COOPER,FLORENCE MINNIE of ESSEX (England)
Redjen
Very stuck!!!!! Florence Minnie COOPER my great grandmother born about 1919 in Essex adopted by a Adjutant and Mrs COOPER.
Adjutant is the old title for Major in The Salvation Army of the time. Was probably an unofficial adoption.
Florence gave birth to my grandfather in 1937 at The Salvation Army Mothers Hospital in Hackney. At this time she was living with and caring for her parents both somewhat blind at Elmslea,Lascelles Gardens,Ashingdon,Rochford. In the 1950's she lived at 37 Preston rd Westcliff-on-sea; i believe the owner of the property was Alfred George GILHAM or GILLHAM.
My grandfather kept his past to himself i found all the above information myself took a punt he was born at The Mothers Hospital (Hackney) and contacted The Salvation Army and bingo i found my g/gran's name etc. My grandfather Maurice COOPER now deceased emigrated in 1952 with the Salvation Army to Australia and became a child in care working as a farmhand.
Maurice's death cert states father Herbert James COOPER and Florence's birth name been Laurie however i know the info is as good as the person giving it which was my aunt so i am very confused as to whose father was Herbert; i think most likely Florence's adopted father however this is unconfirmed.
The Salvation army cannot give me Maurice's putative father's name as there is a law preventing this however i will survive if i can find what happened to Florence and would love to know her story.
I have posted this hoping someone has her in their tree or knows of Florence Thankyou
P.S I hear it was possible Florence is or at least was still living in Essex in the 1990's. I have also attempted to obtain a birth cert for Florence with no luck.
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noggin on 2012-11-15 07:26:59I think you are going to find its difficult to find Florence Minnie COOPER's birth unless you know her surname before she was adopted. There is a law in the uk that allows Adopted children to have access to the adoption papers if it is formal adoption.
I have adopted an adopted child who has found his mothers name, but not the father.
You could try here:
www.salvation.org
or write to this address:
Salvation Herritage Centre
Hose 14
William Booth Training collage
Champion Park
London SE5 8BQ
or
http://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/uki/HeritageVisitUs
SilverVixen on 2012-11-15 07:43:36The Ships Manifest when Maurice travelled to Australia show his address in UK as
37 Preston Road
Westcliffe-on-Sea
There are two Florence M Cooper's born around the time you state in Essex
Florence M Cooper, West Ham, Essex, 1920 Q1 4A 117, mothers maiden name Culley
Florence M Cooper, West Ham, Essex, 1922 Q1 4A 638, mothers maiden name Cullender
Redjen on 2012-11-15 07:50:24I have all the info the Salvation Army can give me. Silvervixen that is correct i forgot to add Westcliff thankyou. I will look into your suggestions however i believe 1919 is the year as the hospital record states Florence was 18, still worth a look :-)
SilverVixen on 2012-11-15 10:01:28A Florence Minnie Cooper died in Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire, Q1 2006 DOB listed as 15 May 1918:
Not sure if that helps you at all
SilverVixen on 2012-11-15 12:52:48I have a marriage for Florence M Cooper to Herbert Laurie ; Rochford, Essex, 1950 Q3 4A 1819.
A Herbert Laurie died in 1961 aged 79 Southend on Sea, Essex, Q1 4A 1027
A Florence M Laurie married in 1967 : Brentwood, Essex, Cecil J Lambell, Q3 4A 1552
A Florence M Lambell died 1967, Southend on Sea aged 48 : Q4 4A 953
A Cecil John Lambell died 1973, Brentwood, Essex, DOB 19 December 1902 : Q2 4A 1141
A Herbert John Laurie was born Barton upon Irwell, Lancs 1880 Q1 8C 659