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BICE of KY, IA, and California

Journal by mom510707

Hi,
I am tracking the William Cornelius Bice family from Mercer County Kentucky ( and Pennsylvania before that) Mr Bice and family and about 150 others set out from Kentucky and wandered through Indiana ( Jefferson County) where one daughter married and stayed and added to the Bear (Bair,Behr) family. THey continued on through Sacramento where a child (Edmund) was born and died) and settled in Healdsburg. Cornelius had marred Mary Jane Koger (from Virginia) They had 10 children and ran a large farm/orchard in Sonoma County. Mr Bice died in 1879. My great grandmother was Mary Florence Bice who became a Methodist missionary in Japan, where she met her husband, William Albert Davis. I would love to hear from other Bice relatives.
Ramona

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by Tomakazi on 2013-12-14 18:02:37

I am related to Cornelius Bice. My name is Tom Richardson and I grew up and still live in the Healdsburg area.

by mom510707 on 2013-12-15 10:30:53

Hi Tom,

How are you related?
My aunt and son live up that way, one in forestville and one in rio nido.
I have been in touch with other family members too.
Have you seen Felta Scjool on West side road?

Please stay in touch.. I have lots of bits and pieces I can share and would love to hear more.

Regards

Ramona

by noggin on 2013-12-15 11:11:17

According to this entry Mary Jane Koger married a Cornelius Bice in 1846 in Missouri.

How sure are you his name was William Cornelius Bice

U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
Name: Cornelius Bice
Gender: Male Birth Place: KY
Birth Year: 1816
Spouse Name: Mary Jane Koger
Spouse Birth Place: VA
Spouse Birth Year: 1827
Marriage Year: 1846
Marriage State: MO
Number Pages: 1

by noggin on 2013-12-15 11:32:27

Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002
Name: Cornelius Bice
Marriage Date: 1 Mar 1846
Marriage County: Jackson
Spouse Name: Mary J Loger (Looks liks C changed to a K on the records)
States both are of Jackson County

by noggin on 2013-12-15 11:38:46

1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Cornelius Rice [Cornelius Bice]
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1816
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1850: Sni-A-Bar, Jackson, Missouri
Gender: Male
Family Number: 1410
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius Rice 34 b Kentucky
Mary J Rice 23 b Virginia
Martha E Rice 4 all children Birthplace: Missouri
Matilda Rice 2
Phebe Rice 0

by noggin on 2013-12-15 11:53:19

1860 United States Federal
Name: Cornelius Bies
[Cornelius Rice]
Age in 1860: 43
Birth Year: abt 1817
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1860: Mendocino, Sonoma, California
Gender: Male
Post Office: Healdsburg

Cornelius Bice 43
Mary Jane 33
Martha E 13
Matilda E 11
Phebe L 9
John William 7
Samuel C 6
Sarah 3
George L 1

by noggin on 2013-12-15 11:55:37

1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Cornelius Bice
Age in 1870: 51
Birth Year: abt 1819
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1870: Mendocino, Sonoma, California
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Healdsburg

Cornelius Bice 51
Mary J Bice 42
John W Bice 18 b Missouri
Samuel C Bice 16 Birthplace of all other children California
Sarah Bice 13
Charles Bice 8
Isaac Bice 6
Mary F Bice 4

by mom510707 on 2013-12-15 12:02:43

Hi,

Yep, Pretty sure.
William Cornelius Bice went by his first name in CA.
Guess it was just easier. His father was John Cornelius Bice.
He is referred to as William in several documents.
The death certificate for His daughter lists his name as Wm. Bice.

He was referred to as William by my great grandmother, according to my Uncle and other family members.

Regards,
Ramona

by noggin on 2013-12-15 12:10:00

The births for the above seem to vary from census to census but are in the 1816-19 range. There must have been another family in Kentucky as this marriage shows:

Kentucky Marriages, 1802-1850
Spouse 1: Bice, Cornelius
Spouse 2: Brewer, Mary[Mrs]
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1823
Marriage Location: Kentucky
Shelby County

None of the children going to CA would have be old enough to marry enroute so is this the father of the daughter who married a Bear (Bair,Behr)

U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
Name: Catharine Bice
Gender: Female
Birth Place: IN Birth Year: 1821
Spouse Name: John Bair
Spouse Birth Place: IN
Spouse Birth Year: 1819
Marriage Year: 1840
Marriage State: IN
Number Pages: 1

If this is the daughter you refer to she was born before the marriage above or it was Cornelius Bice's second marriage

by mom510707 on 2013-12-15 12:20:07

Hi,
Who are you? ( just curious)
John Cornelius Bice was married to Phobe Demaree and had several children. One of these was (William) Cornelius Bice who was born in 1816 in Shelby Kentucky.
He married Mary Jane Koger and this was the Bice that traveled to CA through Indiana. Catherine ( who married Bair/Bear) was one of his daughters). William Traveled with his family, through Sacramento to Healdsburg where the majority of his children were bborn. He was involved in the squatters war , moved to town after the loss of his land, then purchased a fair amount of property on West Side road. there is the Bice ( or Koger) cemetary where he is buried there. He and Mary Jane had several children, one of who was my great grandmother, Mary.

The first born sone was John WIlliam Bice, for the grandfather John and father William.

Regards

Ramona

by noggin on 2013-12-20 05:38:19

I still think that this Catherine was not the daughter of Cornelius and Mary J Koger they married in 1846, 6 years after Catherine Bice and John Bair. If Cornelius was the father he would have been only 4/5yrs old when Catherine was born in 1821.

Marriage:
Name: Catharine Bice Birth Year: 1821 Spouse : John Bair Birth Year: 1819 m 1840

Who am I ? an Ancestry Detective.

by mom510707 on 2013-12-20 09:48:41

That Catherine is the sister of my Cornelius Bice ( Father John Cornelius). My Cornileus ( son of John) also had a daughter Catherine.
I have excerpts from the Bice Bible that I am going by as well as family history from current family and personal hand me down stories.

by noggin on 2013-12-20 10:26:55

Ok got:

Marriage:
Name: Catharine Bice Birth Year: 1821 Spouse : John Bair Birth Year: 1819 m 1840 is the sister of Cornelius and Mary J Koger who married in 1846 and their father is John Cornileus Bice.

Cornelius and Mary J Koger also had a daughter Catharine Bice at some point after their marriage in 1846.

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