bonnie William from Dundee
bonniewilliam.com/stories-2/
... Hastings farms of William Sorell Wilson & Family · Tuerong, Murder, Mystery, ... the Bonnie William clan to bring to our attention stories and documents about ...
Re 3. See my journals about Sarah (including how she led me to Henry Tuck),George Young and the Connells of Moorooduc as Petronella's book may not be borrowed. Names: LAURISSEN JOHNSON CHANGED TO JOHNSTONE, GOMM, CONNELL ETC.
Re 4. See sources quoted or google WILSON THAMER BURDETT GODFREY STENNIKEN to find a few of my journals about the family, and WILSON TOWNSEND MOUTH TO MOUTH for an extraordinary tale about the saving of a Wilson lad.
Re 5. Former councillor David Jarman started it all off when he suggested that I contact Peter Hemphill about the BACK TO RED HILL, adding that Peter was a "(grandson of Jerve Wilson) orchardist who served in the Boer war." Peter didn't know of any relationship to Sarah Wilson's descendants and Jean Rotherham told me to check with Bev Laurissen who was quite sure there wasn't one. I thought that Boer War records might give details about the soldier's parents but I couldn't find his service record.
That was when janilye came to the rescue.
And this is what I wrote to Peter.
Peter,
Your grandfather may not have been a descendant of Sarah Wilson, pioneer on Jamieson's Special Survey, but your grandmother was the daughter of Charles Graves, who with a partner named Brown-Lee (according to a heritage study) leased the whole survey in 1851 when Henry Dunn's lease expired.
Charles was a hawker who travelled to Melbourne to buy goods that he would sell all over the peninsula, including the Cairns family's "Little Scotland" on the north east corner of Browns and Boneo Rds. His partner in the hawking business was Mary McLear whose husband had been killed near the Plenty River at the end of 1849; she arrived on the survey shortly after Charles Graves. Young George McLear helped by taking a change of horse to Frankston when Charles was coming back from Melbourne and his brother Bill accompanied Charles on one amusing visit to Little Scotland.(Pages 99,.34-5 A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA.)
Charles bought and fenced the property at Dromana which became the McLear family's "Maryfield" before becoming a storekeeper at Shoreham and a landholder in the parish of Flinders. As soon as I saw janilye's statement that your grandfather married Jane Graves, I knew who would be her father. Two death notices for Jane's brother prove that it was Charles Graves senior, the former hawker.
by janilye on 2015-01-25 16:18:36
Good heavens all this chasing your tails when you should have asked me!!
His name was Gervaise Maison Wilson and his service number was 508.
You'll find him on the Nominal Roll page 248.
All information is held at the Australian War Memorial which is now all online or a phone-call away.
Happy Australia Day.
by janilye on 2015-01-25 16:28:37
NAME: Gervaise Mason Wilson
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880
AGE: 85
DEATH PLACE: Dromana, Victoria
FATHER'S NAME: Alfred
MOTHER'S NAME: Flora Hunt
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1965
REGISTRATION PLACE: Victoria
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 20045
SPOUSE: Christian Jane Graves married 1908
by janilye on 2015-01-25 16:50:32
I see he was listed in the electoral rolls as Gervase Mason, however on his enlistment into the 3rd. Contingent the spelling of his name was Gervaise Maison.
Private Wilson was invalided back to Australia om 2 May 1901
Off to War.
by itellya on 2015-01-25 17:46:46
Thanks janilye, you're a marvel!
GRAVES.- On the 19th September, 1929, at Corowa (N.S.W ), Charles, son of the late Charles and Jane Graves, brother of T.J. Graves, Mrs J Symonds (Flinders), and Mrs G M Wilson (Red Hill), formerly of Flinders and Mornington.
GRAVES.-On the 19th September at Barina, Corowa, Charles, beloved brother of Isabella (Mrs Symonds), Thomas, and Jane (Mrs Wilson), aged 58 years, late of Flinders, Victoria.
(P.1, Argus, 20-9-1929.)
Extract from my journal:
RED HILL NEAR DROMANA (VIC., AUST.) POST 1940 and proposed BACK TO RED HILL.
GRAVES' (c/a 15, section A,Flinders,s/w corner Punty Lane and Tucks Rd. Only 190 acres. Melway 255 J5, H6, fronting the north west side of Punty Lane with the western boundary being from the creek in the exact centre of G6 to a point almost opposite 425 Tucks Rd.In 1900, Charles Graves Snr and Jnr were assessed on 374 acres, Flinders. I cannot establish where the other 184 acres were. )
A little farther along the road toward the coast we come to "Woodlands," a property of nearly 400 acres, belonging to Mr Graves, a very old resident of the district. Besides having a large orchard and garden, the
owner of "Woodlands" goes in largely for poultry farming. Mr Graves also conducts one of the oldest storekeeping businesses in the southern part of the Mornington Peninsula. The property is in good order and crops of any sort should grow well in the rich chocolate soil.
(P.2, Mornington Standard,20-9-1902.AROUND FLINDERS.)
See A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA re Charles Graves and his business partnership with Mary McLear before moving to Shoreham.
on 2015-01-26 05:55:28
Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.
Comments
FROM BEV.LAURISSEN'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE JOURNAL "MEMORIES OF RED HILL,POST 1940".
GERVAISE WILSON (Research by Bud Wilson sent to Michael Osborne (U.K.)
James Gibbon Wilson married Jane Ester Figgis in Dublin 1828. After James died Jane went to England with her 8 children and emigrated to Tasmania,moving to Victoria in 1868. Jane died at Queenscliff in 1902. Jane's second son,Alfred Benjamin Wilson,born in Dublin 1836,married Sarah Anne (Flora) Hunt in Tasmania (and obviously remained in Tasmania when Jane,and perhaps her younger children moved to Victoria.-itellya.)Alfred's family moved to Victoria in 1888/89 and started an apple orchard business in Red Hill and Main Ridge. Alfred died at Dromana in 1926.
His second son, Gervase Mason Wilson married Jane Graves in 190(8?)and continued his father's apple orchard business. He died in 1965. His grandson (presumably Peter Hemphill about whom I wrote in the original journal) still has the one remaining orchard. The brothers of Gervaise were Reginald James Wilson (b. Launceston 1881, died Vic.1970) and Raymond Figgis Wilson (b.1882 Launceston,died Vic.1979.)The latter(presumably)was firstly a farmer in Punty Lane,Shoreham, before becoming a fitter. His name is on the 1912 Electoral Roll.
R. J. Wilson's "Wyoming Orchard" was on Tucks Rd On the Flinders side of Shands Rd, I was told on the right side.He was a bachelor,rode a motor bike and was "a different religion".Was this Reginald James Wilson? It would be interesting to check the will of Alfred Benjamin Wilson or wife Sarah Ann (Flora.)
Bev has drawn a sketch showing Gervaise Wilson* at the north east corner of Tucks and Shands Rds with Esther and Bobby Wilson's "Fernbank" to the east across Stony Creek fronting Shoreham and Shand's Rds and the Laurissens to the north. R.J.Wilson's *"Wyoming" was shown at the south east corner of Shands and Tucks Rds.
* These properties and parish maps/rates.
In 1919/20 the rate collector's writing must have been terrible unless he actually wrote the wrong surname. I transcribed selected assessments near Red Hill in the parish of Balnarring,which did not include the Laurissen's farm whose location is described in GIVING DESTINY A HAND.
GERVAIS WATSON,FLINDERS,(OWNER A.H.GREEN,CAMPERDOWN)116 ACRES AND BUILDINGS,68 A and B,BALNARRING.
ROBERT WILSON,SHOREHAM, 88 ACRES AND BUILDINGS,67 A and B,BALNARRING.
Gervais Wilson was on the north east corner of Tucks and Shands as Bev stated. Crown allotments 68AB, granted to A.Allan and consisting of 116 acres 2 roods 30 perches is roughly indicated by Melway 190 G11-12. Fernbank, 67AB, did not actually front Shands Rd which heads south east to Shoreham Rd through G.Wilson's* grant, 66A.
As 67AB totalled 107 acres 36 perches,the Laurissens probably had about 30 acres at the north end of 67A.
(*Bev. believes this was GEORGE Wilson who persuaded his widowed mother, Sarah, to move to Jamieson's Special Survey when the gold rush made rents in Melbourne too expensive. See GIVING DESTINY A HAND.)
I did not record rate records in the parish of Flinders, across Shands Rd from Gervaise Wilson but R.J.Wilson was granted crown allotment 2C of 30 acres on 5-6-1941. This was part of 2B,granted to J.Bullock on 20-11-1869 and had to be a closer settlement or soldier settlement farm, either of which could be paid off on generous terms. This was probably Wyoming Orchard and makes it extremely likely that the grantee was Reginald James Wilson. R.J.Wilson's grant was near the south west corner of Shands and Tucks Rds, not the south east as shown on Bev's sketch map, and is indicated by 276 Tucks Rd/ Melway 255 F 2-3.The south east corner was Thomas Dowling's grant.
Hi, Alfred Benjamin Wilson was first married to Emily Mary Jones in Tasmania and after her death 1874married to Sarah Hunt in 1878 and moved to Red Hill. My grandparents Alfred Wilson Millar and Mabel Millar moved to Main Ridge to start an apple orchard in 1927 there as well. Alfred Benj. Wilson is Alfred Wilsons grandfather through his first wife Emily Jane who died after giving birth to Emily Jane Wilson, my grandfathers mother who married Robert Marr Millar. The first marriage seems to have been kept a secret for some reason, I have no idea why. I believe my grandparents had a farm on the corner of Shands Rd. I do not know if this land was gifted to my grandfather by his grandfather AB Wilson or not. Appreciate any info. It is opposite the current strawberry Farm.