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Wharton Knips family tree Philadelphia

Query by RichWh1

I am doing research on my father's father Arthur E Wharton, who was born in England, came to the USA and married to Sofia Knips. Children are Clara, Arthur, Harold, Mae, and Sophia

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by noggin on 2014-03-13 06:25:31

Looks like there was another child:

"Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915"
Name: Richard Wharton
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 29 Aug 1910
Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 0
Birth Year (Estimated): 1910
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1910
Birthplace: Philadelphia
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Arthur Wharton
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Sophia Knips
Mother's Birthplace: United States Amer.
Address: 3045 N. C. St. Ward 33
Cemetery: Belvue
Burial Date: 31 Aug 1910
GS Film number: 1405383
Digital Folder Number: 004009150
Image Number: 00081
Reference ID: cn 22067

by noggin on 2014-03-13 06:34:20

This looks like your family in 1930 and according to the census he arrived in the USA in 1907

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951
Name: Arthur Wharton
Gender: Male
Spouse: Sophia Knips
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1910
Marriage License Number: 247290
Digital GSU Number: 4141933

1930 United States Federal Census about Arthur Wharton
Name: Arthur Wharton
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia Wharton
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England

Arthur Wharton 43
Sophia Wharton 40
Margaret Wharton 18
Edith Wharton 17
Clara Wharton 16
Hilda Wharton 13
Arthur Wharton 10
Harold Wharton 7
Sophia Wharton 4 [5]

by noggin on 2014-03-13 06:38:51

According to these war drafts he was born in Oldham, Lancashire on the 19 Jun 1886

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Arthur Wharton
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1886
Race: White
Draft Board: 31

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards,
Name: Arthur Wharton
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1886
Birth Place: Oldham, England
Residence: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

by noggin on 2014-03-13 06:43:55

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948
Name: Arthur Wharton
Arrival Date: 5 Mar 1908
Age: 21 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Merion
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Wm O Donnell
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: Oldham manchester, England
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_61


Contact in England Mother (name not given) Address looks like 19 Canning Street Oldham

by noggin on 2014-03-13 07:15:04

These are the only to census I could find with a Arthur born abt 1887 in oldham. They might or might not be your Arthur. Could not find a birth or baptism. Do have his marriage cert in the UK the fathers name is recorded ?

1891 census for the Wharton Family : 46, Neild Street, Oldham

Richard Head 1850 Cotton Spinner Oldham, Lancashire
Sarah J Wife 1848 Oldham, Lancashire
Clara Daughter 1875 Cotton Cardroom Hand Oldham, Lancashire
Ann E Daughter 1877 Cotton Cardroom Hand Oldham, Lancashire
Louisa Daughter 1879 Oldham, Lancashire
Florence Daughter 1882 Oldham, Lancashire
Arthur Son 1887 Oldham, Lancashire


1901 England Census about Arthur Wharton
Name: Arthur Wharton
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Richard Wharton
Mother: S Jane Wharton
Birth Place: 42 Eldon Street Oldham, Lancashire, England

Richard Wharton 50
S Jane Wharton 53
Clara Wharton 26
A Ellen Wharton 23
Louisa Wharton 21
Florence Wharton 19
Arthur Wharton 14

by noggin on 2014-03-13 07:51:13

This could be his christening abt a month after his birth on 19 Jun 1886:

"England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910"
Name: Arthur Wharton
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 21 Jul 1886
Event Place: St Luke, Miles Platting, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Richard Wharton
Mother's Name: Sarah Jane Wharton
GS Film number: 2357640
Digital Folder Number: 004497922
Image Number: 00256

Miles Platting is about 6 miles south of Oldham on the A62 road into Manchester. I know the area having worked there in the 1980s

"England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910"
Name: Richard Wharton
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Mar 1874
Event Place: St Mary, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Wharton
Spouse's Name: Sarah Jane Needham
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Needham
GS Film number: 2356229
Digital Folder Number: 004484325
Image Number: 00855


This may be his birth registration based on the Christening in Preswich and the Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1886. he was born in June and births had to be resistered within 6 weeks

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Arthur Wharton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1886
Registration district: Prestwich
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 360

All the posts have been found on the web you really need to have his fathers name on some Document you have in your possion to confirm all the above.

by noggin on 2014-03-13 08:09:43

You could try these sites to see if there is more info on his records when he arrived in the USA

http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/passenger-arrival.html#film

http://genealogy.about.com/cs/philadelphia/

www.google.co.uk/#q=Philadelphia+Passenger+lists+free&revid=1298548128

by RichWh1 on 2014-03-15 11:23:48

Thank you very much for the info! It sounds like it is my grandfather who came from England in the early 20th century and died in 1945, the year my sister was born.

by RichWh1 on 2014-03-16 00:16:23

I don't have any documents on my grandfather's father or his family in England, except his sister lived there and married Whitaker. He died and she married a Harrison in the same area.

He had 4 sisters, Clara, Florence, Ann, and Louisa. Not sure which one married into this family.

by noggin on 2014-03-17 18:13:34

The sisters listed above are the same as the sisters below so it look like you family. Do you need any other info on the UK family ?

Census 1891
Richard Head 1850 Cotton Spinner Oldham, Lancashire
Sarah J Wife 1848 Oldham, Lancashire
Clara Daughter 1875 Cotton Cardroom Hand Oldham, Lancashire
Ann E Daughter 1877 Cotton Cardroom Hand Oldham, Lancashire
Louisa Daughter 1879 Oldham, Lancashire
Florence Daughter 1882 Oldham, Lancashire
Arthur Son 1887 Oldham, Lancashire

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