Looking for HOLDEN of Godalming, Surrey
My Grandfather:
Bernard Tomlin Holden, b. 7 May, 1889 in Godalming, Surrey, England; died 1 July, 1981 in Worthing, Sussex, England. He married Helen Heap c. 1917 or earlier, and my father, Bernard Roger Holden, was born in Leicester on 8 January, 1919. They emigrated to Canada c. 1922.
His brother, Charles Francis Holden, was born c. 1991 and died as a soldier in France on 10 October, 1915. The information on the Godalming War Memorial website names his parents as Francis Holden and Julia Maria Holden of 26, Milton Rd., Bournemouth. I have been unable to find traces of a Francis Holden in Bournemouth, but I see that there was a bootmaker in Godalming named Francis Holden, and a Major of Godalming of that name in 1903.
I am looking for more information on any of these people, including the parentage and origins of Helen Heap, and the maiden name of Julia Maria Holden.
on 2012-11-24 00:05:59
researching the family of Bernard T. Holden, b. 1889
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In the Uk 1901 census, living at Brighton Road, Godalming
HOLDEN,Francis, head, 43 (1858) Bootmaker, born Godalming
Julia Maria, wife, 42 (1859) Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk
Bernard T, son, 11 (1890) Godalming
Charles F, son, 10 (1891) Godalming
Joyce Margeurite, daughter, 7 (1894) Godalming
Doris Maryu, daughter, 3 (1898) Godalming
ROWLAND Gertrude, help, 26 (1875) Derbyshire
WELLAND Edith, general domestic servant, 19 (1882) Godalming
Francois Holden married Julia Maria QUANT Reading, Berkshire, 1888 Q2 2C 671
Bernard Tomlin Holden married Helen Heap Bury, Lancashire, 1915 Q2 8C 1367
There is only 1 Helen Heap living in Bury in the 1911 UK census at 51 Aspinall Street, Heywood, Bury
HEAP, James, head, 55 (1856+) Sub-Manager, born Rochdale, Lancs
Mary Ellen Wife, married 31 years, 55 (1856) Heywood, Lancs
Mildred Ethel, daughter, 30 (1881) Assistant Librarian, Heywood
Helen, daughter, 27 (1884) Teacher, Heywood
Frederick James, son, 20 (189+1) Gas Works Clerk, Heywood
Bessie, daughter, 15 (1896) School, Heywood
James Heap married Mary Ellen OGCEN Rochdale Lancs, 1871 Q4 8E 108
The Family consisting of Bernard [a Minister]-Helen his wife and children Roger and Eric returned to the UK in 1925 on the White Star lines '' CANADA '' departing from Portland Oregon USA via Halifax Nova Scotia to Liverpool with a proposed address of 36 Milton Road Bournemouth
Name: Bernard Tomlin Holden
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 35
Port of Departure: Portland, Oregon, United States
Arrival Date: 27 Apr 1925
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Halifax
Ship Name: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 106806
Francis HOLDEN BAp 27 Dec 1857 Godalming to George Butler HOLDEN and Eliza TOMLIN
George HOLDEN Bap 26 Jan 1817 Godalming to Lydia Frances HOLDEN of Mill Lane Godalming -he was illegitimate--it is possible a James BUTLER was the Father
George and Eliza had at least 10 children-there are many descendants
Wonderful information! Thank you!
Julia Maria's maiden name was Quant
Thank you! Much appreciated.
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My current puzzle is James Heap and Mary Ellen Ogden, who were married to each other, each born in Rochdale, Lancashire in 1856, and who were the parents of Helen Heap (1883-19600. Can't find them at all - there are so many Heaps and Ogdens in Lancashire.
From the 1st post:
HEAP, James, head, 55 (1856+) Sub-Manager, born Rochdale, Lancs
Mary Ellen Wife, married 31 years, 55 (1856) Heywood, Lancs
Mildred Ethel, daughter, 30 (1881) Assistant Librarian, Heywood
Helen, daughter, 27 (1884) Teacher, Heywood
Frederick James, son, 20 (189+1) Gas Works Clerk, Heywood
Bessie, daughter, 15 (1896) School, Heywood
James Heap married Mary Ellen OGCEN Rochdale Lancs, 1871 Q4 8E 108
If this is the correct family and Helen was b 1884 Mary Ellen (wife) cannot be her mother because she is only 31, Helen is 27. James is listed as 55 which means he was born in abt 1856 & Mary Ellen 31 in abt 1880.
Sorry misread years married for age. Ignore above post.
I suspect "Ogcen" is an error. It's a place to work from, but it doesn't seem to be leading me anywhere!