John David Murray born 1868? was my great grandfather and his daughter Gladys Sidilla was my grandmother she was born 1894 died 1950 Gladys married Edward Burton Mumby 1918 very interested in what she looked like and a bit of history, I know Glaadys was < :: FamilyTreeCircles.com Genealogy
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John David Murray born 1868? was my great grandfather and his daughter Gladys Sidilla was my grandmother she was born 1894 died 1950 Gladys married Edward Burton Mumby 1918 very interested in what she looked like and a bit of history, I know Glaadys was <

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married twice and put my dad and brothers into a boys home in Eltham Taranaki NZ any info would help thanks

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by janilye on 2017-06-24 04:16:53

MUMBY marriages in N.Z.
Edward Burton MUMBY was born in 1883, one of thirteen children
TARANAKI DAILY NEWS, 13 MAY 1918
MARRIAGE.
MUMBY—MURRAY.-On May 8, 1918, at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford, by the Rev. C. W. Howard, Edward Burton, second son of Robert Mumby, Esq., Auckland, to Gladys Sidilla, eldest daughter of J. D. Murray, Esq., Stratford.

by janilye on 2017-06-25 00:21:15

Pity! I thought I might have found a wedding photo somewhere.
Here's a bit more detail for your readers.
TARANAKI DAILY NEWS, 13 MAY 1918
Stratford, May 10. WEDDING. A quiet but pretty wedding took place at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford, on May 8, when Mr. Edward B. Mumby, second son of Mr. Robert Mum by, Auckland, was married to Miss Gladys Siddilia Murray, eldest daughter of Mr. .]. D. Murray, Stratford, the officiating minister being the Rev. C. W. Howard. The bride, who was given away by her father, wore a pretty white dress of accordion-pleated chiffon and silk, with satin girdle and the orthodox veil and orange blossoms. She carried a beautiful bouquet of tuber and Queen Alexandra roses, with maidenhair and asparagus fern. The bridesmaid. Miss Edith K. Murray (sister) wore a white silk smocked jumper and skirt, with black plush and pink crepe-de-chine hat, and carried a bouquet of double pink cosmos and maidenhair fern. Mr. H. Robinson (Eltham) was attendant on the bridegroom. At the wedding breakfast, given by the bride's parents, the usual toasts were honored, after which Mr. and Mrs. Mumby left per motor car for Hawera, en route to Auckland and Rotorua, where the honeymoon will be spent. The bride's travelling outfit consisted of a neat tailor-made costume of navy blue serge, with hat to match. The bridegroom's present to the bride was a handsome set of furs, and to the bridesmaid a gold bangle. The bride's present to the bridegroom was a gold pendant. The wedding presents were both handsome and useful.

Might be someone out there can help you.
Good luck HH.

by janilye on 2017-06-25 00:52:25

Oh I see now, Edward Burton Mumby was married twice.
So Gladys was the step-mother. well unless she had children of her own there wouldn't be anyone with a pic.
Marriages:
1906/1681 Charlotte Louisa Darten Edward Mumby
1918/3010 Gladys Siddilia Murray Edward Burton Mumby
BIRTHS:
1906/4016 Mumby Richard Burton Charlotte Louisa Edward Burton
1913/3356 Mumby Lawrence Russell Charlotte Louisa Edward Burton
DEATHS
1917/10237 Mumby Charlotte Louisa 43Y

by historyhunter on 2017-06-25 19:34:41

This information is awesome, thank you so much

by janilye on 2017-06-25 21:27:05

Yes! no other researcher that I can see shows Charlotte as the first wife and mother of Lawrence and Richard. BTW on the marriage reg. the surname of Darten is shown which is a transcription error. The surname is SARTEN.Some had Charlotte louisa's older sister Alice Maud Matilda SARTEN as Edward's first wife I can assure you this is incorrect. Alice Maud Matilda SARTEN died at 5 months of age in 1870.
NZ.BD&M. BIRTHS:
1874/17385 Sarten Charlotte Louisa Mary Ann Maria Levin
another error above, Her father was LEVI SARTEN and mother is Mary Ann Maria, nee MOON they married in NZ in 1860.
Children were :-
John Edward b: 1860; George Herbert, 1862; Alice Louisa, 1863; Mary Ann b: 1865; Ernest John, 1867; Alice Maud Matilda, 1870; Arthur Edmund, 1871 reg.as SARTIN; Charles William, 1872; Charlotte Louisa, 1874; Percy Philip, 1876; Louis Albert, 1877; Sidney Edgar, 1878; Harold Darcy. 1881; Leonard Llewelyn, 1883; Norman Leslie, 1887;

Here's some more proof
DEATH.
HAWERA & NORMANBY STAR, VOLUME LXXII, ISSUE 0, 8 JANUARY 1917
MUMBY.—On January 7th, 1917, at Mountain Road, Eltham, Charlotte Louisa, beloved wife of Edward Burton Mumby; aged 42 years.
FUNERAL NOTICE.
The funeral of the late Charlotte Louisa Mumby will leave her late residence, Mountain Road, Eltham, for the Eltham Cemetery on TUESDAY, January 9th, at 1.30 p.m. MANLEY & TOWERS, Eltham.
ELTHAM.
HAWERA & NORMANBY STAR, VOLUME LXXII, ISSUE 0, 11 JANUARY 1917

U.A.O.D.
At the regular meeting of the Druids' Lodge, held last night, a vote of condolence was passed with Bro. Mumby in his bereavement through the death of his wife.

by janilye on 2017-06-25 21:59:17

Levi Sarten, is said to be the first European child landed by the first ship to New Plymouth on March 31, 1841. His mother was ill and left the ship earlier than the other passengers Levi was a babe in arms.
Passenger list WILLIAM BRYAN 1841

by historyhunter on 2017-06-26 19:50:08

Thank You I do know that Edward deserted Gladys and the children and he took his first 2 boys to Australia to live and dropped the Mumby surname and went under Burton, their he re married, Gladys gave up their children put them into boys home Eltham, then Gladys re married to Frederick James Richards 1934 their first child I am not sure if he is a Mumby or a Richards as of the dates, very interesting. Thanks again, this information has made me more hungry to search more,

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