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REVIEW OF ROSALIND PEATEY'S "SETTING THE SPIRIT FREE; THE PIONEERS OF THE SOUTHERN MORNINGTON PENINSULA" (VIC., AUST.)

by itellya Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2017-08-31 15:21:25

Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.

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by itellya on 2017-09-04 14:59:26

The journal has been finished but the additions of the last four hours would not submit so the whole journal was copied into a word file which will be supplied if requested in a private message with email address provided.

by itellya on 2017-09-04 21:36:45

End of NEW INFORMATION.
Page 58.EDWARD LATROBE BATEMAN.
"A cousin of the Lieutenant Governor, he arrived in Melbourne in 1852, staing at Dr. godfrey Howitt's home on the corner of Collins and Spring Sts, which seemed to be a place where the door was open to many new arrivals in the colony, especially artists. Howitt first welcomed his brother, William a writer/ editor, who came with his son Alfred, and the poet R.H.(Orion)Horne. Later in 1852, Thomas Woolner, a sculptor stayed there with his friend, E.Latrobe Bateman, an artist of broad talents-book iluuminator, architect, garden designer and interior decorator. Latrobe Bateman stayed in the colony the longest of this group of artists. He painted wildflowers, birds, designing gardens, sketching houses*. He designed the gardens for the Ward Coles** of Brighton and Mrs Cobram of South Yarra. The State Library and its interior.......... He designed Barragunda and Heronswood."
(*Such as the original Cape Schanck homestead. ** Andrew McCrae's sister married George Ward Cole.)

Once again Rosalind had included information that nobody else has mentioned in published Mornington Peninsula History. Under P.58 in ERRORS, I have mentioned again that Robert Anderson's wife was Dr. Godfrey Howitt's daughter, not John Barker's daughter and provided search terms for the Fingal Parish map. On this map are shown crown allotment 9A and 9, granted to E.L.Bateman and A. Haddow respectively, and in an effort to find a reference to A.Haddow being a shepherd on Barragunda, I stumbled on an article which confirms Rosalind's information above and includes Bateman's sketch of the original Government House.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205417818

Page 59. Residents in Rosebud in 1850. A better heading would have been EARLY ROSEBUD RESIDENTS.
The early fishermen at Rosebud only got a mention in the papers when they drowned. The first rate book was in 1864 but fishermen weren't rated until 1873 after they bought their Rosebud Fishing Village Blocks. Therefore,I would love to know where the information about Antonio Brata (arrived 1850) came from. There was an Antonio Latros and another possibility, Antonio Bosina resident on the foreshore for decades until he became blind, who mortgaged his fishing boat to Captain Adams, probably to build a house on 858 Point Nepean Rd, later occupied by the La Bella hero, William John Ferrier, and after 1915 demolished (except for the chimney) by George Fountain who built the current house and extended Jack Jones row of pine trees in 854-6 into 858. Alexander Forbes did have a curing business. Fort Lacco's grant on the west side of Durham Place became the residence of his sister in law, Emily Durham. Fort Lacco, Andrew Nicholls Joseph Silver (Silva!)and Fred Vean (Vine) were fishermen, as were all the purchasers of fishing village blocks in 1872 and 1873. Robert White, grantee of c/a 11 in the fishing village, the eastern 18 metre frontage of the Banksia Point complex, was the father in law of Henry Bucher. Therefore "Descendants of Adams, Bucher & Lacco are still living here" should include WHITE as well.

As mentioned previously there is no proof of Henry Everest Adams' arrival in 1842. The following advertisement in 1877 could indicate that he arrived in 1857 but this might mean when he ceased his seafaring life and became a landlubber. The mysterious Isaac White may have selected crown portion 19 (which for some unexplained reason was withdrawn from the land available for selection) circa 1850 so he could look after Eliza May and young Robert Henry Adams while Henry was on his trading voyages.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/198310320
PRELIMINARY NOTICE.
On an Early Day.
It not Previously Disposed of by Private Contract.
PARlSH of WANNALUE,
Near Dromana, Close to Arthur's Seat, on the Main
Road to Sorrento.
BYRNE, VALE and Co. have received instructions
from Captain Adams (who is retiring, after a
residence in the district of 20 years) to sell
The following valuable properties-

Page 60. Residents in Wannaeue in 1864. Well known names won't be copied here but I will provide some comments. I believe that Clark James should be Charles James, father of Bullocky Bob White, who married Janet White and had selected land near Barkers Rd. Edward Ford of Boneo does not seem to be a son of James Sandle Ford of Portsea and the Wannaeue Estate. Glass was Hugh Glass, grantee of c/a 14 Wannaeue between First Avenue and Boneo Rd which became Hindhope (northern half) and The Thicket. James Purves was the manager of Tootgarook Station and son of Peter,later of Greenhills on Purves Rd, not the absentee owner. James Patterson was said to have come with Robert Cairns in 1852, was a limeburner in 1865 and moved to Pattersons Rd, Fingal in the early 1870's. Trivadale was Dr Tweeddale of Essendon who was granted c/a 1 of section A, Wannaeue, between Old Cape Schanck Rd and the now-closed Grasslands Rd, south to Browns Rd. Warren was the grantee of c/a 18 between Adams Avenue to Jetty Rd who sold it to Charles Blakey, a pound keeper at Somerton who sold lot 86, 2 acres on the F.J.'s corner to Jack Jones and the remaining 150 acres to Robert White (see above) in 1875. White called it Menstries Hill, dying there in 1881, and it was inherited by his son, Blooming Bob White. Woolcote was Robert Richard Woolcott who subdivided c/a 17 between Jetty Rd and the line of Norm Clark Walk and sold lot 76 to George and Susan Peatey in the late 1870's.

by itellya on 2017-09-04 22:15:15

End of ERRORS.
I accidentally deleted the page 58 ERRORS information from the word document. Rosalind had repeated the claim that Robert Anderson's wife Edith was a Barker rather than Godfrey Howitt's daughter.Carrier Harry Cairns later owned Edward Latrobe Bateman's C/A 9A, Fingal and married Margaret Haddow whose father was William Haddow, probably related in some way to A.Haddow, grantee of c/a 9. These grants and those of Godfrey Howitt and J.B.Were can be seen on the Fingal parish map. Google FINGAL, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON and click on the first result.

by itellya on 2017-09-04 22:33:03

The word file mentioned in the first comment has now been deleted as all of the information that would not submit in the journal has been pasted (or summarised) in comments 2 and 3.

by HH5647 on 2017-09-11 07:03:39

Ray, Thanks for this summary of Rosalind's book and your comments. I could never figure why someone had recorded Purves's Pre-Emptive right and stuffed up Smythe's 1841 map. Also, with George Smith at Capel Sound, after the Cain girl was found near Cameron's place they took her past her home into the care of Mrs Hobson.
I'm building up references for another series of trips to PROV, you never know what you will find. I hope to find what lead Hollinshed to record the name 'Dean' on that map in Lime, Land and Leisure. Bob Kerr.

PS: At some stage soon I'll revisit an earlier conversation we've had re James Clelland Pigdon.

PPS: Is it the "Ripponlea" Thomas Monahan mentioned on this map: digital.slv.vic.gov.au/dtl_publish/simpleimages/47/1077023.html ? If so, he appears in the same FT as Charles Dean. As does Alfred England, who also had land on the Peninsula.

by itellya on 2017-09-11 13:58:24

Pioneers often named a property they owned after another property they owned or an area with which they were associated but whether he'd given this name to his grants in the parish of Fingal could only be determined if he stated that it was at Fingal or near Cape Schanck.

Thomas Monahan owned much of today's Ripponlea by 1856 and is the first of the settlers mentioned in RIPPONLEA

by itellya on 2017-09-11 14:05:42

The link isn't working for some reason. Google Thomas Monahan, Ripponlea and select this result.
The Village - City of Port Phillip: Heritage
heritage.portphillip.vic.gov.au/files/b37d7113.../HISTORY_OF_RIPPONLEA.pdf
Ripponlea Primary School whose talented students of Grades Three and .... By 1856 they had sold the land to Thomas Monahan who acquired most of.

by itellya on 2017-09-18 19:19:21

ROZ PEATEY'S VISIT.
Thanks so much to Patricia Chadwick for bringing Rosalind to my home yesterday morning. She's hard of hearing and has picked up a cold but her memory is still great. Roz was the president of the now defunct Rosebud and District Historical Society and had negotiated access to the Boneo Cemetery with the owners of the land on which it is situated. She'd also written PINE TREES AND BOX THORNS, a history of the Peatey family, which greatly aided my peninsula research when started in August 2010. Lately I have discovered another of her books, written in 2004.
She told me a great story of how the Jennings family established a toe-hold for their Rosebud dairy that she'd been told by Jack Jennings. She confirmed that lot 76 of crown allotment 17, purchased by George and Susan Peatey in 1878 and occupied from 1888, indeed fronted Jetty Rd and was surrounded by blocks purchased by Robert McDowell. Therefore this two acre block fronted the south corner of Jetty Rd and Jetty Rd as far east and south as the present Netherby frontages in McDowell St and Jetty Rd. It was later divided into four blocks with Rosalind's parents occupying the westernmost one, adjoining Netherby.
The Rosebud Historical Society had installed a plaque on the wall of Mitch Lacco's boat building shed when it had become a garage. Surely the shire would have been aware of this, so what happened to the plaque when the building was demolished? In fact why did the shire allow this building to be demolished for the construction of Tasman Meats when it was a vital relic of Rosebud's SHIP-BUILDING INDUSTRY as it is strangely called in one of the shire's Thematic Heritage Studies?
The above will be emailed to Cr. David Gill to see if a history board indicating the location of the Lacco block within the Tasman Meats site detail of the family's prominence among wooden boat builders and photos of the boat shed fronting Mitchell St and the Lacco house fronting Pt Nepean Rd can be installed in a prominent position with the cooperation of Tasman Meats.

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