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George Scott & Elizabeth Vickers, Christchurch, New Zealand

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I live in Christchurch, New Zealand. I am particularly interested in reseaching the origin of, and descendants of, George Scott and Elizabeth Vickers who arrived in Christchurch, New Zealand, probably about 1865. Elizabeth's Death Certificate in 1922, states they were married in New Zealand but there is no official record of this marrage. George died in 1877 with the oldest of six children, age eleven. They had two sons, Alfred Vickers Scott who married Grace Woolcock (ex Cornwall) and George Litson Scott who married Beatrice Mills. The daughter's married into the following families - Hull, Ball, Harris, Homes. The information of most interest, that I hope to obtain, is the origin of George and Elizabeth. Information on their Death Certificates does not help much. It is possible that George worked his passage as a ships steward as this is his occupation as shown on the Birth Certificate of their first child Emily, born 1866).

ADDED FEBRUARY 2016

Considerable research has been done since early listings. The updated data can be viewed on the home page and in persons notes of my Tribalpages.com tree.

http://amscott.tribalpages.com

Surnames: BALL HARRIS HOMES HULL MILLS. SCOTT wOOLCOCK
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on 2012-02-11 16:17:46

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by ALV on 2012-02-11 22:36:28

If she was Elizabeth Askew Scott then it is probable she came from the Ulceby/Alford district of Lincolnshire. John Vickers came to NZ in the 1870s was from Lincolnshire and there were tie ups with Askew and Keightley families. John had a younger sister, Elizabeth. His sister Ruth came to NZ as well and then went to live in Australia.

by ngairedith on 2012-02-11 22:47:08

hello amscott,

I was doing some research to see if I could be of help when I came across your brilliant family tree site at TribalPages

The photos you have uploaded into neat 'albums' are so wondeerful they need to be shared, so I am going to add a link here so that others may have the delight I did of viewing 'a life story'

Especially inspiring are the photos of your garden taken before and after the Christchurch earthquake (now 12 months ago). You obviously have a passion for gardening and a true 'green thumb'. How heart broken you must have been at the mess the earthquake made of it. YET, just a few months later we see your garden is blooming again in spite of the fact that you say they may have to dig it up to strengthen foundations. What a tenacious spirit !!!

The chronicled photos of Christchurch before and after the earthquake are indeed a good way to save 'history'. There is an amazing photo of Christchurch taken from the Port Hills just minutes after the earthquake which I have never seen before and is, in itself, an award winning photo

Then there are the paintings by Muriel Scott (nee Halligan 1896-1976) some of them done when she was in her 70s !!

A great site, well done.
Thank you for sharing it with us (not locked, although some private features need permission to view - follow the prompts)


I recommend a visit if you are researching the names
* Scott
* Unwin, family of Essex, in the SCOTT FAMILIES TREE, has been traced back to THOMAS UNWIN born Steeple Bumstead about 1525
{b]* Halligan from RICHHILL, COUNTY ARMAGH, NORTHERN IRELAND
* White
* Woolcock, JOHN WOOLCOCK and his wife, MARY ANN (nee WHITE) and seven children set out for New Zealand from Cornwall in the sailing ship "Marlborough" in 1878
* Grenville, family in England descends from Two brothers who accompanied WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR in the battle near Hastings during which King Harold was killed
Going family from WAVENDON, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, ENGLAND
Garvin
Oats
Chudley
and many others
.. or even if you just want to view the nearly 900 photos (over 550 not private), that tell a story of Christchurch and some of its pioneers

by ngairedith on 2012-02-11 22:51:51

sorry, it went before I finished :)

I recommend a visit if you are researching the names
* Scott
* Unwin, family of Essex, in the SCOTT FAMILIES TREE, has been traced back to THOMAS UNWIN born Steeple Bumstead about 1525
* Halligan from RICHHILL, COUNTY ARMAGH, NORTHERN IRELAND
* White
* Woolcock, JOHN WOOLCOCK and his wife, MARY ANN (nee WHITE) and seven children set out for New Zealand from Cornwall in the sailing ship "Marlborough" in 1878
* Grenville, family in England descends from Two brothers who accompanied WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR in the battle near Hastings during which King Harold was killed
* Going family from WAVENDON, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, ENGLAND
* Garvin
* Oats
* Chudley
and many others
.. or even if you just want to view the nearly 900 photos (over 550 not private), that tell a story of Christchurch and some of its pioneers, go to

The Scott Families Tree

by amscott on 2012-02-12 14:51:43

Hi Ngaireedith: Thank you for your comments. I am pleased that you like my Tribalpages tree. I have tried to make it interesting. Surprising what will grow in silt. Virtually all of what was my front lawn is now silt and as long as the plants get enough water they grow ss normal. I may never put down a new lawn. Will be at least 2-3 years before my house is repaired or totally rebuilt. A new foundation is reqiured and we are waiting for the land to be tested to determine what is required in the way of foundation and piles. Fortunately we live very much as normal inside the house whereas others have not been so fortunate.

by amscott on 2012-02-12 15:41:57

Hi Alv: Thanks for your response. Interesting that you mention the Vickers from Lincolnshire. There was a marriage in Hallington, Lincolnshire 19 May 1862 between a George Scott, Garburgh, and Elizabeth Ann Vickers, Hallington. I was all excited finding this marriage and obtained a copy of the marriage certificate. Unfortunately the parents names, John, in both cases, did not agree with my George Scott's death certificate. This listed his fathers name as Mark. Also my Elizabeth Vickers, according to her death cert., came from Northampton. I have further information on the Scott and Vickers families associated with the Hallington marriage if anyone is interested.

This is what I know about my George Scott and Elizabeth Vickers based on their death certificate data. Cannot guarantee it is correct, however, as New Zealand death certificates are well known for their inaccuracies up to the 1880's or 1890's.

GEORGE SCOTT

Died Christchurch New Zealand 24th July 1877.
Address was 177 Madras St, Christchurch.
Occupation: Waiter.
Father's name: Mark. Occupation Cook.
Mother's name: Ann
Lived in NZ 11 years. (came to NZ about 1865/6)
Where married: Unknown.
Age married: 33. (Therefore married about 1865)
Year born: about 1832
Where born: Unknown.

ELIZABETH VICKERS

Died Christchurch, NZ 6 Feb. 1922.
Address 177 Madras St for the whole period she lived in Christchurch.
Age at death: 77. (Therefore born about 1845
Born: Northampton.
Years in NZ: about 58. (Therefore came to NZ about 1865)
Where married: Christchurch. (Nothing in the Govt. data base for this marriage)

CHILDREN

Emily Elizabeth born 1866
Mary Ruth 1868
Alfred Vickers 1869
Sarah 1872
Eliza 1873
George Litson 1874

It seems obvious that Elizabeth did not supply the information for George's death certificate as she would have known some of the missing place names etc. When this is taken into account one could question the accuracy of the parent names for George. I was still thinking at one stage that these names might be incorrect and the Hallington marriage could remain a posibility. However I subsequently obtained information to the effect that both the George and Elizabeth from th Hallington marriage, both died in England. I was therefore no further ahead. However I will keep trying and hopefully, one day, I will obtain the correct link.

by amscott on 2016-02-12 20:45:09

Four years ago, the previous message. I am now pleased to say that considerable research has paid off and I now have the full background to George Scott and Elizabeth Vickers. There was a name change from Cott to Scott after arrival in Christchurch, NZ and no marriage. George had already been convicted in England for bigamy. His first wife was still alive and he would not have risked another illegal marriage. It is all on the home page and in the notes for George COTT alias SCOTT and Elizabeth Vickers in my tribalpages.com tree.

http://amscott.tribalpages.com

by ngairedith on 2016-02-12 21:22:11

hello again amscott ;)
4 years TO THE DAY since your last comment and what an amazing amount of work you have done on your page
Incredible info and photos ~ a lot of love went into creating/updating it

* huge coincidence that I was talking about you and your site only last week after your, yet again, recent 4.2 earthquake and your beautiful garden that was destroyed and yet has risen again!

The link to quick access:
The Scott Families Tree

by amscott on 2016-02-12 23:08:19

Hi ngairedith,

I did not realise it was 4 years to the actual day. What a coincidence. Unfortunately my garden has gone including the one that rose again. It was decided that the house was uneconomical to repair and the re-build options did not suit us. The house has been demolished and the section is to be sold. We decided to move to a different area. The new garden is small but I have made it very colourful.

The George COTT alias SCOTT outcome is a lesson on not to give up with family research. One never knows what they will find around the corner.

Looking back at the old messages reminds me just how much effort you have put into helping people.

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