Looking for DEZINA WHITTLE SANDLIN'S parents
azsunbird2010
My great-grandmother Dezina Whittle Sandlin's parents have proved to be quite a mystery to me. My mother's story is that Dezina's mother was a Noe who met and married Whittle in South Carolina and moved to Alabama prior to the War Between the States, aka, The Civil War. They had two daughters, Nancy and Dezina. Whittle died in battle. Noe married a widower, Bullard and had a daughter by him, Mary. Bullard died and she then married a man named Gilbert and they had a son named Alexander. My grandfather, Hardy M. Sandlin, described his mother as the third born of six children and said her father was killed during the War Between the States. Records proved my mother's story to be completely inaccurate.
In the 1860 census from Lamar Co. AL I found Dezina(b. 1854) living with Alexander and Margaret Gilbert (b. 1830) along with children Mary (b. 1848), Nancy (b.1852), Thomas (b.1858), and John (b. 1859).
Alexander Gilbert Sr. was killed in 1862 during a battle at Corinth MS.
In the 1870 census I found Alexander Gilbert (b. 1862) living with his mother, Margaret and siblings Joseph (b.1849), Nancy, Dezina (b, Thomas, and John. No clue if Joseph was a Bullard or a Gilbert or a Whittle.
In the 1880 census I found Alexander living with his mother Margaret so she was still using that name 18 years after Alexander Sr. died.
Therein lies many problems. If the names are correct, Dezina's mother would have been married to Bullard first. I found at Family Search a Mary Bullard born in 1848 whose parents were listed as George and Nancy Bullard.
Margaret was married to Gilbert during the Civil War and he was killed during the war, therefore she couldn't have married the men in the order my mother had them listed.
Dezina was using the name Whittle when she married my great-grandfather, Harmon Sandlin. Their marriage license shows they were married in the home of Nancy Gilbert in 1872. When Dezina's sister Nancy married, she also used the name Whittle.
To add another twist, I found via Find-A-Grave, Nancey Margrett Noe Gilbert 1820-1888 buried in Wesley Chapel Cemetery in Detroit AL. It is enough to drive me mad.
I tried to order Dezina's death certificate, but the State of AL couldn't find one. I ordered Alexander Gilbert's death certificate but his son gave them no information about his grandparents, Alexander and Margaret. Does anyone have any suggestions? I mean other than to give up?
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allycat on 2010-04-24 11:16:47Maybe Rootschatters could help you? Register as a new user, then scroll down to their board 'Research in other countries' and post a lookup request at childboard 'United States of America : Emigrants, Immigrants and others: Family History research in the United States'[/url].
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azsunbird2010 on 2010-04-25 11:50:04Thank you for your suggestions. I have checked for other people looking for Dezina's parents at a few other sites and most people seem to get stuck going backwards with her. I may have to save my pennies and take a trip to Alabama.
Donna0777 on 2014-12-02 16:12:20Hi there. I believe the Joseph sibling b. 1849 is my ggg-grandfather - Joseph F "Joe" Bullard.
This week I received an email from Jesse Gilbert, a DNA cousin. He provided me with information on Joseph's mother (prior to his email, Joseph was a dead end for me). Here is part of his email: I have info on Joseph Bullard's mother. She married my great grandpa Alex Gilbert (her third husband (died in Civil War near Vicksburg), she was also married to a Bullard (Joseph's dad) and a Whittle - her name is Noe and I have traced that line to 1600's.
Nancey Margrett Noe Gilbert appears to be the mother of my ggg-grandfather (I've connected to other Descendants of this Noe family through my Ancestry DNA results, so I believe I am on the right track, thanks to Jesse's information).
Jesse also believes her birth year is incorrect on her gravestone, he believes it should be 1830.
Based on his information, she married Unknown Bullard 1st, then W.R. Whittle, then Alexander Gilbert.
I hope this helps. If you have any new information since posting your message, I would love to see it!
wizard28 on 2014-12-02 18:07:31Dezina Elvira Whittle Sandlin
Memorial
Birth: Mar. 16, 1854
Death: Feb. 19, 1937
Family links:
Spouse:
Harmon H Sandlin (1850 - 1923)
Children:
Daniel Clements Sandlin (1874 - 1965)*
Laura Louella Sandlin Hughes (1884 - 1956)*
Geneva Bell Sandlin Parker (1896 - 1967)*
Inscription:
A Loving Mother
Burial:
Pine Springs Cemetery
Sulligent
Lamar County
Alabama, USA
......................................................................................
Link to marriage cert.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=41137712&PIpi=20840735
Link to grave stone
wizard28 on 2014-12-02 18:23:09Alabama, Marriage Collection, 1800-1969
Name: Desina E Whittle
Spouse: Harmon Sandlin
Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1872
County: Lamar
State: Alabama
Performed By Title: Minister Gospel
Performed by Name: J M Barnes
Source information: Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research
wizard28 on 2014-12-02 18:29:03According to the death cert Dezina's parents were Joe Whittle and Margaret Noe.
Missed from above: Link to grave stone
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=41137712&PIpi=63201638
Dezina is buried in Burial:
Pine Springs Cemetery
Sulligent
Lamar County
Alabama, USA
She died in Laurel. Miss.
azsunbird2010 on 2014-12-07 18:21:18Hi,
I just wanted to let you know I have also exchanged some emails with Jesse Gilbert and I believe Nancey Margaret Noe Gilbert was the mother of Nancy Whittle Lee and my great-grrandmother Dezina Whittle Sandlin. Earlier this year, I asked my aunt where Dezina died and I was able to obtain her death certificate. Her father's name was Joe Whittle. The lady who set up Dezina's memorial page emailed me a copy of her marriage certificate with Harmon Sandlin. Dezina and Harmon had 11 children. I appreciate you sharing this information with me. This is just speculation, but one of my cousins thinks Nancey might have been the daughter of Thomas Noe and Mary Fitzgerald Noe. We've hit a dead end here, but keep plugging along.
Thank you once again for taking the time to contact me.