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Query by gayell

James was born in 1854in New Romney Kent He married Annie Paxton who was born in 1857 I would love some more info particularly on James I have James original birth certificate so know these dates are correct Thanks Gaye

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by ALV on 2012-07-05 22:44:30

Hi check your dates as James would have been only 3 years old. :)

by ALV on 2012-07-05 22:51:01

I think this is James' christening:


name: James Campbell Ramsden
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Aug 1853
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Campbell Ramsden
mother's name: Harriet Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00840-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590


And this from the 1871 Census:

Name: James C Ramsden
Event: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: New Romney, Kent
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Romney Marsh
Sub-district: New Romney
Event Parish: New Romney
County: Kent

Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self James C Ramsden M 45 New Romney, Kent
Wife Harriett Ramsden F 49 Hydd, Kent
Son James C Ramsden M 17 New Romney, Kent
Son John G Ramsden M 14 Hydd, Kent

by ALV on 2012-07-05 23:11:36

John's middle name was George and it looks like he may have been named after James Campbell Ramsden's (the father) brother.

This is for your James Campbell's father


name: James Campbell Ramsden
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Feb 1826
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Ramsden
mother's name: Jane Nouhin Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00420-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590

by ALV on 2012-07-05 23:58:15

I have found James Campbell Ramsden Senior's parents marriage and see that it should have read Noakes not Nouhin. I have also located some other siblings as well as John's.

MARRIAGE
County Kent
Place Burmarsh
Church All Saints
MarriageDate 26 Jul 1825
GroomForename James
GroomSurname Ramsden
BrideForename Jane Noakes
BrideSurname Campbell
FileNumber 25874


SIBLINGS
name: John George Ramsden
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Dec 1827
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Ramsden
mother's name: Jane Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00840-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590

name: Mary Jane Ramsden
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 Oct 1829
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Ramsden
mother's name: Jane Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00840-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590

name: Henrietta Ramsden
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 05 Feb 1832
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Ramsden
mother's name: Jane Noakes Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00840-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590

name: Alice Ramsden
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Jun 1834
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Ramsden
mother's name: Jane Nokes Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00840-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590

name: William Albert Ramsden
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Feb 1837
baptism/christening place: New Romney, Kent, England
father's name: James Ramsden
mother's name: Jane Roakes Ramsden
indexing project (batch) number: I00840-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835590

by ALV on 2012-07-06 00:08:16

This your James Campbell Ramsden's parents marriage:

James Campbell Ramsden married Harriet Balcomb 1851 in the district of Romney Marsh(Listed in the June 1851 Vol 5 p549)

by asheppard on 2012-07-06 00:29:23

1857 Annie's birth year?

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)

Paxton Annie Elham 2a 1468
Ramsden James Campbell Elham 2a 1468

1861 Census
Lydd Kent

Household Members:
Name Age
James C Ramsden Head, 35 New Romney Kent Groom & Gardner
Harriet Ramsden Wife, 39 Lydd Kent
William T B Ramsden Son,16 Lydd Kent Ag Lab
Hennairetta E Ramsden daug,9 Lydd Kent Scholar
**James E Ramsden son, 7 New Romney Scholar (images reads James C Ramsden
John G Ramsden son, 5 Lydd Kent Scholar
Mary J Ramsden saug, 1 Lydd Kent

by ALV on 2012-07-06 02:39:32

This is probably your Annie as she was only registered in Kent between 1850 and 1860


Births Registered Dec 1858 in the district of Medway, Kent (Vol 2a p332) Ann Paxton

From 1871 Census
Name: Annie Paxton
Event: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 12
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Chatham, Kent
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Maidstone
Sub-district: Maidstone, West
Event Parish: Maidstone
County: Kent
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Mark Paxton M 47 Hanslope, Buckinghamshire
Wife Matilda Paxton F 46 Hanslope, Buckinghamshire
Daughter Ellen Paxton F 21 Rutly, Leicestershire
Son William Paxton M 17 Kentish Town, Middlesex
Daughter Mary Ann Paxton F 13 Chatham, Kent
Daughter Annie Paxton F 12 Chatham, Kent
Son Joseph Paxton M 8 Ramsgate, Kent
Daughter Louisa Paxton F 5 Northamptonshire
Son Mark Paxton M 3 Maidstone, Kent

by gayell on 2012-07-06 02:48:21

All these James Campbells get a bit confusing Apart from the JamesCampbell[1844] my Grandfather was also James Campbell[1880] & my father Ronald James Campbell Ramsden !!! what a confusion !! I really appreciate all this new information but as a novice I need to sort it all out !

by ALV on 2012-07-06 03:05:10

I had to put my thinking hat on concerning the 1861 Census provided by asheppard as I went and looked for William TB Ramsden. I had found the wedding of 1851 but a child born 6 years previously did not fit. No other possible matches for a James (Campbell) Ramsden and Harriet in the previous 10 years.

So I went looking for William. I could not find any Ramsden born in either 1844 or 1845. Then I had a brainstorm and wondered if James was not William's birth father. I then looked up William Balcomb and I found him.

Births Registered Jun 1845 in the district of Romney Marsh, Kent (Vol 5 p428) William Thomas Balcomb.

So obviously, when James Campbell Sr married Harriet he adopted him hence William Thomas (T) Balcomb (B) Ramsden.

by gayell on 2012-07-06 03:17:58

Hi Alv
Are you saying my G.G.G grandfather was not a ramsden but a balcomb?

by ALV on 2012-07-06 03:28:55

If William was your GGG grandfather yes but the information you have provided indicates to me that James Campbell Ramsden born 1853 was your GGG grandfather. If I am wrong let me know. :)

by ALV on 2012-07-06 03:35:50

William TB Ramsden was not a born Ramsden.

The other 3 children of James Campbell and Harriet were Ramsdens. That is Henrietta Eliza born 1851 (June 1851 Vol 5 p474 Romney Marsh District), James Campbell and John George.

by gayell on 2012-07-06 04:14:13

Thanks Alv Yes my G.G.G.Grandfather WAS James Campbell Ramsden so thank you for all your info

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