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John Eather died in Melbourne 1877

Journal by janilye

According to the inquest into the death of John Eather, in Victoria, Australia.
He was born in Kent, approximately 1791
Victoria BD&M DEATHS
Record information
Event registration number 8531
Registration year 1877
Personal information
Family name EATHER
Given names John
Father's name U
Mother's name
Place of birth ENGLAND
Place of death
Age 86
__________
He died in his room at Ercildoune on the 13 August 1877
Cause of death was Serous Apoplexy.
According to witnesses he was not married.
He owned land at Weatherboard Hill, Learmonth, Victoria
I submit the Inquest proceedings with witness statements
Witness, Patrick Morgan, had known John Eather for fourteen years. He thought John Eather
was 88 years of age which puts the birth date at 1789.

I am trying to find out more about this man
There were 10 HEATHER's transported
1 was Samuel Heather on the Morley.
Then there were 2 John HEATHER's one, convicted at Kent assizes given 7 years and sent out on the 'Caledonia' to Van Diemen's Land in 1820. He received certificate of freedom in March 1827 but was back in trouble in Tasmania in 1831.
The other John HEATHER convicted in Surrey Assizes transported on the 'Malabar' 1821

Surnames: EATHER
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by janilye Profile | Research | Contact | Subscribe | Block this user
on 2018-05-02 12:37:52

janilye - 7th generation, Convict stock. Born in New South Wales now living in Victoria, carrying, with pride 'The Birthstain'.

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by janilye on 2018-05-03 03:20:18

Yes I did look at that. The John Eather who was the son of Robert Eather formerly Heather 1758-1837 and Charity TIMMONS, nee Williams 1759-1815 was born in 1789 at Saint Pauls Cray, Kent, England. I have his DEATH as 4 MAY 1817 at Saint Pauls Cray, Kent, England
He is my 1st cousin 5x removed. Now the EATHER's were all formerly HEATHER the 1st a convict transported here in 1790. I may have that death date of 1817 in Kent wrong. Because each generation has a Robert, John and Thomas I cannot be sure. He could be a distant cousin. However he knew enough about my family to adopt the name EATHER rather than HEATHER. Thank you, I think I need to find that 1817 death reg.

by janilye on 2018-05-03 04:11:24

John Heather was born in 1784 at Saint Pauls Cray, Kent, England and baptised in 1789 according to my tree.
This is what I have about the HEATHERS, Robert and Charity
Young Robert Heather, twenty-one years old when he lost his father, wasn't content to stay in the district where he had grown up and to take whatever labouring jobs that came his way. In the early 1780s he went off down to Devon. During his travels down there he befriended a young widow named Charity Timmins, who had a small child. Charity Williams had gone to sea with her sailor husband, William Timmins, and the baby had been born at sea. Her husband had died and she had found herself and child back at Plymouth with no great prospects of earning their keep. It was at this stage of her life that she met Robert and they established what appears to have been a de facto relationship. Robert didn't find it easy to obtain employment in the busy harbour-side city, and by the autumn of 1783 he was so short of money that he applied to the local churchwardens for relief. At that time every person in England had a legal place of settlement, usually the place where he or she had been born and reared. If he moved to some other parish he could apply, after having lived there for a year and a day, to have that parish declared as his legal place of settlement. Robert found himself caught up in the procedures relating to legal settlement. When questioned by the churchwardens at Plymouth, he stated that his legal place of settlement was the parish of St Paul's Cray in Kent. He and Charity and her child were then passed on from churchwarden to churchwarden through the various parishes between Plymouth and St Paul's Cray. Each churchwarden signed for them and then passed them on to a churchwarden in the next parish, who did likewise. For Robert and Charity it must have been as humiliating as it would have been for any other unfortunate couple going through this routine. By the beginning of 1784 they were at St Paul's Cray, and on 5 January that year Robert appeared before two Justices of the Peace, John Cator and Benjamin Harenc, in the Petty Sessions of the Bromley division of Kent, for a settlement examination. During the examination, Robert claimed, while giving evidence, that he had met his present wife at Plymouth that they had been legally married in Plymouth Old Church, and that he had no children by her. Apparently he satisfied the Justices of the Peace that St Paul's Cray was his legal place of settlement. A few months later a son was born to Charity and Robert, and was duly baptised in the parish of St Paul's Cray on 18 April 1784. The old tradition was maintained and the child was named Robert, at least the sixth in succession of the eldest son to be given that name. At some time during the next year Robert Heather took up new employment in the neighbouring parish of St Mary Cray, just a few miles away. On 4 December 1785 Robert and Charity were married in the church at St Mary Cray. Their decision to become legally married might have been prompted by the fact that Robert had been summoned to face another settlement examination. The reason for this second settlement examination is not clear. Robert was then employed as a labourer in the parish of St Mary Cray, so he would not have been applying to the parish for poor relief. Perhaps they had been residing in St Mary Cray for a year and a day and Robert had applied for that parish to be declared his place of legal settlement. On 5 December 1785. the day after their wedding, Robert and Charity both attended the examination before the Justices of Peace. In answer to questions, Robert stated that he was residing in the parish of St Mary Cray and was working as a labourer. He also stated that his place of legal settlement was St Paul's Cray. He stated too that he was legally married to Charity Williams, a single woman. Charity was questioned also and stated that she had one lawful child by her late husband, William Timmins. The child was about four years old and had been born at sea. She stated also that she had one illegitimate child, named Robert Heather, born in St Paul's Cray, and about two years of age. Both Robert and Charity were unable to sign their respective signatures required on the record of examination and instead made their marks (crosses). It seems that Robert and Charity were not placed in the hands of a churchwarden for return to St Paul's Cray, and that they continued to reside in St Mary Cray for at least some months after the examination. A second son was born in 1786 and baptised with the name of Thomas in the church at St Mary Cray. In a year or two, however, Robert and Charity Heather did return to St Paul's Cray and settled down there. Three sons. John, baptised 29 March 1789; Stephen, baptised 8 January 1792. and Samuel, baptised 17 May 1795, were born to them and all three baptisms took place in the church at St. Paul's Cray.

by janilye on 2018-05-03 04:30:49

no something is wrong; 1st there is the child to TIMMINS born abt 1780.
Then Robert born 1784, died 1852, Thomas born 1786 , died 1832, John must be 1787, Stephen born 1792 died 1861 and Samuel born in 1795 died 1841.
Now I had John dying 4 May 1817 in Saint Pauls Cray, Kent, England .
So it is about proving that death date.

by janilye on 2018-05-03 06:49:13

Perhaps he was transported as well. His brother Samuel was transported for Larceny on the Morley in 1818 from Maidstone, Kent. He died in NSW.
I have I have reams of research on this family inc. wives and children. Except John so he probably didn't die in Kent.

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