George Crompton Mansfield Lancashire England to Hamilton New Zealand
jamo761
This is a journal entry about my Grandfather. I did not know him as he died before my parents were married. He has an interesting life, and like his mother whom I will write a separate journal for, had many marriages.If anyone has any further information about George or any of his wives, I would greatly appreciate your comments & information.
George Crompton Mansfield
Born: 14 Feb 1894 in Broughton, Salford, Manchester, England
Baptised: Unknown
Died: 3 Nov 1962 Hamilton, Waitako, New Zealand
George Crompton Mansfield was born in Pendleton, Lancashire, England to parents Lucy Dawson & George Crompton. Although baby George has the surname Mansfield, he is from what I can tell George Crompton's son. Lucy married three times (refer to journal for Lucy Dawson), the second time to Richard Mansfield. While I currently can not find a death for Richard Mansfield, the 1891 census Lucy is a widow with Joesph, Hugh & Richard Holt her sons. George was born in Salford in 1894, but Lucy didn't marry George Crompton until 1910, but in 1901 Lucy was living with George as his servant with her sons. I imagine that the church might have set up George and Lucy, although I haven't researched this further. My logic behind George Crompton being baby George's father even though no father is named on the birth record is that three children of Lucy's born 1894, 1896 and 1898 all have Crompton as a middle name used through out their life. Baby George has Crompton on his birth certificate, therefore I believe George Crompton, Lucy's employer in 1901, was more than just an employer. I believe George, Paul & Walter have Mansfield as a last name simply because Lucy was still a Mansfield and wasn't married to George.
1901 Census, George was living with his mother Lucy, George (his mother's employer and who I believe is his father). At 7 years the census documents George and his brothers as bleachers in the Dye Works, they didn't even go to school by the look of it.
1911 Census, George is living with his mother and George Crompton in 13 Dale St in Kearsley, Farnsworth, Bolton. He is 17 and working as a moulder for an Iron Foundry.
12 July 1913 George married Lily Riley. On their marriage certificate George is 21 and Lily is 20. I imagine considering I have George's birth certificate and he was definitely not 21, that he lied about his age because in August he enlisted in the Army. So at first I thought they married because of George's enlisting, but then I found their first child, Richard born in the last quarter of 1913. So I'd say they married so young because he was enlisting and because she was pregnant.
August 1913 George enlisted with the Army, Regimental Number: 1832. George joined the Territorial Force for 4 years, the Parish is St Thomas in Pendleton, which matches. There is another George Crompton Mansfield enlistment, but the Regimental Number is : 47305 and he is born approx 1893 in St John, Lancaster, England, while the name is the same and it's an unusal name, I'm not sure this the is the same George. This George enlisted on 23 Oct 1914 for a short service of 3 years to the Royal Garrison Artillery. But I can only find a single birth record for George Crompton Mansfield between 1892 and 1896, so it could be the same person.
Oct-Dec 1913 Richard Mansfield is born
7 Jan 1914 Richard was baptised at St Peter in Farnworth
Jan-Mar 1914 Richard dies
09 March 1914 Richard is buried, he lyes in the Farnworth Cemetery, Lancashire, England
Jan-Mar 1915 Marjorie Mansfield is born
I can not find a baptism record for Marjorie, maybe there wasn't enough time for her to be baptised.
Apr-Jun 1915 Marjorie Mansfield dies
08 Apr 1915 was buried, she lyes in the Farnworth Cemetery, Lancashire, England
It seems Lily had such a very hard start to her marriage with George.
TO FIND/OBTAIN
1: Baptism - Was George Baptised or not
DOCUMENTS
1: George Crompton Mansfield Birth Certificate - Recieved
2: Marriage to Lily Riley - Received
3: Milatary enlistment record
4: Marriage to Elizabeth Babb - Received
5: Passenger List for Voyage to New Zealand - found on line
6: Marriage to Alice Mary Elizabeth Mace - received
7: Birth Certificate of Wallace Alfred Mansfield- received
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ngairedith on 2012-07-14 03:33:21George Crompton Mansfield (aged 30) and with 3s in his pocket
arrived in NZ on 23 Feb 1924 with a wife and 2 children
George Crompton Mansfied ...
* was in Whangarei in June 1925 (age 31)
- sentence was: 1 months hard labour
* was in Tauranga in Nov 1925 (aged 31)
- sentence was: 18 months hard labour
* was in Auckland Court in June 1927 (aged 33)
- sentence was: 18 months hard labour
* was in Hamilton in Oct 1929 (aged 35)
- sentence was: 1 month in prison
* was in Auckland 11 Dec 1930 (aged 36)
- sentence was: 6 months imprisonment
* was in Hawera in Jan 1931 (aged 36)
- sentence was: 2 x 18 months imprisonment (concurrant)
* was in Christchurch + Wellington in May 1937 (aged 43)
- sentence was: 5 x 6 months hard labour
* was in Auckland in May 1939 (45)
- sentence was: 4 x 6 months imprisonment & 13 x 6 months (concurrant)
George died aged 68 and is buried
Location - RSA-01-123 at Hamilton Park Cemetery
SilverVixen on 2012-10-10 11:55:44George Crompton Mansfield born Salford, Lancashire, England ; 1894 Q2 8D 55
SilverVixen on 2012-10-10 13:38:05Sorry meant to add this is the information you need for his birth certificate
jamo761 on 2012-10-10 17:18:02Thanks Margaret,
I actually need to update this journal, I requested his birth certificate and have received it. Interesting part is that there is no father named on the birth record. I'm assuming that this was because Lily was not married to George at the time of the three boys births. She didn't married George until much later, 1911 I think. I have her marriage certificate to George.
Thanks
Megan
SilverVixen on 2012-10-11 04:15:57Hi Megan, I have a few of those in my family my G G Grandmother had 5 children with "no" fathers and she lived with her brother. Not sure what to make of that a very loose woman I think.
Regards
M