John married Elizabeth HOPKINS in Oswestry Shropshire, known children were Elizabeth born 1827 Duddlesbrooke and Margaret born 1832, Oswestry. Margaret appears to have been baptised in Wales,on census info her sister Elizabeth has an illegitimate daughter Elizabeth Ann who was born in Denbigh, Wales. On the 1851 census Margaret was living as housekeeper to her father, a widower.On subsequent censuses John has daughter Elizabeth and grand daughter Elizabeth Ann living with him.

Margaret married in Australia in 1853 to Samuel James of St Ewe Cornwall.