RED HILL NEAR DROMANA (VIC., AUST.) POST 1940 and proposed BACK TO RED HILL.
THE IMAGE. (Courtesy of Sybil Cummings-a Sheehan/Cleine descendant via Rae's email.)
My cousin, Sybil, has forwarded me a photo of the Red Hill Tennis Club 1947. She thinks it may have been from a newspaper cutting - details as follow:
Back Row: L-R: "Phip" Cleine (my uncle) Jack Holmes, Aubrey Noel
Centre: May Wainwright
Front Row: L-R: Alice Prossor, Mavis Colliver (my mother), Cliff Colliver (my father) Bill Craig, George Bloomfield.
Sybil is very keen to come to the Back To Red Hill, even though she now lives in Cairns.
Happy days
Cheers
UNFORTUNATELY THE IMAGE WON'T SUBMIT. SEE COMMENTS RE OBTAINING THE PHOTO.
FOREWORD.
So that the range of community activities in this era can be accurately portrayed, many items in reports from the correspondent, such as on cricket or football games will not be included, especially if the players involved have been mentioned elsewhere in the journal. For example in the 12-12-1946 report,I have focused on the scouts and deleted the part about the Red Hill v Flinders cricket match, although mentioning that Mannix was playing for Flinders at this time.
As there will be too many surnames to fit into the surnames list,I intend to have an alphabetical index of surnames and the years or other locations in the journal where they appear. This will be immediately below and will be compiled when the journal is almost completed.
ENTER IN INDEX (1943) COPY TO HERE, LIST SURNAMES AND THEN DELETE COPIED TEXT FROM HERE AFTER INSERTING YEAR (and new names) IN INDEX.
BUTLER WILSON WEBB HIGGENS RATCLIFFE GIBSON FARRELL CLARK BAILEY
1943.
PROPERTY AND CLEARING SALE RED HILL SOUTH SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 27
ALEX. SCOTT & CO. PTY. LTD.
have received instructions from Mr.A. E. Ratcliffe, who is giving up farming, to sell, by public auction,
In 1917-8, John Thomas Gibson's share of 78A had been reduced by 2 acres (A.N. 87), Albert C.Ratcliffe had William Gibson's 95 acres (half of 78A)(A.N.213.) and George C? Clark (Clarke?)had the 40 acres from John Thomas Gibson's half that had been bought by Farrell, and was later bought by Ratcliffe (A.N.58). Perhaps Ethel Bailey will be able to tell us which half Mr Ratcliffe had: (north,south,east,west?)
Ratcliffe was very involved in farmer politics which seemed strange to me. Did he take over the post office after he retired from dairying? I'd better chase up those articles!
1947 KIRBY, ARKWELL, SHERWOOD (PLUS ANY OTHERS.) CONTINUE 1945/6/ ETC NAMES.
INDEX. e.g.
AMOS-1944; AUMONT- 1940; BENBOW-1940; BERKELEY- 1941; BLAKELEY- PROPOSED BACK TO RED HILL; BOWRING- 1942; BROWN-1944; BUTLER-1944; CHAMBERS (carriers)-1944; CHAPMAN- 1941; CLARKE- 1941, 1942; CLEINE-1940,1944; CONNELL- PERSONAL ANECDOTES; CRAIG -1940; CROW- 1942; DAVEY- 1941; DAVIS- 1942; DELGROSSO-1944; EATON-1940; EDWARDS-1940; GARNHAM- 1942; GIBSON- 1940; GOMM-1940; GOODHAIR-1940;GRIFFITHS-1941; HANSON- 1941,1942,1944; HIGGENS- 1940,1941,1944; HOLMES-(FAMILY TREE, SHEEHAN, PROSSOR, DOLL etc.)PERSONAL ANECDOTES,1941,1942 1944; HOSKING- 1941; HUMPHREY-1940; HUNT- HOW IT STARTED, PERSONAL ANECDOTES; HUNTLEY- 1941; JOHNSON TO JOHNSTONE- 1941; KNOX- 1940; LOWREY- 1942; LUND-1944; MacGREGOR-1940; MCILROY-PERSONAL ANECDOTES, 1942;MANNING- 1940; MILBURN-1941, 1944; MURRAY-1940; PEEL- 1941; PRITCHARD-1940; PURVES-1941; RADFORD-1944; RATCLIFFE-WHITE-PROPOSED BACK TO RED HILL; ROBERTS- 1940; RODDA-1944; RUDDUCK- 1941,1942; SALMON-1940; SHAND- 1940, 1941; SHEEHAN- 1941, 1942; SIMPSON- PERSONAL ANECDOTES; SKIDMORE- 1940; SMITH-1944; THURSTON- 1942; TOMLINS-1940; TREWIN-1940,1941,1942,1944; TURNER- 1941; VOLK-1940; WATSON- 1941; WATT- 1942; WEBB- 1942; WHITE-1940,1941,1942; WILSON-1940,1942; WISEMAN-1940; WRIGHT- PROPOSED BACK TO RED HILL;
HOW IT STARTED.
Rae (nee Hunt) sent me a private message a week or so ago. Her family owned about 200 acres in Stanley Rd and visited Red Hill every weekend from their Oakleigh home to pick their flowers and tend their orchards. Rae asked me for information about Red Hill in the period 1940-1955 and I couldn't help her because my research was based on rate records (available on microfiche until 1919-20)and snippets such as the Holmes family and the Outlook Paddock from my contacts. My trove searches have mainly been confined to Red Hill's earlier history. Janilye told Rae that there was plenty of information on trove and I hope to supply post 1940 information in this journal.
PROPOSED BACK TO RED HILL.
I really do try to help people who private message me for assistance. Although I didn't realise it at the time I received her Red Hill request, I had already written the WEBSTERS OF SORRENTO journal as a result of her request for information. While I might find post 1940 information on trove, there probably won't be many anecdotes such as those locked in the heads of probably 150 people who lived in Red Hill post 1940.
Realising that there was not much of this later information in Sheila's THE RED HILL and the Holmes history, but wanting to help Rae, I thought of a get-together of longtime Red Hill residents for a recorded TELLING TALES session. But within a day, recollections of the happiness brought to old Tullamarine residents by the reunions I organised in 1989 and 1998 had transformed this plan into a BACK TO RED HILL.
Current Red Hill residents will read of my plan in the next issue of Hill 'n' Ridge in which I have asked for volunteers for a CONTACTS COMMITTEE whose job is to ensure that nobody who would like to attend the BACK TO is overlooked. My proposal is that the reunion will be held on a Sunday in March 2015,possibly at the Consolidated School at Higgens Corner, from 1-4 p.m. This would allow time for touring old haunts and lunch before the event without having to leave distant homes ridiculously early. The first hour will be informal meet and greet, probably producing a noise level equal to that of a grand final crowd, as witnessed at both Tullamarine reunions.
Those not wishing to "tell tales" will be asked to write at least a page about where they lived, friends and memories during their time at Red Hill. (If you wish,you can private message me with your anecdotes so I can include them in the journal or write them in comment boxes under the journal yourself.) Telling Tales will take place from 2 p.m. This will be recorded and copied onto DVDs which some may wish to order (prepaid and postal address essential.) Profits from sales will go to community bodies that assist with the Back To recording (e.g.Dromana Historical Society, Consolidated School.) By 4 p.m. TELLING TALES will finish , allowing early departure for those not wanting to drive in the dark and more happy chatter for others until 4:30.
The Dromana Historical Society might have copies of The Red Hill, photos and other items re Red Hill for sale during the 1-2 p.m. meet and greet. As a matter of interest, Barry Wright is writing a history of "Wildwood" and Helen Blakeley is writing about Australasia's first saw maker. Stephen Lynch of N.S.W.has written about the family of Blooming Bob White (Peninsula Pioneers.)
PERSONAL ANECDOTES etc.
Rae Alexander (nee Hunt), Warragul.
Have now spoken with my eldest sister and she is gradually remembering bits and pieces of our years in Red Hill. Our place was in Stanley Road, Red Hill South. One thing she remembers is riding her bike a few miles to Mrs McIlroy's, who had dairy cows and Marg could pick up some milk. They would also use Mrs McIlroy's phone if they needed to make a telephone call. She also remembers the Post Master, Mr Ratcliffe, and how Dad (Frank Hunt) was not only a supporter but also judged at the annual flower show. We have decided to go down to Red Hill one day soon and revisit the place to help recall our memories. We can then write down our memories and go from there. (Margaret is much older than Rae (who was born in 1943) and "remembers things so much better than I do about Red Hill as she was in her late teens and even took her Burnley Entemology fellow students down there to study.")
Trevor Holmes has sent me a family tree compiled by Ray Holmes. Some of the well-known names from the Hill and and Ridge area that feature in it are Sheehan,Barker, White, Cairns, Prossor, Edwards, Bright, Andrew, Laurissen and Simpson. (Margaret Connell, nee Simpson, has some genealogy details about Keith Holmes' siblings which can add to the above. See the Joseph Simpson entry in my journal about the pioneer pathway at Dromana.)
TROVE.
The reason many of these entries mention Dromana is that I entered it in the search terms so that I got the right Red Hill. I'll never forget the time I spent on an article about the Red Hill Village Settlement before finding that the Government party was driven to the station after its inspection. Subsequent research found that this RED HILL VILLAGE SETTLEMENT was between Bunyip and Longwarry!
EVENTS.
1937.
Mab, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Nase, Wilga, Flinders ( V.), to Frederick Wallace, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. W. B. D. Jarman, Devonia, Red Hill(V.) (P.12,The Australasian,3-4-1937.)
1940.
FRANKSTON COURT
At the Frankston Court on Tuesday,before Messrs Grant (chairman), Gray and Wells, J's.P., Richard J.Benbow,. of Red Hill South, was fined one pound for driving a motor car without a red rear light burning; along Pt. Nepean road at 12.50 a.m. on December 23. (P.6,Standard, 16-2-1940.)
PERSONAL.......Mrs C. Walden, of Frankston, and Mesdames W. Tomlins and Goodhair, of Red Hill, are holidaying for a fortnight at Warburton. (P.4,Standard,10-5-1940.) Were they friends or sisters?
FRUITGROWERS' DEFENCE LEAGUE. Peninsula Sub-Branches.
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Friday 24 May 1940 p 2 Article
I did nothing about this article because the purpose of the League was not clear. Was it formed so fruitgrowers could better help the war effort or was it to protect the fruitgrowers from some threat?
"Office-bearers elected at Red Hill are-President, Mr. Wolley,Snr.; secretary, Mr. M. V. Brown: treasurer,Mr. N. Brown; committee, Messrs. C.Clarke, A. Mackeddle, W. Farnsworth and L. Smith."
About six hours later the motive became clear.
500 Fruitgrowers Protest Against Acquisition Scheme
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Friday 3 May 1940 p 1 Article.
I'm after tennis news and thought this article might be good.Apart from Red Hill South's premiership,only one person named is related to Red Hill history but you may find it of interest. Miss Trewin and Miss Rigby, mentioned later, might have been Red Hill players.
The presentations were as follow: C.P.T.A. Cup and "A"' Grade Pennant to Sorrento Tennis Club; "B"Grade Pennant to Red Hill South Club.
Trophies - Cups
Women's Singles Championship -Mrs. Dunk.
Men's Singles Championship. - W.Gomm.
Women's Doubles Championship - Mrs. Dunk and Miss Peters.
Men's Doubles Championship - W.Gomm and K. Irvine.
Mixed Doubles Championship. - W.Gomm and Miss M. Vaughlan. (Extract,P.1, Standard, 14-6-1940.)
As I'm a Rosebud resident writing Red Hill history,I ask you to absorb a bit of Rosebud history. The clocktower near the Rosebud school was dedicated to Edna Dunk, a tireless community worker and,as you see,a very good tennis player. Outside Henderson's Real Estate in Murray Anderson Rd is a wooden statue of her father, Mitch(ell) Lacco, a famed builder of wooden boats.
Now for the person with a Red Hill connection. It was Billy Gomm of Somerville, who is a legend of the Somerville Football club,AS IS HIS BROTHER, GEORGE. George married Leila Wilson of Red Hill. (See Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND for a detailed history and genealogy of the descendants of the widowed Sarah Wilson, an early pioneer of the area near Safety Beach, and associated families such as the Connells and Laurissens. The Wilsons were also related to the Purves family and Petronella co-wrote Hec Hansen's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN,which has an account of Bobby Wilson's head being split open by an axe in 1902.)
George and Leila's son,Murray Gomm, told me of the adventurous life of George and Leila (managing a thoroughbred stud in S.A.,during which he played three games for Norwood, and giving Colin Hayes a start in the racing industry,opening a milk bar in Flinders in about 1952 and reviving the Flinders footy club, running a renowned dairy farm near Ipswich from 1960,development at Surfers Paradise, mining rare minerals and reviving a ghost town in the outback, and saving the Somerville Hotel when brother Billy almost had it closed because of his S.P.Bookie activities. (Page 18, THE MYSTERIOUS HENRY GOMM.)
Two locals were recorded as donating to an appeal launched by the R.A,C,V.to provide ambulances to the A.I.F. abroad, A.B.W.Aumont,Red Hill and E. T. Gibson, Red Hill South.(P.3, Standard,28-6-1940.)
RED HILL ENLISTMENTS.
While many players from various Peninsula football clubs have joined the ranks of the A.I.F., Red Hill's
reported enlistments of 13 officials and players is one of the best local efforts so far recorded. The enlist-
ments include the president. (Mr. W.E. Craig), the vice-president (Mr.MacGregor), and the goal umpire
(Mr. Manning). Among the players who have enlisted are Eric Pritchard, Stan. White, R. Trewin, K. and G.Skidmore, E. Salmon, C. White, and P. Cleine. Gordon Humphrey, well known Peninsula cricketer, has also
enlisted. (P.6, Standard, 5-7-1940.)
Because of enlistments many clubs were having difficulty fielding teams, none more so than Red Hill.
(Mr. F. Volk, of Red Hill, told the meeting that his club was having great difficulty in fielding a team
each week. Half the Red Hill team had enlisted. Rosebud delegates said their team was having a similar difficulty. The League asked permission to field 16 players a side in B Grade. P.1, Standard, 5-7-1940.)
Naturally Depot had many players and fielded teams in both A and B grades but because many of the sailors had departed to war, their B grade team had to withdraw from the Grand Final against Red Hill. Depot was replaced by Dromana, which, aided by an injury to Fred Volk,won the premiership. Despite that, Red Hill did well to make the grand final under such circumstances and their 16 put up a grand effort with the best players being Volk, Edwards,Wiseman, Murray, Skidmore, Wilson and Trewin. "The Dromana captain (B. Guy) referred to the sporting manner in which Volk had taken his disappointing injury. He hoped that the teams would meet again next year. Both teams played 16 men a side." (DROMANA'S PREMIERSHIP Red Hill's Game Fight
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Friday 30 August 1940 p 6 Article.)
THE END OF AN ERA.
The Shand steam saw mill was situated on Main Creek. Roberts Rd ran through an original crown allotment 20 in the parish of Wannaeue and, according to Keith Holmes, was created by the hauling of the sawn timber, whether because it was a short cut or an easier gradient than the south end of Main Creek Rd. The problem now is to find out who'd been operating the mill so many years later as everything was still in "good order".
SALE BY AUCTION MORNINGTON PENINSULA MAIN RIDGE
THURSDAY, AUG. 15, at 1 p.m. On the property of Late W. G. C.Roberts.
SAW MILLING PLANT
Blackstone crude. oil ,engine, 21 h.p. Clutterbuck Bros., in perfect order, spring injection "Premier" petrol engine, twin cylinder 12 h.p. stationary wooden saw bench, belting,Emery guillotine machine, Pulleys, 15 in. blade planing machine, Haigh & Co., England; vertical saw; iron frame, shafting, docking saw, tramway and two trucks, timber jinker, circular saws 24in., 30in., 36in., 38in., 14ft. 1.5 inch steel shafting, new, tip dray,
American forecarriage farm waggon,light, Sundries. Terms: Cash.
Directions: Take Melbourne - Red Hill - Flinders road, proceed as far as Main Ridge P.O.. and turn West.
No Lunch.
GEO. HIGGENS, Auctioneer, 108 Queen St., Melbourne and Red Hill. Phones MU1975 and Red Hill South 13.
(P.3, Standard, 9-8-1940.)
EXTRACT FROM P.4 HILL 'N' RIDGE RE THE METHODIST CHURCH. It's good to have confirmation of my belief, copied from my Dromana Pioneer Pathway journal onto several websites, that Red Hill residents found work at Alex Shand's saw mill.
In preparation for the 73rd celebration (five years ago) the Church hall was thoroughly cleaned. A plaque was
discovered - the script revealed by the efforts and elbow grease of the late Margaret Knox. It read:
In Memory of Alexander Shand who for 35 years was a preacher in the district and fell asleep on July 17th, 1907, aged 82 years also Charlotte his wife who fell asleep on June 21st, 1917, aged 89 years. Religious services were held in their home for 40 years. They sought the welfare of all and delighted in hospitality.
Many residents had supplemented their incomes by working at Alex Shands steam saw mill which provided timber for fruit packing cases and supplied the insatiable metropolitan demand for firewood and building timber.
(Hill 'n' Ridge - Red Hill District Lions Club
lionsredhill.vic.lions.org.au/.../hill%20'n'%20ridge%20community%20ne...)
Another article about the Shands discusses "a new road" giving access to Shand's mill. The writer presumed that the new road was Shands Rd but I believe it was Roberts Rd,thus creating the boundary between crown allotments 20B and 20C Wannaeue. Alexander Shand had settled on crown allotment 20 so his detour for hauling timber was through his own land. If I remember correctly, Shands Rd was the boundary between the parishes of Balnarring and Flinders (east of Main Creek),and Mr Roberts' grant was in the latter. Also in this issue is an article about Eatons Cutting Rd along which the Shand timber was taken from Red Hill to the pier at Dromana.
(Hill 'n' Ridge - Red Hill District Lions Club
lionsredhill.vic.lions.org.au/.../issue%2026%20-%20hill%20'n'%20ridge.)
N.B. WATSON EATON DID NOT START A MEDICAL DEGREE. HE STATED AT AN INQUEST THAT HE HAD NEVER ATTENDED UNIVERSITY OR HAD ANY MEDICAL TRAINING. BY THE WAY, WATSON'S GOLD MINING BROTHER WAS BERNARD EATON.
A WARTIME EMERGENCY
Fruit Packing Classes for Adults.
Because of the extreme shortage of fruit packers in Victoria, the Department of Agriculture is organising
apple and near packing classes for adults in various fruit districts during January and February, 1941.
Classes will be restricted to women and girls and to men and youths outside enlistment ages.
Each class will continue daily for a week, and if possible, prior to the commencement of the fruit season.
There is no charge for the instruction, but persons desiring to join these classes must apply to the Department of Agriculture before Tuesday, December 31, in order that the necessary arrangements can be made. Applicants will then be notified of the time, date, and nearest district in which a class will be held.
Tyabb and Red Hill have been chosen as centres for classes. (P.6, Standard,6-12-1940.)
1941.
Stan White of Red Hill and Peter Purves of Dromana (probably "Green Hills on Purves Rd)were among a number of Peninsula lads involved in the battle of Bardia. (Peninsula Men's Part in Battle for Bardia
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Friday 7 February 1941 p 1 Article Illustrated)
On page 25 of MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN,Hec Hansen wrote:
During World War ii, my cousin Peter Purves was away with a few of the boys from Red Hill,including Stan White and Reg Sheehan. They were in the 6th Division.
LEADFOOT MILBURN!
Charged with driving a motor truck at an excessive speed on January 21, William Milburn, of Red Hill South,
was fined 2. Police gave evidence that Milburn's speed varied between 38 and 42 miles an hour. The truck
was loaded with a number of fruit cases, and Milburn gave as an excuse that he was in a hurry to get back with another load. The speed limit for the type of vehicle he was driving was 25 miles an hour.
(P.4,Standard,28-2-1941.)
WOUNDED.
Included in the wounded in action list are Pte. R. Ragg of Rosebud and Pte.J.Berkeley of Red Hill. Both
men are well known on the Peninsula. (P.1, Standard, 24-1-1941.)
PTE. J. B. PEEL
Another soldier, well known in the Red Hill district has also been killed in action. He is Pte J. B. Peel, aged
23 years, who was a farmer at Red Hill before the outbreak of war. His parents reside at Shepparton. At a
meeting of the Red Hill Comforts Fund Committee members stood in silence in respect of one who had paid the supreme sacrifice. Pte. Peel has two brothers serving, one with the R.A.A.F. and the other on mine sweeping duties overseas. (P.1, Standard, 24-1-1941.)
OUR HEARTS BLEED FOR YOU HASTINGS,HA, HA!
HASTINGS
AUTOMATIC PHONE.
Representations to the Postal Department for the installation of an automatic telephone at Hastings will
be made by the shire council. Cr.Gaskin reminded his colleagues that three years had passed since the
council first applied for an automatic phone at Hastings. The Department had then promised to keep in touch
with the situation. Red Hill, however, had secured this service before Hastings, in spite of the promise made. He moved that the council ask the authorities to honor the promise made, and, failing an automatic phone to give Hastings the benefit of a country service. (P.1s, Standard, 14-2-1941.)
N.B. Red Hill was in the Shire of Flinders and Cr. Gaskin was a Shire of (Frankston and?)Hastings councillor.
Colin McLear wrote much detail about the Chapman family in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. I have specified the location of Thomas Chapman's farm somewhere in my Red Hill journals. I think it was between Blakeleys and Alf Head's (later Jarman's)near Stony Creek Rd. Nelson Rudduck married Jane Sophia Chapman (whose initials are inscribed on the beautiful "Piawola" just east of McCulloch St in Dromana); Cr Rudduck would have been their son,Ernie,after whom Rudduck Square near the Dromana Pier was named.
OBITUARY
MRS. T. CHAPMAN.
Mrs Kate Chapman passed away at her residence, Beach street, Frankston, on Saturday, March 1. Mr and Mrs. Chapman were old residents of Red Hill and since residing at Frankston have been closely connected with the Presbyterian Church. The funeral took place on Sunday, March 2, the remains being interred in Frankston Cemetery, where there was a large attendance of relatives and friends. A service was held at the home by Rev. F. Butchers, who also read the burial service. Her husband, two daughters and one son survive her.
The pallbearers were: Cr. Rudduck, Cr. Higgins (sic), Messrs. J. J.Griffiths (sic), R. Holmes, J. Watson,` E.
Trewin. The coffin-bearers were Messrs. E.Turner, V. C. Francis, E. Haig, C. J.Clarke.
(P.4, Standard,7-3-1941.)
HANSEN'S ROAD??????????
First of all, an apology. The author of MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN was Hec HansOn, not Hansen. I have been guilty of the same mistake as the person who wrote the following advertisement and I hope I remember to fix other references to Hec's surname.
The earliest assessment that I found for Hec's grandfather,Hans Christian Hanson, in Flinders and Kangerong ratebooks was in 1887. He was on 87? acres, half of William Hopcraft's grants fronting the east side of the northern end of Tuck's Rd. He later owned both crown allotments. Born in 1857,probably in Norway,Hans called Hopcraft's beautiful homestead, with its beautiful fruit tree-lined driveway, "Alpine Chalet". It seems that Tucks Rd was known by that name at Shands Rd, and Hansen's road at the Mornington-Flinders Rd intersection. Hosking's farm would seem to have been near No 105 or 114 Tucks Rd right near the Hanson property.
WEDNESDAY, 9th JULY
ALEX SCOTT & CO. PTY. LTD. Have received instructions from Mr T. HOSKING, who is giving up dairying, to sell on the property, 1 mile along Tuck's Road (first turn on right past Shoreham, on Flinders road; or take Hansen's road from Red Hill), on the above date, at 12 o'clock, the whole of his Dairy Herd and Plant: etc.
(P.3,Standard, 4-7-1941.)
SAVEY???????
My DAVEY journal is full of mystery but I now know that the Daveys of Red Hill were descendants of the Frankston pioneer who was an early squatter on the Ballanrong run near Mornington and the Kannanuke run on old Mornington Rd fronting the coast where he built Marysville. Robert's father had land in Wannaeue, Kangerong (Forest Lodge) and over Red Hill Rd in Balnarring (Seven Oaks and what became "Kentucky" and "Rosslyn", established by John (actually Peter) Shand and Mary (widow of John Huntley Jnr.)
MR. ROBERT L. SAVEY (sic.)
Mr. Robert Leeland Davey, who had not enjoyed good health for some time, died at his residence, 35 Ferguson Street, Williamstown, on Friday last. He was born at Red Hill and lived practically all his life at Frankston and Mt. Eliza. etc. (P.1, Standard, 17-10-1941.)
AUCTIONS
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 15
At half-past three on the property. Roberts Rd., Main Ridge, Red Hill
MORTGAGEE'S REALISING AUCTION
C. J. STEWART instructed by the Mortgagee will sell by public auction As above, all that piece of land
containing 25 acres 1 rood 22 perches or thereabouts being part of Crown Allotment 20C Parish of Wannaeue, County of Mornington, more particularly described in Certificate of Title Vol. 4149 Folio 829641.
The property is nicely situated 3/4 mile off the Flinders-Red Hill road, close school, P.O. and 4 miles Red
Hill Railway Station. Soil chocolate and loam, netted, fences, 15 acres been cleared, part rich flat, good 6
roomed residence, outsheds. Two acres fruit trees. An ideal gardening area.Can be improved to advantage.
(P.3, Standard, 7-11-1941.)
As mentioned in END OF AN ERA under 1940, when Roberts Rd was built it became a crown allotment boundary forming the western and northern boundaries of 20C Wannaeue, the eastern boundary being Mornington-Flinders Rd,the bounDary between the parishes of Wannaeue and Balnarring. The 130 acre property had been granted in 1902 to William Johnson who changed his name to Johnstone so he was not always receiving demands for payment of money owed by an unrelated Mr Johnson. (GIVING DESTINY A HAND, Petronella Wilson.) The property had been subdivided into farmlets because William's son, Christie, had married a Tuck girl and was now farming on part of the historic Mantons Creek run. See my journal HOW SARAH WILSON LED ME TO HENRY TUCK.
1942.
MR. F. J. McILROY
The death occurred at the Alfred Hospital on Thursday, April 2, of. Mr.Frederick Joseph McIlroy. He was
born at Red Hill and, had lived in this district all his life. His wife, only daughter and one son survive him.
The funeral took place on Saturday, April 4. A service was held at Fenton Hall, conducted by Rev. A. O. Horn
who also read the burial service at Dromana Cemetery. There was a large and representative attendance at Fenton Hall and at the Cemetery. Mr. V.Holmes, Chief Ruler of the Rechabite Tent, read the service of the Rechabites, of which deceased was a member.
The pallbearers were: Cr. Rudduck, Messrs. R. Holmes, H. Garhham, I.Clarke, E. Trewin, J. Sheehan, and the
coffin was borne by Messrs. W. Crow*, C.Crow*, C.Clarke, E.Garnham and H.Watt. (P.4,Standard,10-4-1942.)
*W.C.Crow and sons won prizes at the Red Hill Show in 1949.(P.9, Standard, 31-3-1949.)
N0T ME YOUR HONOUR.
Hec should have pleaded not guilty on the grounds that his name was not Hec Hansen.
HEADLIGHTS NOT SCREENED
Drivers Fined.
Failure to have the headlights of a car screened in accordance with brown-out regulations at Frankston on
March 23, at 10 -p.m., cost Reginald Mervyn Cookson, of Connell Street, Oakleigh, 3 at Frankston Court on
Tuesday. Police of the mobile traffic section said that when questioned, Cookson stated he had removed the screens from the headlights because they were not showing enough light, and he was afraid of hitting horses and cows in Frankston district.
On a similar charge, Hector Hansen, of Red Hill, was fined 1.Evidence was that the measures taken by Hansen to screen, the lights of the vehicle he was driving on March 14 were not effective. (P.4, Standard, 1-5-1942.)
MR. HENRY DAVIS
Mr. Henry Davis passed on at the Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital on Friday, July 10. He was born at Red Hill, and resided all his life in the district. He enjoyed the friendship of a large circle, and was held in high
esteem. His wife and one son remain to mourn their loss. The funeral took place on Saturday,July 11, to Dromana Cemetery. A service was held at the home conducted by Rev. R. T. White who also read the burial service at the graveside before a large and representative attendance.
The coffin was carried by Messrs E. Bowring, E. E. White, C. Webb, J. Lowrey, R.Thurston and R. Wilson.
(P.4,Standard, 17-7-1942.)
1943.
SALE BY AUCTION ..RED HILL CLEARING SALE
Mr. R. BUTLER, of Clematis Orchard having sold his property, will hold a Clearing Sale of Implements, etc., on
the property WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15 1913, at 1.30 p.m. (Items deleted.)
This property is situate on the main Melbourne-Mornington-Flinders road, close to the Red Hill P.O.
All particulars from GEO. HIGGENS, Auctioneer 108 Queen Street,- Melbourne
Phone MU1975 and Red Hill Red Hill South 213.(P.3, Standard, 10-9-1943.)
RED HILL SALE BY AUCTION WEDNESDAY 20th at 1.30 on the property.
TUCK'S ROAD, Next to Mr ? Wilson's Orchard. Mr. S. Webb having sold his property, Mr George Higgens will sell by Auction: etc. (P.15-10-1943.)
The clues to the location of Mr Webb's farm are that it was on Tucks Rd and adjoined a Wilson property. George Wilson's grant 66A,Balnarring (Melway 255J1) was on Shoreham Rd,not Tucks Rd . I think Fernbank was also on Shoreham Rd and I can't remember who farmed it in the 1940's. However these two properties could be said to be next to Tucks Rd properties in that they adjoined the latter at Stony Creek.
George Wilson was granted 1A of A,parish of Flinders on 27-3-1903.The 239 acre allotment,reduced by 3 roods and 16 perches by the diagonal section of Roberts Rd just south of Shands Rd was bounded by the line of Roberts, Shands, Tucks and Barkers Rds. Such a large block was probably more suited to crops or grazing so I believe Mr Webb's property was 2A, Flinders across Tucks Rd, consisting of 79 acres 2 roods and 20 perches (Melway 255 E 1-2). Adjoining this on the east and extending to Mornington-Flinders Rd was 20C Flinders, granted to R.J.Wilson on 5-6-1941 and consisting of 30 acres,a good size for an orchard. Fingers crossed for an advertisement for Mr S.Webb's farm specifying crown allotments so we don't have to guess.(It's not looking too hopeful!)
PROPERTY AND CLEARING SALE RED HILL SOUTH SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 27
ALEX. SCOTT & CO. PTY. LTD.
have received instructions from Mr.A. E. Ratcliffe, who is giving up farming, to sell, by public auction,
on the farm, situate on corner of Stanley Road and Red Hill Road,1 1/4 miles from Red Hill Railway Station, on the above date, at one o'clock.CATTLE, PIGS, PLANT, ETC.
Also the Property about 2.30 o'clock. 95 acres 0 roods 27 perches, being part of Crown Allotment 78A Parish of Balnarring, County of Mornington; 9 acres apple and plum orchard, 16 acres rye grass and clover; portion partly cleared, balance timber. some suitable milling, watered by springs and creek. The improvements comprise dwelling(old), sleepout 12 x 18, feed shed, 3 small sheds, well situated overlooking Western Port Bay.
(P.8, Standard,19-11-1943.)
Crown allotment 78A Balnarring, granted to W.Gibson* on 22-7-1874 and consisting of 190 acres 1 rood and 14 perches,is on the northern corner with precise frontages to Red Hill Rd and Stanley Rd of 1114.47072 metres and 1024.54862 metres respectively.
(*William and John Thomas Gibson had settled there in 1871.(Dromana Pioneer Pathway.)
John Gibson was occupying 187 acres,Bittern from the Crown by 1881 while William,a bootmaker, was assessed alone on 78A. On 17-7-1886, William had been originally recorded as the occupant of 78A but was replaced by John, who continued as occupier of the whole 190 acres.
In 1909-10,John Thomas Gibson had 55 acres and buildings (A.No.69),William Gibson 95 acres and buildings (A.N.70)and John Thomas Gibson had recently sold 40 acres to A.W.Farrell of Balnarring.
In 1917-8, John Thomas Gibson's share of 78A had been reduced by 2 acres (A.N. 87), Albert C.Ratcliffe had William Gibson's 95 acres (half of 78A)(A.N.213.) and George C? Clark (Clarke?)had the 40 acres from John Thomas Gibson's half that had been bought by Farrell, and was later bought by Ratcliffe (A.N.58). Perhaps Ethel Bailey will be able to tell us which half Mr Ratcliffe had: (north,south,east,west?)
Ratcliffe was very involved in farmer politics which seemed strange to me. Did he take over the post office after he retired from dairying? I'd better chase up those articles!
1944.
I, Angelo Delgrosso, of Italian nationality, born at Colle, Sannita, Prov. Benevento,Italy, resident in Australia 6 years, residing at Red Hill South, intend to Apply for Naturalisation under the Nationality Act
1920-1936. (P.11,Argus, 29-2-1944.)
I found the following while idly doing a google search for Red Hill pioneers after bombing out on a trove search to find if E.and W.Milburn of Red Hill were related to Victoria's first irrigator of Keilor. Angelo was actually a bit late to be labelled a pioneer but the family is still here 77 years later.
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Delgrossos Apple Juice Co.
In 1937, Angelo Delgrosso was one of the pioneers of Red Hill. He set up his fruit and vegetable farm on Stanleys Road when it was a muddy track, no-one owned cars or trucks, and once a week, he used a sleigh with a couple of horses to haul his produce up the hill to Tar Barrel Corner.
Red Hill has many such quirkily named, colloquial local intersections, here he would be met by Chambers carriers who took his produce to markets in a truck.
Tony and Karen inherited half the farm, and have continued the family farming tradition, specialising in apples and apple juice and cherries when in season.......Right next door is brother Bruno & wife Julie Delgrosso. Also growing apples & cherries. Both their children help run the business which consists of a farm gate, markets and some diversification into an abundance of other produce
Address: 107 Stanleys Road, Red hill South.
Believe it or not,there was only one trove result for DELGROSSO, RED HILL so I deleted Red Hill from the search term and found:
I, Antonio Delgrosso of Italian nationality, born Colle Sanita, Benevento, and resident five years in Australia, now residing 64 Kerr Street,Fltzroy, intend to Apply for Naturalisation under the Nationality Act.
P.14, Argus, 5-9-1932.)
There's a fair chance that Angelo was related to Antonio and stayed with him while he familiarised himself with his new country.
The following building permits were issued by the Shire Engineer since the last meeting:-M. W. Brown, Red Hill, house; ......A. M. Lund, Red Hill, room; etc. (P.2, Standard, 13-4-1944.)
George Higgens was rated on land in the area with other members of his family with the same surname who were obviously not his sons. He owned land on Eatons Cutting road which is probably why Higgens Corner gained its name. The Dromana Historical Society has a photo of his real estate office at Red Hill. Like several other pioneers, such as the American brothers who established the famed Two Bays Nursery at the west end of Eramosa Rd, his surname was often rendered wrongly in newspapers, two versions appearing even in this obituary.At one time George's address was given in ratebooks as "Flagstaff Gardens". (See my SHIRE OF FLINDERS journal.)
DROMANA.
OBITUARY
CR. GEORGE HIGGENS
Great regret was expressed throughout the Peninsula at the death of Cr.George Higgens, which occurred on
Thursday night, as the result of a motor accident on Point Nepean Road, near Mount Martha. Deceased's activities for the Peninsula were many. He was a councillor of the Shire of Flinders for many years, representing the East Riding. He was Shire President on several occasions; past president of the Gippsland Shires and Boroughs Association, president of the Bush Nursing Hospital Committee, president of the Presbyterian Council of Churches on the Peninsula, president of Red Hill Scouts' Hall, and other sporting events; J.P.; real estate agent; land and estate agent, auctioneer, sworn valuer, valuer under National Security Regulations. At one time, curator of the Flagstaff Gardens, West Melbourne; foundation member Dromana Masonic Lodge. He was also a member of the Rechabite Lodge, holding the offices of same.
He leaves a wife and two married daughters to mourn their loss.Cr. Higgens had been ailing for some time, and was returning home after visiting his medical adviser when the car was hit by another car. The place of interment was the Dromana Cemetery. One of the largest funerals ever to pass through Dromana showed the respect in which he was held. Over 200 assembled to pay their lasting respect to a much beloved and respected citizen.
The burial services of the Presbyterian Church, Rechabite Lodge, and Masonic Lodge were conducted.The funeral was in the hands of James Wilson, undertaker, Mornington. Cr. George Higgins will live long in memories of this district
"For it isn't the marble, nor is it the stone,
Nor is it the columns of steel,
By which is the worth of an edifice known;
But by something that is living and real."
(P.2, Standard, 18-5-1944.)
DROMANA FAREWELL SOCIAL.
A farewell social was tendered a very popular teacher-H. W. Amos and his family. Mr. Amos has been promoted, and has moved to Clunes district. Mr. Amos has been in Dromana for a period of seven* years, ............. He was also an active member and president of the Red Hill and District Agricultural Society.................
Since war broke out he was a very active worker and secretary of the R.S.L., which he held till the notification of his removal, and was carried out with great credit to such a fine body of men. The Mothers'
Club, School Commmittee, V.D.C., R.S.L. and many friends decided to give him a rousing send off.........
Mr. Strickland, shire secretary said that when he found he had such a huge job to perform with arranging
wardens, etc., he was relieved of a lot of responsibility when Mr. Amos kindly consented to act.
(P.2, Standard, 25-5-1944.)
*It is possible that the secretary of the Red Hill show in 1932 and 1933,W.H.Amos of Red Hillwas the above teacher,in which case he might have taught at Red Hill before his seven years at Dromana.
Schedules for the general show or the dog show can be had post free on application to the secretary, Mr.
W. H. Amos, Red Hill. etc. (P.1, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 4-3-1933.)
POSTSCRIPT- I had a feeling that a Mr Amos had taught at Red Hill and was about to check my notes on THE RED HILL when the late Hec Hansen (born on 14-2-1913) told me to read his book. There it was on page 12 of MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN.
"After the old school(Arkwells Lane-itellya) was closed down, another was built next to the Church of Christ. The teacher was Mr Harry Amos, one of the best to ever put a foot in Red Hill. He did however belt me a few times,which I presume I deserved,although on one occasion,he actually apologised to me afterwards in front of the class. Mr Amos had an orchard off Roberts Rd, Main Ridge,which I ploughed for him when I was 14."
THE RED HILL tells us that the second school opened on 16-9-1920 (with Richard Rodda* as head teacher) and that the second room was built in 1928 when H.Amos was headteacher.
*Mr Rodda was prone to fits and once fell into the open fire but was pulled out by Hec Hansen before anything other than his hair was singed. (Also page 12.)
RED HILL
A very successful picture night was held in Dromana on Wednesday in aid of the funds for Mrs. Radford's
house. It is expected to have about 20 in hand. Already the land, donated by Mr. E. Trewin, has been partly cleared by a working bee held last week, and plans for the building of the house are being made.
The Red Hill school hopes to have a permanent teacher at last-Mr.Keith Butler-who expects to take up duties after the school holidays.
The Emergency Group personnel have decided to carry on their work under Flinders superintendent (Mrs.Smith), Mrs. J. Holmes still being group leader. Main Ridge and Dromana are also thinking of linking up. Help may be needed in cases such as bush fires, and to that end the group is keeping together.
A very pretty wedding took place at Hampton when Mavis, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. K. Cleine, was married to Cliff, only son of Mrs. and the late Mr. Colliver. etc.
It is with regret that we hear that Mr. and Mrs. Brown, sen., have left the district. They have gone to their daughter's in Wangaratta, and it is hoped the change will benefit Mr. Brown, who has been sick.They both will be missed very much. (P.2, Standard,7-12-1944.)
1945.
(Extract only.)Miss Joan Brown has recently resigned her position as sewing mistress at the Red Hill South School. She is to be married early in April to Mr. Roy Neale, of Amphitheatre. Best of wishes to them both...
In the meantime, until another teacher is appointed by the Education Department, Mrs. Campbell is helping her husband by teaching in Miss Brown's place.
The Girl Guilds have resumed their monthly meetings. Mrs. P.Cleine is their captain, and her two lieutenants are Misses Alice and Norma Prosser*.
It is with deepest regret we report the death of Mrs. W. Wright at her home, "Wildwood." Mrs.Wright had just returned from hospital after an operation, and it was hoped she was on the way to recovery. Her passing will be felt by her many friends, and sincerest sympathy is expressed to her husband and family.
Mrs. Walter Wright, of "Wildwood", Red Hill, who died recently,had been resident of the district for 17 years. Deceased, who was born at Poowong, South Gippsland, was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. C. Burchett, well-known in the Poowong district. The late Mrs. Wright is survived by a husband, son and two daughters. Her remains were interred in the Dromana Cemetery. The service at the graveside was conducted by Mr. N. Kingston. Pallbearers
were Messrs. F. H. and E.C. Burchett and W. M. Wright** (son and brothers), Mr. N. S. Muir, funeral undertaker of Mornington, had charge of the funeral arrangements. (P.3, Standard, 28-3-1945.)
* I wouldn't mind betting that this should be Prossor.
**Barry Wright, who is writing the history of his family and "Wildwood" (which has some excellent maps tracing the history of farm boundaries and much detail about the Hill Hillis/ McKeown connection)would be the grandson of Mrs Walter Wright (nee Burchett.)
BL88DY RED TAPE!!!
RED HILL, MAIN RIDGE,ARTHUR'S SEAT TO DROMANA BUS SERVICE.
RUN DISCONTINUED FROM MARCH 29.
Quite a deal of disappointment has been caused through the discontinuance of the above service.Mr. L. M. Shaw, of Dromana, who has been conducting the above service, sent a letter to the Flinders Council, enclosing a letter he received from the Transport Regulation Board. Mr. Shaw stated that as this was the fourth occasion on
which the Board had written to him with reference to his co-ordination with the Portsea Passenger Buses,
he wished to advise that the service would be discontinued as from 29th March. ETC.
(P.3, Standard, 12-4-1945.)
The Board would have thought it was perfect for Shaw's bus to arrive at Moat's Corner just after the Portsea Line bus had gone past so that Red Hill, Main Ridge etc. residents were stranded there for hours!
DROMANA
BUS SERVICE TO RED HILL AREA.
Mr. M. J. Shaw has advised Flinders Shire that his bus service to Red Hill area has been commenced with a
three day a week service. (P.7, Standard, 19-7-1945.)
RED HILL
DEATH OF RED HILL IDENTITY.
The death occurred at Red Hill of a well-known identity in the person of Mrs. Esther Marie Sheehan. The deceased was 76 years of age. The funeral took place at the Dromana Cemetery, Rev. Kingston officiating
at the graveside. Casket bearers were Sgt. R. Sheehan and S. Sheehan(sons), and Messrs Ken. Cleine, and ?.Cleine (son-in-law).(P.2, Standard, 24-5-1945.)
After checking A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA to see if Esther was the widow of one of the "Seawinds" Chapman brothers who went to W.A. during the 1890's depression, and returned to Red Hill after his death (and finding she wasn't), I did an ESTHER MARIE SHEEHAN google search and struck gold with the first result. Sheila Skidmore has good detail in THE RED HILL about the Sheehan arrival and marriage in South Australia and subsequent migration to Victoria's north west in the bullock dray which was a wedding present from Mr Ewers. After the Sheehan move to Red Hill circa 1887,one of the Sheehan girls visited her uncle who had remained in that distant area and was a station master. There she met William Holmes who was fortunate to find a job on the railways during the 1890's depression. So it was that the Holmes family moved to Red Hill. (Keith Holmes.)*
N.B. SEE COMMENT 2, "ORAL HISTORY". THE HOLMES/ SHEEHAN MARRIAGE APPARENTLY TOOK PLACE BEFORE THE SHEEHANS MOVED TO RED HILL.
SHEEHAN 9 Genealogy Page
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John was the 9th child of Robert SHEEHAN and Eliza EWERS
Esther was the 8th child of Henry Rees and Maria Brady
John SHEEHAN (Jack)(07 Jun 1868 in Mt. Gambier, South Australia-1956 in Red Hill, Victoria, Australia)
m.Esther Maria REES (21 Sep 1868 in Avoca, Victoria, Australia Vic BDM 20925-04 May 1945 in Dromana Hospital, Victoria, Australia)
RED HILL
There is to be a sale of gifts in the Red Hill hall on Saturday, June 9, at 8 p.m. This is in aid of patriotic funds and hopes are expressed for good returns. Noticed on leave were Arthur Greaves and Keith Salmon. We hope
the rest will do them good. Mrs. Erskine, late of Red Hill, is staying with Mrs. Wilson. Her many friends are glad to see her. The date of the sale of gifts in aid of P.O.W. funds was inserted recently as June 6. Readers will please note that the date is Saturday, June 9, at 8 p.m. Don Schwab, Alan Ross and Ken Skidmore are home on leave. We are glad to see them, and hope the war will soon be over so they can come home for good.
(P.2, Standard,7-6-1945.)
RED HILL
All men, who were members of Dromana, Red Hill, and Main Ridge units, of V.D,C., are invited, with their partners, to a complimentary "winding up" dance at Red Hill Hall on 6th November, at 8 p.m. Ladies kindly bring a basket. Naval Depot Band will supply the music and items. Kindly accept this as a personal invitation and tell your comrades. Further particulars from T. Rudduck, Boneo, G. W. Brown,Dromana, A. C. White, Main Ridge,
H. Campbell, Red Hill South, J. Holland and G. Gourissen, (Laurissen?) Red Hill.
Two teams are functioning strongly in the district-Red Hill and Red Hill South-Shoreham. Both have entered
the Southern Peninsula Association,in which there are six other teams, Portsea, Sorrento, Rye, Boneo, Rosebud, Dromana.
A euchre party in aid of the Red Cross was held in the Mechanics' Hall on October 20. A cheque donated by
Mrs. Millington was won by Mr. E.Byrne. These parties are proving very attractive.
The death occurred of Mrs. Geo.Gibson on Saturday. Deceased had been ill for some time. Deepest sympathy is extended to Mr. Gibson in his sad loss. (P.2, Standard, 1-11-1945.)
1946.
DROMANA DADS' ASSOCIATION.
The branch held a very successful meeting at Red Hill. There was an attendance of 35 members.The Dads' are organising working bees and clearing returned men's blocks and generally assisting to re-establish orchards and farm lands. This work is being greatly appreciated by the men. Dissatisfaction was expressed by the meeting at the inability of returned servicemen to obtain suitable trucks to be used in connection with their business. (P.6,Standard, 14-3-1946.)
Sheila Skidmore wrote quite a lot in THE RED HILL about the Red Hill Cricket Club,including its original ground in McIlroys Rd. No wonder she knew so much about the club! The final was played on Rosebud's present Village Green which extended east almost to the recently built Rosebud Hotel.
RED HILL
No finality has yet been reached in the games between Dromana and Red Hill to decide the winner for the cricket season. The end seems in sight now, and one more day should see its conclusion. Last Saturday's play was interesting and at first favored Dromana very much as they were able to take their total to 197, partly thanks to N.Osborne, who scored 22 in a very short time.
The play started with Greer and Hosking, with the score at 3 for 131. Geoff Skidmore, who was bowling better, soon got a good one past Hosking, and out he went. Greer, after adding 7, also fell to the same bowler.
Each of the others made a few runs,and the innings closed when A. McKenzie was brought on and secured two quick wickets.
Red Hill opened their second innings at about 3.10 p.m., with Henry Holmes and Matt. Edwards (requiring 165 runs to win). Things looked good for Dromana when M. Edwards was caught by Hosking off his own bowling, for 7
runs. Ken Skidmore then went in and when stumps were drawn, was still in partnership with H.Holmes,making 74 between them. With only 70 runs needed and 10 wickets in hand, Red Hill looks promising, yet there is the glorious uncertainty about that anything may happen, and we are looking forward to the last day's play.
As the Oval at Rosebud will not be available on Easter Saturday, play will not be resumed until April 27.
Scores:
Dromana, First Innings, 131. Dromana, 2nd Innings, 197. Red Hill, First Innings, 164.Red Hill,-2nd Innings.--Henry Holmes (n.o.) 37; Matt Edwards 7, Ken Skidmore (n.o.) 41, sundries 10. Total 1 wicket for 95.
(P.6, Standard, 17-4-1946.)
RED HILL
Friday night , in Church of Christ Hall, was a very important night to six young lads. Three of them, Peter Wright, Robert Akister and Noel Richardson being passed on from the Cubs to the Scouts, and the other three boys, Brian Barnes, Teddy Littlejohn and Thomas Lowrie, becoming Cubs. The new Cubs especially were thrilled as they have been looking forward to joining the Cubs for quite a while. Both ceremonies were very impressive, and should remain in the minds of the boys concerned for a long time.
In lighter vein was the entertainment part of the evening, when, under the very capable leadership of Mr.Ron. Holmes, assisted by Mr.Ray Salmon, a "juvenile amateur hour*" was presented. The children performed their items
in one of the small rooms and an amplifier carried their efforts into the large room, where the listeners
recorded their votes for the items. It was altogether very interesting,and many of the children showed talent which should be encouraged.
(*Terry Dear ran a radio show called the Amateur Hour in Sydney which inspired copycat shows such as Christie's Auditions on 3UZ. Amateur Hour probably came into popular useage to describe all shows of this type.)
Also among the Scout news is the appeal by Scoutmaster Ron. Holmes for help in the building of the Scout Hall. This project has been in the minds of the leaders for a good while, but the war breaking out compelled the idea to be held in abeyance. -Now however, it is hoped to continue the work. Funds are needed and also a committee of men and women who have the work of the Scouts at heart. Any who are interested in this work for the boys are asked to get in touch with Ron. Holmes at Red Hill.
It is with regret we note that Mrs. W. Holmes is ill. At present she is with her daughter, Mrs. Prosser*. All her friends hope she will soon be well again. (P.2, Standard, 12-12-1946.) N.B. There was also a report of a Red Hill v Flinders cricket match with Mannix playing for Flinders.
*This should almost certainly be Prossor. My head starts spinning as soon as I look at genealogy,this by Ray Holmes and contained in Trevor Holmes' email, but I conclude that her daughter was Myrtle May,Mrs Norman Percival Prossor.
6.Myrtle May HOLMES (20 May 1892 Neuarpurr, Vic., Australia-9 Jul 1989)
m.24 Feb 1915 Norman Percival PROSSOR (27 Apr 1890 Victoria, Australia-24 Dec 1949)
1947.
THE EDITOR SEEMS NOT TO HAVE READ THE RED HILL CORRESPONDENT'S REPORT VERY CAREFULLY!
The news of the sudden death of Mr. J. Kirby came as a shock to his many friends. No one thought of his passing so soon on as he was only aged 49. From all, accounts it was a heart failure just after a visit to the doctor, as he had not been feeling well. Deepest sympathy is expressed to his widow and her family.
The children attending the Presbyterian Sunday School had a picnic at Sorrento on Friday. In spite of the
heat a good time was enjoyed by all bathing being the chief attraction.
Another resident has had to enter hospital, Mr. P. Arkwell, and it is also probable that his brother Herbert may also have to go. Both brothers are said to have pneumonia, and all their friends wish them a speedy recovery.
The news of the sudden death of Mr. J. Kirby* came as a shock to his many friends. No one thought of his passing so soon on as he was only aged 49. From all, accounts it was a heart failure just after a visit to the doctor, as he had not been feeling well. Deepest sympathy is expressed to his widow and her family.
Since last week, death has again visited Red Hill. This time the sadness was doubled in the family, as both brothers passed on, Mr. Percy Arkwell and his brother Herbert, being the ones. Mr. Percy Arkwell has been more or less an invalid for years, being afflicted with rheumatoid arthritis, but Herbert has been always well. He was a local preacher in the Methodist Church, and was very well respected. He was admitted to hospital on Sunday week, and died on the following Tuesday morning. Percy entered hospital the previous Thursday, and died on Friday night. The whole district is saddened by the loss of these two, and sympathy is extended to the sister, Miss Arkwell. Arrangements have been made for the business as nurserymen to be carried on by a nephew, Mr. Arthur Sherwood**.
Another sad loss is, the death of Mrs. James Holmes***. Since the death of her husband Mrs. Holmes has not been well, and lately her condition was critical. Her death on Sunday fortnight still came as a shock to many, and she will be sadly missed.Sincerest sympathy is extended to the bereft family.(P.2, Standard, 9-1-1947.)
*KIRBY.-The Funeral of the late Mr.JOSEPH CHARLES KIRBY Will leave his residence, Government road, Redhill South,THIS DAY (Friday), after a service commencing at 10.45 a.m., for the Dromana Cemetery.
N. S. MUIR. Phone Mornington 132.(P.16, Argus, 20-12-1946.)
**CREDITORS, next-of-kin, and all others having CLAIMS against the estate of the undermentioned person are required to SEND PARTICULARS thereof to Albert Sherwood, of Cherry street, Balwyn. In the State of Victoria, nurseryman, and Charles Eldred Roberts, of Red Hill, in the said State, law clerk, on or before the twenty-fifth day of September, 1947. otherwise they may be excluded when the assets are being distributed:
Name.-HERBERT ARKWELL.
Usual Residence.-Red Hill.
Occupation or Other Description.-Nurseryman.
Date of Death of Deceased.-24th. December. 1946.
Dated this eighteenth day of July. 1947.
ROY L. YELLAND. of 259 Collins street.
Melbourne, solicitor for the said Albert Sherwood and Charles Eldred Roberts.(P.2, Argus,23-7-1947.)
No marital connection was found on trove between Arkwell and Sherwood or Roberts( both pioneering Hill 'n' Ridge families.) However the grieving sister was probably Clara who died in 1951.
ARKWELL.--On August 4, Clara Arkwell of Red Hill aged 81 years -Last of a family of pioneers.
(P.15, Argus,6-8-1951.
Ernie Arkwell went to hospital too, in 1898- to save face!
KICKED BY A HORSE.
SHOCKING INJURIES.
While attending to a horse at Red Hill,near Mornington, on Tuesday, a young man named Ernest Edward Arkwell was kicked in the face. His nose, chin, cheekbone,and jawbone were fractured, and he was cut and bruised in a terrible fashion. He was afterwards brought to town, and admitted to the Alfred Hospital, where he was operated on by Mr. Cook, M.R.C.S., and Mr. Frost, M.B. He is still in a very critical condition. (P.6,Argus, 24-3-1898.)
***HOLMES.-On December 38, Catherine,beloved wife of the late James Holmes, of Red Hill South, and mother of Coralie (deceased). Vera (Mrs. Laurissen), John, and Ruth (Mrs. Combes), aged 78 years.
Father and mother reunited. (P.2,Argus,3-1-1947. Paste from here; not corrected on trove.)
Mr. and Mrs. C. Webb (and family) have sold their property and are leaving Red Hill. They will be missed, and their many friends wish them the best of luck. At present they are moving to Dromana so they will not be lost sight of altogether. (P.2, Standard, 20-3-1947.)
RED HILL v. DROMANA (Extracts only.)
Record Attendance at Dromana
True lovers of the King of Sports from Flinders, Sorrento,Frankston and other centres could be seen amongst the big crowd at Dromana last Saturday for the match, Red Hill v Dromana. The teams were from two of the smallest districts in the competition, but both field powerful sides. A nasty north-easterly made spectacular football out of the question.......Christie, Osborne and Pittock were outstanding for Dromana,and M. Mannix and Reg. Hitchener were doing a great job for the "red legs." (Quarter time)........ Red Hill have players equal to A grade in Max Mannix, L.Bright, Trewin, Hitchener- Bros:,Schwab, Delaney and Max's brothers, Gordon, Lex and Austin. Mat. Edwards, although getting on in years now, for football, still gives the Red Legs great service.
(P.6, Standard, Frankston,7-8-1947.)
About the players. Christie may have been Sandy Christie, inventor of the electric B.B.Q.(Alexander?),Osborne was probably Norm after whom the Nepean league B & F medal is named but I don't think Cr Graham Pittock was representing Dromana then. (See my Watson, Stirling journal.) The first fishermen at Flinders were Chinese but fishermen from Queenscliff, including the Mannix family, later settled there. (LIME LAND LEISURE.)
Man found shot at Dromana.
Walter Duffield, 49, was found shot dead at the rear of his farm at Red Hill, near Dro-mana, yesterday. A gun was lying alongside the body. The gun will be examined today by Inspector F. Hobley*, police ballistics expert.
Detective F. J. Adam, of the homicide squad, who went to Red Hill yesterday, will return there this morning to continue inquiries. Police have been told that Duffield was living in comfortable circumstances and had
bought his property early in August. (P.1, Argus,21-10-1947.)
(*Frederick Hobley, like Bullocky Bob White (baptised as Robert White, and granted land near Whites Rd as Robert James before he proposed to Miss Roberts), was a descendant of the James family of Main Ridge. See my journal FREDERICK HOBLEY WAS A PROMINENT MEMBER OF VICTORIA POLICE.)
STATE SCHOOL SUCCESS
THe Red Hill State School has been in the news lately, as some of the scholars have obtained wins at Melbourne, Bendigo and Mornington shows: The following, are the awards:-
Melbourne Royal Show,. - Shield and. Blue. Ribbon:- Won by Apple packing Class. (Elaine Emmott,Betty Akister, Grace Kerville, Enid Bowring, Malcolm Andrew and Robert Akister).
Melbourne Royal Show. - First prize: Betty Akister;
Mornington Show Shield: Won by Apple-packing Class;
Morningthon Show.-Equal first: Enid Bowring and Grace Kerville.
Bendigo Show.-Second prize won by Enid-Bowring. Highly commended: Malcolm Andrew.
Each member of the packing class received the Department of Agriculture certificate. Class average, 79.
Special class prizes donated by Mr. Butler were won by Elaine Emmott, 1st-. prize; Enid Bowring,2nd prize.
(P.5, Standard, 20-11-1947.)
1948. FAMILY NOTICES finished.
JOHN D. EVANS L. L.B. BARRISTER and SOLICITOR
Visits FRANKSTON Si2a Young St., (Above Fr. East P.O.), W ?edlnsdays and 'ridays S2.30 to 5. And Court days by. appointment. -
(Visits RED HILL- - -Near Red Hill South Station Thursdays, 1 to 2 p.m. (P.12, Standard,8-1-1948.)
HOLLAND-The Funeral of the late Mrs. HESTER ALICE HOLLAND will leave her son's residence, Red Hill South. THIS DAY, at 2 p.m.. for Dromana Cemetery. (P.2, Argus,19-1-1948.)
BALDWIN.-On January 15, at Mornington, Arthur Begg, son of late Mr.and Mrs. E. Baldwin. Kyneton, loved
brother of Menzies (Stanhope), Jeanie (Mrs. A. M. Perkin), Margaret, Esther (Mrs. H. J. Skidmore,Red Hill). (P.2, Argus,19-1-1948)
New store at N Merricks
A store with a 20,000-case capacity has been opened at Merricks North, near Mornington, by the Red Hill
Co-operative Cool Stores Society Ltd. With the Red Hill store the society now has room for 56,700 cases. The
new store will help local producers and provide work for local packers. (P.5,Argus,15-3-1948.)
W.Brace of Red Hill South was one of many Swan Hill residents to have moved to the peninsula.
SWAN HILL MIGRANTS MANY SETTLED ON PENINSULA
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 18 March 1948 p 11 Article
BROWN. In loving memory of our darling grandson John, who passed away suddenly on March 26. Always remembered. (Inserted by Mr. and Mrs. Alf Hansen (sic), Red Hill.) (P.2, Argus,29-3-1948.)
Alfred George Hanson married Frances Ada Elizabeth Purves on 14-8-1906. Their daughters were Adeline Vera Frances(b. 19-9-1908,d, ?), Pearl Rita Ellen (b.31-7-1920, d.?) and Bertha (b. and d. 1922.) I was about to search trove for a Brown - Hanson marriage but on checking the index of MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN, I discovered that it was Rita who became Mrs Brown. "Rita had married her English sweetheart, Johnny Brown , in February 1940. It was now 1948 and Rita and Johnny were trying to come to grips with the sudden, tragic death of their son, John. Within two months they had moved to Mt Beauty,living in a caravan on the banks of the Kiewa River." (They stayed there for 36 years.) Hec Hanson had moved to Mt Beauty in the mid 1940's and when he heard there was a vacancy there for a butcher, he immediately informed his brother in law, B.J. (Johnny) Brown of Rosebud,who as stated above,arrived within two months.
Mr. Frank Williams, president of the Carlton Cricket Club for the past 25 years, has been spending a short holiday on the Peninsula with his son-in-law and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. D. Ponter*, of Red Hill South. Mr.Williams is delighted with Carlton's recent winning of the V.C.A. "A" Grade premiership and the club championship, and is looking forward to the celebration on Saturday in the Lower Melbourne Town Hall in honor of the occasion. (Table Talk, P.4, Standard, 10-6-1948.)
*This is sheer supposition but I believe that the surname could be Porter,although rendered in the article as Ponter, that D. stands for Dick and that the son in law was R.A.Porter of Red Hill South who won first prize at the 1949 show for best horse over hurdles-if D. did stand for Dick and R. stood for Richard. (P.9, Standard, 31-3-1949.)
ULBRICK & 'BILHAM AUCTIONEER, STOCK, STATION, REAL ESTATE, LAND AND COMMISSION AGENTS:.
VALUATIONS MADE - LOANS NEGOTIATED etc.
RED HILL SOUTH and FLINDERS REPRESENTATIVE Mr. JACK THOMSON* - Tel. Red Hill South 212.
(P.5, Standard,12-8-1948.) * See 12-1-1949.
ANNUAL MEETING. MORNINGTON PROGRESS ASSOCIATION.
The annual meeting of the Mornington' Progress Association was held at Campbell's Cafe, Mornington, last Friday.........
During the year, through the efforts of this Association, and that of Red Hill, a Council of Peninsula Progress Associations was proposed and agreed to by all Progress Associations on the Peninsula. This Council, which will deal, with problems common to all Peninsula Progress Associations, should prove very beneficial. Mr. John D. Evans,-who has been honorary solicitor to the Association, gave a fully-detailed account of the articles under
which this Council is being formed.(etc.) (P.8, Standard, 19-8-1948.)
M.P.F.L. Best and Fairest Player
The following are the umpires' votes for the leading best and fairest player for the 1948 season in the M.P.F.L. "A" Grade: Stone (Hastings),24; J. Coleman (Hastings), 20; Tindal (Frankston), 14.
"B" Grade: C. Wagner (Somerville). 18; G. Wills (Red Hill),16 ; S. Graf (Somerville)*, 15.
(P.9, Standard,9-9-1948.)
*A LOVE STORY FOR THE LADIES. Henry Gomm of Glenhoya at Somerville had grown up with Tommy Bent in the Moorabbin Shire and when Henry's daughter fell in love with the young station master, Henry asked the future premier to have him transferred,and he was,to Ascot Vale. Henry's daughter fled to young Graf and the couple was married at a quiet ceremony, sans the bride's parents. The couple was estranged from Henry but Paddy Gomm and his brothers helped them out whenever they went to Melbourne.After Henry's death Paddy encouraged them to return to Somerville. The Grafs inherited the Gomm sporting genes that made Billy and George Gomm legends of the Somerville Footy Club and it was a stalwart of the Somerville Cricket Club who suggested that Graf Rd be named after Shaun Graf who started his cricket career with the club. (Murray Gomm,son of George Gomm and Leila, nee Wilson, of Red Hill.)
At a special meeting convened by the Mornington Chamber of Commerce recently, to which the traders of Mornington were invited, 22 traders were present, while apologies were received from eight others. At this meeting the traders present decided that they would remain closed at lunch hour......
Shoppers' Bus for Mornington.
The proposal of running a shoppers' bus from Crib Point via Balnarring, Merricks, Main Ridge, Red Hill South, Moates'(sic) Corner to Mornington to leave Crib Point at 10 a.m., returning 2.30 p.m. on Wednesdays, was
agreed upon. Thirty-eight traders signified their willingness to sponsor this service which they consider will
be a great advantage to the township of Mornington, the Peninsula Bus Lines having received permission from the Transport Board to operate on this route.(P.5, Standard,23-9-1948.)
At a birthday party held in the Guide Hall, Mornington, on Saturday, Mrs. W. Watson,of Mornington, and Mrs E.A. Cook, of Red Hill, celebrated their birthday with a number of friends from various parts of the Peninsula.
(Table Talk,P.4, Standard, 11-11-1948.) Were they twins?
1949.
THOMSON.On January 9, at her home, Four Winds, Red Hill, Ethel Elizabeth, dearly beloved wife of
Don, and loving mother of Audrey and Jack*. (P.10,Argus, 12-1-1949.) * See 12-8-1948.
HIGH SCHOOL PROBLEM SOLVED
New Facilities at Red Hill and Rosebud
At its Friday's Council meeting, advice was received from the Minister for Education (through Mr. Leggatt*," M.L.A.) that the opening of a consolidated school at Red Hill and a new pre-fabricated multi-purpose school at Rosebud (with Technical School facilities) should enable all new pupils to be accommodated at Frankston High School for the beginning of the 1950 year. This would render unnecessary the re-establishment of 7-8 Grades at Frankston State School.(P.1, Frankston*** Standard, 15-1-1949.)
*Mr Leggatt opened the Red Hill Show in 1949.( Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 31 March 1949 p 9 Article.)The show was being run by a committee of the Red Hill Progress Association; the committee's president was Mr Milburn. It had been run by an Agricultural Society committee in earlier times but the war must have depleted the number of men available to form separate bodies, unless it was felt that an umbrella body such as today's Community Action provided a more effective use of volunteer residents' time.
**Before high schools were provided, children stayed at state (primary) schools till the end of year 8,the leaving age being a minimum of 14 until the early 1960's if I remember correctly. Successful pupils were awarded the Merit Certificate which enabled most children to get a good job or progress to high school. Both Essendon and University High Schools had their first intake in form 3 (year 9), their pupils coming from Central Schools at Princes Hill, Kensington and Moonee Ponds, which was a more economical system than grades 7 and 8 at every state school. Kensington also had a Post Primary Class for less-gifted children which was more hands-on,like a technical school; most of its pupils joining the work force at 14.
Because Frankston High was accepting children in Form 1, there would not have been room for all the children of this age. The initial intake at Rosebud High and the Red Hill consolidated school would allow pupils from the Shire of Hastings to be accommodated at Frankston High.
***The newspaper started as the Mornington Standard,the name causing great controversy until it was pointed out that Mornington was a reference to the county of Mornington, not the town,a huge circulation area that extended from Mordialloc Creek to Pt Nepean and into Gippsland. It was called the Frankston and Somerville Standard through the 1920's and 1930's with itsfocus on the shire of Hastings and then produced in Frankston as the Standard,with more emphasis on Frankston. Now it was the Frankston Standard. Its rival during this time was the Peninsula Post, based at the old Youth Club site in Wilson Rd,Mornington if I remember the details of a heritage study correctly. Unfortunately the Post is not on Trove.
PHOTO OF THE OPENING OF THE RED HILL SHOW.
Left to right: The Chief Secretary, Mr.W.W. Leggatt, who officially opened the Red Hill Show; Mr. W. F. Craig, vice-president of Show Committee; and Mr. Milburn, president. (P.16,Standard,31-3-1949.)
LEGION NEWS
The Frankston sub-branch of the Legion of Ex-servicemen and Women held a sand castle competition on the Frankston beach on Easter Saturday. (Results were:.....)
Toddlers.
Steven Lloyd, Frankston, 1; Arthur Frood, Red Hill South, and Mary Rumble, Frankston, equal 2. (P.3, Standard, 21-4-1949.)
No Title
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 7 July 1949 p 1 Article Illustrated
... RED HILL "B" GRADE/EOOTBAWI NIEM, 1949
A reasonably clear photo of the Red Hill B Grade football team of 1949, unfortunately without names.
Robert Bailey of Red Hill South was a member of the Frankston Standard's Children's Club. It's a fair bet that he lived in Baynes Rd. (P.11, Frankston Standard,1-9-1949.)
ROYAL MELBOURNE SHOW REPORT-DUAL PODIUM FINISH!
FRUIT
Apples
Apple Packing Competition Fruit Exporters Handling Committee Shield.
Red Hill South SS (Irene Edwards)1, Somerville SS (Julie Stamford) 2 Red Hill SS (Grace Kirville) 3
T. E. Butler- Special Prize: Red Hill South SS team. (P.12, Argus,26-9-1949.)
The Dog "Crib" FRANKSTON'S CANINE WONDER
A border collie dog who "does everything but talk," who understands every word spoken to him, who opens and closes gates, and fastens and unfastens high gate catches, and does many other remarkable things, was discovered unexpectedly by a "Standard" representative, after interviewing Mr. John McIlroy at his home, 19 Beach Street, Frankston, regarding gold mines.
Crib, who was three years old on September 2, is a big, handsome, intelligent dog, who came from the Camperdown district.(near another Red Hill-itellya.) His mate, Bonnie, is four years old.The pair have produced five valuable pups which their owner markets at 3/3/ for males ,and2/2/ for bitches. "Crib, the Wonder Dog," who
appears to be able to do everything else but talk and read " The Standard" (we have not tried him on that till this story appears in print), has sired three successive litters of pups each of eight pups, and each consisting of six males and two females-a unique and remarkable happening in dog-breeding records.
Mr. McIlroy has been a cripple since the pole of a "forest, devil" struck him in the" back" 34 years
ago at Red Hill. He was on his back for 23 weeks following the accident.
(P.6, Frankston Standard, 5-10-1949.)
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Professional history is usually organised in themes,but mine is more a matter of simply providing information for family historians,because the professionals don't do so,usually overlooking the many little people who contributed to communities in the early days and plucking out one or two pioneers to illustrate a theme. That was why I went from reading history to writing it as a bicentennial project.However themes sometimes emerge from my research.
One of these is how young men in country areas (such as Tullamarine and miles around and the Mornington Peninsula) met their brides. Usually they married their neighbours but there were three exceptions to this rule,in the 1890's,early 1920's and latter 1940's. They still married their neighbours but not in their native place. Many Peninsula lads tried their luck in Western Australia during its gold boom that took place while the rest of the country was crippled by the 1890's depression. The Chapman brothers of "Seawinds" were among the exodus, one having already married Miss Sheehan, who returned to her family after his death. Harry Falby Gomm of Somerville was another and established a pioneering dynasty in W.A.
The world wars were responsible for the second and third exceptions. The lads' social circles revolved around their training camps,often interstate (especially during W.W.2) and dances organised in nearby towns. Although I have not made a special study of it, it would seem likely that some peninsula girls married men,including Americans, based at camps near Mornington. Another way lads might meet lasses (who lived far away) because of war could be mateship forged on the battlefield. I wonder whether Sid Sheehan and Brigadier Sheldrick were together in the 6th Division!
At Scots Church
Scots Church, Collins st, was the setting yesterday for the wedding of Doreen Margaret, second daughter of Mr and Mrs S. Sheehan, Red Hill, with Herbert Mearns, second son of Brigadier and Mrs H. Sheldrick,Box Hill.
The bride wore a three-tiered tulle veil with her gown of Chantilly lace and tulle over slipper satin.
(P.7,Argus,24-11-1949.)
My sick sense of humour makes me say this. I wonder if Doreen's bridal gown was expensive or she got it for a SONG!
The following bridegroom might have been a resident of OUR Red Hill and a descendant of Henry Cadby Wells who was a Sorrento pioneer before settling in Frankston; if not,this article still illustrates how far afield marriages took place.
THE marriage takes place in St Martin's-in-the-Fields, London, today, of Patricia Jacqueline, daughter of Colonel and Mrs Frank Wells, of Red Hill, to Major Graham Stewart Allen, only son of Mr and Mrs Keith Allen, of Lane Cove, NSW. The bride is an old Ruytonian, and the bridegroom is on the Australian Army Staff stationed
in London. The couple will spend their honeymoon touring the Continent by car.(P.11, Argus,8-7-1949.)
1949 SUMMARY.
AFTER TRAWLING THROUGH COUNTLESS IRRELEVANT RESULTS, AND FINDING,CORRECTING AND REFORMATTING MANY ARTICLES FOR 70 MINUTES, A GAME APPEARED ON THE SCREEN INSTEAD OF THE FAMILY TREE CIRCLES EDIT PAGE. WHEN I CLOSED THE GAME MY EDITS ALSO DISAPPEARED. A SUMMARY WILL BE GIVEN USING MY SEARCH HISTORY.
The Standard Thursday, March 31, 1949.
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 31 March 1949 p 16 Article Illustrated
... Red Hill Show; Mr. W. F. Craig, vice-president of Show Committee; and Mr. Milburn, president.
PHOTO OF OPENING OF SHOW. LEGGATT,CRAIG AND MILBURN INDICATED IN CAPTION.
TWENTY-FOUR-YEAR-OLD MARGARET MORAN, a migrant from England now living at Red Hill, on
the Mornington Penninsula claims to have been a close friend of John George Haigh {right), who has been
charged with murder of Mrs Olive Durand-Deacon by British police investigating the "acid-bath
murders. Miss Moran says she met Haigh when she was a maid at Onslow Court Hotel, Queensgate,
London. PHOTOS OF MARGARET AND THE MASS MURDERER.(The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Thursday 10 March 1949 p 3 Article Illustrated.)
GYMKHANA AND [?] SHOW.
Standard (Frankston, Vic. : 1939 - 1949) Thursday 3 March 1949 p 8 Article
... from the secretary, Mr. Bar? 25 King George's Avenue, Mor ington (phone 404), or ?. Woodward. Red Hill
It was at this point that I mentioned that the historic connection between Red Hill and Dromana seemed to have been partly replaced by a greater connection with Mornington. Why would Woodward (no initial visible because of the curve of the page but digitisation otherwise fixed by prediction-not phonics, Mr Dixon and Mr Pyne!) be supporting a show at Mornington a matter of weeks before the Red Hill Show? Part of the answer is that Mornington,Red Hill and,I think, Dromana, had combined in earlier days to conduct shows twice yearly with the venue alternating- not sure when.
The rest of the answer would seem to involve Eatons Cutting road, William Calder of "Four Winds", Mr Shaw of Dromana and the Mornington traders. There were three mountain tracks that connected Dromana and Mornington. James Holmes of Red Hill often used Bryans Cutting (whose north end is Hillview Quarry Rd)according to Ewart (Melbourne) Brindle's extraordinary map of Dromana but in 1913 he and his family were almost killed on Eatons Cutting road. Two years later Mr Thiele,a village settlement pioneer,was killed on the dangerous Eatons Cutting road.
MOTOR-BUGGY OVERTURNS.
FAMILY'S ESCAPE.
DROMANA, Monday.- On Saturday
night Mr. James Holmes and family, of
Red Hill, met with an accident. Mr.
Holmes and family had spent the evening
on the beach, and were returning in a
motor-buggy. In Eaton's cutting the chain
came off, and, the brakes refusing to act,
the buggy ran back down the hill and,
overturning, rolled down the gully. The
family escaped with a few bruises, but Mr.
Holmes received a gash on his hand, and
Mrs. Holmes was badly bruised and
shaken. (P.7, Argus,9-12-1913.)
Mr and Mrs Thiele, old residents of
the Red Hill district, were driving to
wards Dromana. When descending
Eaton's Cutting, the horse bolted. At
a dangerous turn in the road the wheel
left the buggy, and the occupants were
thrown out. Mr Thiele's neck was bro
ken, and he died almost immediately.
Mrs Thiele is suffering from bruises
and shock. (P.24, Weekly Times, 1-5-1915.)
The condition of Eatons Cutting road was not improved by some residents, such as Alf Head (presumably Junior), dragging logs like sleds down the road.
DROMANA COURT.-At the last sit
tings of the Dromana Court, before
Messrs N. Rudduck and .G. McLear,
J's.P., Mr , Fulton, shire secretary, pro
ceeded against Alfred Head, of Red
Hill, for wilful damage to the road
known as Eaton's Cutting, by trailing
timber or heavy material. After hear
ing the evidence, defendant was fined
10s, and 2 12s 6d costs. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 11-4-1908.)
The Country Roads Board was formed, with William Calder*(after whom the Calder Highway was named) as its chairman at about the time of the near fatality of James Holmes' family on Eatons Cutting Road.
25 Oct 1929 - The Argus - p14
nla.gov.au/nla.news-page474381
The country home known as The Four Winds at Red Hill, which was the property of the late Mr. William Calder, chairman of the Country Roads Board, has been...
Main roads around Red Hill were improved and soon White Hills Rd offered a good route to Melbourne and,of course, Mornington, by-passing Dromana. With Mr Shaw of Dromana providing a Red Hill/Main Ridge bus service to link with the Portsea bus (ended temporarily because of BL88DY RED TAPE but resumed after a shire protest) and later, apparently, a shopping bus subsidised by Mornington traders, the hinterland residents would have seen the old Schnapper Point as an attractive shopping destination,a bit more like a visit to the "big smoke" than Dromana.
*William Calder was a driving force behind the Red Hill Show for many years and his death left a big hole to fill (No, not his grave, silly!)His son designed the new Shire office built at Dromana in 1928.
The show was opened by Hon. Alfred Downward, Minister of Lands.
He was introduced by Mr. W. Calder,president of the Society, better known to residents of the Peninsula as chairman of the Country Roads Board. Mr Calder has established his home at Red Hill, and his splendid property
was visible from the show grounds. (P.8, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 26-3-1926.)
1951,(and 1952 and 1953.)
Red Hill's netball team wins three consecutive premierships. Members of the team photographed,possibly in 1951,were Dot and Elise Hansford,Amy Lowrie, Joyce Worley,Glenda Trinham,Bev. Laurissen and Ethel (the wing defence.) (See Ethel Bailey in PEOPLE SEARCHES.)
MISS KATHLEEN BURTON,only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. W. Burton, of Pine View, Merricks North, wore a satin
wedding gown and fingertip tulle veil for her marriage to Mr. Raymond Eden Holmes, younger son of Mr. and Mrs. W. J. Holmes, Brockenhurst, Red Hill, at the Presbyterian Church, Frankston. Bridesmaids were Miss Mary Robb, of Merricks North, and Miss Marie Eaton, of Cobram. Mr.Edwin Holmes was best man.(P.8, Argus,3-3-1951.)
CLEINE.At Dromana to Philip and Marjorie of Red Hill-a daughter (Hilary Anne). (P.18, Argus, 31-3-1951.)
DEATHS
ARKWELL.--On August 4, Clara Arkwell of Red Hill aged 81 years -Last of a family of pioneers.
(P.15, Argus, 6-8-1951.)
1953.
'White elephant' railways to close
Three country branch railway lines which have been losing money heavily will be closed permanently on June 28.
The condemned lines are:
Redesdale Junction -Redesdale: A 16-mile long branching of the Bendigo line.
Korumburra - Jumbunna: A six-mile branch of the Melbourne-Leongatha line.
. Bittern-Red Hill: A 10-mile branch on the Mornington peninsula.
The orders for the closing of the lines were recommended by the Joint Transport Research Committee, approved by the Government, and announced by the Railways Commissioners last night.
The committee found that very little rail traffic had been moving on the three lines for some years, and that the regions served by the lines were now adequately served by road transport. (P.14, Argus,1953.)
1955.
MR. H. V. HAWLEY, of Eton's (sic)Cutting, Red Hill,wins himself a guinea with a very timely hint for this
heat (puff-puff)wave!Mr. Hawley never worries about his favorite shrubs folding up under a fierce sun if he has
to go away for the weekend or a few days.
"Drill a tiny hole in th bottom of a large tin," he suggests. "Fill the tin with water and st it by plants or shrubs. It will give a constant flow of moisture during dry weather." Mr. Hawley also suggests using the tins for tomatoes. It prevents fruit splitting too, he adds. (P.46, Argus, 22-1-1955.)
The Prossor,Holmes and Cline families won most of the prizes for fruit at the Red Hill Show. I have speculated in another journal that Rattray from Tasmania who won the woodchop, might have been related to a former Red Hill resident of that name. K.Cleine was most likely the K.Clune who in 1949 was acting as an agent for Muir, (an undertaker based in Main St,Mornington.)
Fine fruit at Red Hill Mornington, Sunday
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 28 March 1955 p 9 Article
WRIGHT. - On April 30, at his home, Wildwood, Red Hill, Walter, beloved husband of the late Amy,loving father of Kendall (deceased), Maxwell, Phyll, Marjorie, and father-in-law of Bertha and Philip, grandfather of Peter, Marian, Carol and Barry Wright, Diana,Douglas, James, Hilary, Howard and Colin Cleine, aged 90 years.
(P.13, Argus, 2-5-1955.)
JARMAN. - On December 6, at Melbourne. Violet May, daughter of the late Wallace and Daisy Jarman. Devonia. Flinders road,Red, Hill, sister of Daisy (Mrs.Heskett), Fred Dorothy (deceased), Arthur, and George.
(P.17, Argus, 7-12-1956.)
PEOPLE SEARCHES.
FRED VOLK.
My previous Red Hill research led me to conclude that I would have loved to see Fred Volk play. But I didn't realise that he was a teacher. If Jack McMillan hadn't been playing at the same time,Fred might have set the goalkicking record that Deadshot Jack (John Coleman) eventually smashed. Fred was still Red Hill's captain in 1940 but had moved to Carrum by 1947 and was soon transferred to Hepburn.
PERSONAL.....Fred Volk, captain of Red Hill is again in good form this season and takes football seriously, and (marks?)cleanly and well. He added ? goals to Red Hill's score on ? Fred is a school teacher, and (does?) his best to impart his (love of?) manly sports as well as the ? to his pupils.
(P.6, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 31-5-1935.)
STUDENT KICKS 105 GOALS IN PENINSULA LEAGUE
Leading goalkicker in the Mornington Peninsula League is an 18-year-old high schoolboy. Jack Coleman, who has
scored 105 goals in 15 matches. His total almost doubles the number kicked by any other player in the competition, and with his club, Hastings, in the four, he has a chance of breaking the all-time record of 117 scored by McMillan. Second and third on the goal list are two Seaford players, G. Wakefield and Harry McComb. Then come Prendergast (Frankston), Ansell (Frankston), and Fred Volk (Carrum). ......
VOLK FOR HEPBURN
Fred Volk, captain and coach of Carrum, has been appointed headmaster of the Hepburn State school,and leaves on September 5 to take up his teaching duties. Volk has been one of the most popular and accomplished sportsmen in the Peninsula district.
(P.18, Argus, 14-8-1947.)
LILY MARSH.
I wasn't actually searching for Lily but I found a photo of the opening of the new school at Red Hill, Red Hill South, whose first teacher (Miss/Mrs?) Lily Marsh is in prominent view. The school opened in 1932,before the era in focus, but some older current and former residents would have attended school there before the Consolidated School was established.
NEW SCHOOL AT RED HILL
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 23 February 1932 p 5 Article Illustrated
ETHEL BAILEY.
I've had the pleasure of doing museum duty with Ethel and if I remember correctly,her mother was a Gibson girl born (in 1884) on the family's grant (78A Balnarring,north corner of Stanleys and Red Hill Rds.) Her mum moved her family into Baynes Rd in 1931 and the children should have been original pupils of Lily Marsh at Red Hill South (and been in that photo) but they attended the Red Hill school on the second (St George's church) site until Easter so that school's teacher salaries could be justified.See page 2 of this PDF.
Hill 'n' Ridge - Red Hill District Lions Club
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FARMS.
The following was written in 1902 but as many farm names remained despite change of ownership, or former occupants of farms occupied post 1940 are known to later owners, it will be of interest to old time residents. Also,Red Hill residents were known to undertake long walks to some of the farms mentioned to enjoy a cuppa with an old friend.
I did a search for Little Bridge Farm,
Established early by Mr McIlroy;
Found some articles that can do no harm
And in fact might bring great joy.
They stray from Red Hill down Memory Lane
To Kent Orchard and Westward Ho
And I hope you will not complain;
Here are pioneers and farms that you might know.
Is this another poem by Henry Tuck?
Sorry readers,you're out of luck.
RFG 31102014.
Where possible,the crown allotment details and a Melway reference will be given for farms. To find the appropriate parish map, google:
kangerong,county of mornington;
wannaeue,county of mornington;
balnarring, county of mornington;
bittern,county of mornington;
flinders, county of mornington.
The special representative is hard to follow, rarely mentioning landmarks or directions, sometimes refers to going cross country when he was not riding across farms but riding a track through timber and water reserves that seems to be the route followed by the southern end of Stumpy Gully Rd. Even when a road is named,it is not necessarily the road that owns that name today. Both articles with Balnarring in the title start at practically the same place, Kent Orchard in the first,and Seven Oaks, (adjoining it to the north near the Kentucky Rd/Red Hill Rd corner in Melway 191 H1) in the second.
KEY WORDS- SHAND, MCILROY, NEWSTEAD, MINTO, BRYAN TONKIN, CLEAVE/CAPTAIN SMITH, TULLIS, R.STANLEY, CAMPBELL DOWNWARD, COOLART.
In the first article, we start at 79B Balnarring (Kent Orchard)with Joseph McIlroy's 25 acres across Red Hill Rd, probably a third of 22A or B Kangerong,granted to William McIlroy. The rep. then seems to ride east along Kentucky Rd to John Oswin's "Newstead." That his next port of call was Minto seems very strange;perhaps he'd been promised a lunch. I have a feeling that Minto was near the beach but I made a special visit to the Rosebud library to consult the rates on microfiche,the 1914 assessments almost sure to give me the crown allotment details. Neither microfiche reader was working! I rang Valda Cole and her number is no longer in use. Can you see why we need the "back to" to preserve precious memories?
Leaving the location of Minto for a while,we can presume the rest of the rep's stops were on the way back to his base or an attempt to record the farms he bypassed before downing a few at Coolart.
Captain Bryan Tonkin had c/a 116A,Bittern of nearly 80 acres on the east side of Stumpy Gully Rd about 960 metres north from its junction with Balnarring Rd but the land which W.Todd was leasing was more likely west of Tonkins Rd with 274 acres fronting both Stanleys Rd and the future Callanans Rd and the 65 acres of the stupidly designated c/a 83 big B,little B1,Balnarring only going north to the present south end of Tonkins Rd.
Captain Smith's former property,farmed by Mr Cleave was probably c/a 78B2 and 54A, Balnarring, a total of 254 acres granted to J.Smith on 4-5-1885 which was a bit east of directly over Stanleys Rd from Tonkins' frontage. The Conservation Reserve in Melway 191 K 4-5 was a quarry reserve of 10 acres gazetted in 1875 at the south east corner of c/a 78B2.
The 160 acres farmed by Mr Tullis might have been the 169 acre 54B,Balnarring granted to A.Duff in 1873 at the north west corner of Stanleys and Merricks Rds. The rep.was obviously heading east again,as Duff's grant adjoined Smith's east boundary. No members of the Stanley family were granted land fronting Stanleys Rd and I believe that R.Stanley's land may have been 34A and 35A Balnarring,granted to J.Caldwell in 1875-6 and fronting the east side of Merricks Rd to Frankston-Flinders Rd. Campbell Downward's farm was possibly 22 Balnarring of 312 acres at the north east corner of Stanleys and Merricks Rds, granted to J.C.Downward in 1873 or E.Downward's grant c/a 33 ,1440 metres east of Merricks Rd on the south side of Stanleys Rd. Continuing east on Stanleys Rd and passing Warrawee,the rep.would then follow Sandy Pt Rd to the Coolart homestead.
ABOUT BALNARRING. SOME PROPERTIES DESCRIBED [By Our Special Representative]
Our representative journeyed through Balnarring and portion of Red Hill on Monday last and gives hereunder a few notes upon properties inspected. All districts in the Peninsula will be visited in turn.
Mr JOHN SHAND'S.
(c/a 79B Balnarring, "Kent Orchard"; Melway 191 H1. See A.E.Bennett entry in the third article re John Shand's successful sales of his orchard produce.)
We began observations at Mr John Shand's prettily-situated and well kept orchard. Mr Shand has somewhere about 60 acres, and has made a name for himself as a grower of Jonathan apples. He goes in for this variety almost entirely. The trees are of remarkable evenness and doing well. As has been noticed in most of our orchards the trees on the tops of the hills look best, for the reason that they have good natural drainage.
This is unquestionably the first and foremost point in planting an orchard, to see that the trees are provided with good drainage, natural or artificial. If more attention were paid to this matter, we would hear much less of pests such as the black spot, whose presence is in 'the majority' of cases brought about by bad drainage. Mr Shand has a few strawberries, but they have not been the success he expected. He manufactured all his own fruit cases last season, thus demonstrating what has already been maintained by the STANDARD that these can be profitably made from the native timber in the district. Somerville, Red Hill and the other districts use enough cases to keep a mill going right through the season. Here, then, is scope for local enterprise.
MR JOSEPH MCILROY'S.
( a third of 22 A or B, Kangerong; Melway 191 F-G1.)
Just over the road from Mr Shand's lies Mr McIlroy's. He has a holding of some 25 acres, about 14 of which
are planted out with strawberries. The soil about here-red loam-is just the very thing for strawberries, and
imparts a rich colour to them. Mr McIlroy has chosen the side of a hill as the site of his plantation, and it
seemed to us that if he could only get water to the top and run it between the rows he could get almost a ten-fold increase in the yield. The land is quite clear of weeds and the plants as healthy as possible.
MR. J. OSWIN'S.
(c/a 55AB, Balnarring, "Newstead; Melway 191 part K 1-2, 192 A-B 1-2 fronting Bittern Dromana Rd and Merricks Rd.)
Mr John Oswin, who is credited with being the best judge of horseflesh in the Peninsula, has a valuable property in "Newstead," which runs to something like 1000 acres. He engages chiefly in horse and sheep breeding, but is thinking of giving up the latter and going in solely for horses. He has some fine animals, a handsome draught stallion and a young pony stallion of great promise being objects of admiration by all who know what a good horse is. ,Mr Oswin has been carrying on some successful experiments with paspalum and is loud in its praises.
He has a young orchard coming on, planted with Jonathans and Five Crown apples. Everything about the
homestead has a spic-and-span appearance, and up-to-date improvements are to be noted, Mr Oswin being one of
those men who does not believe in standing still but in keeping well abreast of the times.
EXTRACT re the Oswin family FROM MY JOURNAL ABOUT THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS.
OSWIN John 1877-9.
OSWIN William 1902-5.
The following is an extract from my PIONEER PATHWAY, DROMANA journal.
OSWIN John and Georgina 1867
Mary Karney is a descendant of John and Georgina. Today, I tried to borrow her book, THE GOLDEN PLAINS:TUBBARUBBAREL and was reminded why I decided to provide my history on FAMILY TREE CIRCLES instead of supplying it to the Mornington Peninsula Library. They have four copies of the book and both copies at Rosebud are designated NOT FOR LOAN. It's not much good telling family historians that information is in a certain book if they can't borrow it! I had an appointment at Mornington so I got a copy there (for two days.)
Therefore, I rang Mary to ask if her books are available to be bought (which they are, from the Balnarring and Hastings Historical Societies) and to find the actual name of John and Georgina's daughter Zing ; it was Florence Mary. Having found these answers, I prepared to start the journal by pinpointing the location of "Newstead". The book stated that it was crown allotment 35A Balnarring, which I found on an almost illegible map I printed long ago from the internet; it's so bad I couldn't even read the grantee's name.
I rang Mary again and her description of Newstead's location was much further north, and referring to a clear map of part of the parish near Red Hill, I discovered that Newstead was actually crown allotments 55 A and B, Balnarring. Mary said that the homestead was north of (the present) Kentucky Rd and accessed from Merricks Rd along a driveway about 100 metres long. John Oswin had selected both blocks at about the same time.
Newstead fronted the Dromana-Bittern Rd from the bend in Melway 161 K 11 running eastwards about 1063 metres to Merricks Rd. From the corner, the frontage ran south for 1072 metres almost halfway to Stanleys Rd. Each allotment consisted of 139 acres 2 roods and 3 perches, the eastern half (55B) being granted on 25-8-1872 and 55A on 4-8-1874.
The information below comes from Mary Karney's "The Golden Plains Tubbarubbarel". Much more information about the Oswins is available in her transcriptions of Georgina Oswin's diaries and "No Rugged Landscape".
John Oswin, pictured on page 22, selected his first block in the parish of Balnarring in 1865. (As his homestead was on 55B, we can assume that this was it; certainly not 35A, which my clear map shows was granted to J.Caldwell.) Later, like most of the selectors, he took up other blocks scattered over both Balnarring and Bittern parishes.
John married Georgina Mills in 1871 and they had eight children, seven of whom survived. (Mary told me that Arthur died at, or soon after, birth.) Six of the surviving children are pictured with John and Georgina on page 24, namely Bill, Zing (Florence Mary), Dick*, Olive (Mary Karney's mother), Sue and Ethel. Missing from the photo was Fanny who married William Lamble, blacksmith of Bittern and is pictured with husband and son on page 23. ( The 1899-1900 ratebook shows that John Lamble Snr had 100 acres and buildings in (the parish of) Bittern. Georgina's diary extracts discuss Ernie (said to be John and Georgina's son) and Willie Mairs spending much time at the Tubbarubba diggings in 1893. If Ernie was another son, that makes eight children who survived.
*Dick Oswin was the local butcher and married Agnes Callanan. (Mary Karney, P.6 BALNARRING BYWAYS AND MEMORIES VOLUME 2.)
Georgina gave birth to a son at her father's place, Kingston in Brighton. (P.4, Argus, 9-7-1873.)
Georgina died on 1-6-1908 at "Newstead" aged 58.(P.1, Argus, 3-7-1908.)
Had John Oswin been a hero in the floods near Kew in 1863? (P.5, Argus, 21-12-1863.)I suspect that he was and that Fanny's marriage was not the first connection between the Oswin and Lamble families. (P.8, Argus, 8-6-1859.)
"Newstead" seems to have been sold to Mr Hunt of Melbourne in 1910 following John Oswin's death. (P.8, Argus, 5-8-1910.)
John Oswin and his son, William were both Flinders and Kangerong Shire councillors.
From Mary Karney's NO RUGGED LANDSCAPE.
OSWIN P.190.Willie Oswin was called Grampas by the family.P.1.Mary Oswin, sister of John, married Lawrence WADESON (who with John Holmes was granted the 208 acres on the north and west side of Red Hill Rd between Vines of Red Hill, inclusive, and the south boundary of the Kangerong Nature Conservation Reserve.The southern 104 acres became the Huntleys' Hillside Orchard; John Huntley Snr may have had a lease from the Crown for the whole 208 acres before rate records started.)
John Oswin was known as DADAS according to a caption under a photo of John -page number not recorded.
COLE'S MINTO.
There is an excellent but very long article about Mr Cole which backs up the claims made in LIME LAND LEISURE by Charles Hollinshed about the Cole family's scientific approach to pasture improvement. Valda Cole is one of the greatest authorities regarding the history of the eastern side of the Mornington Peninsula.
MR. G W. COLE'S FARM. A WELL-IMPROVED PROPERTY.
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 26 April 1902 p 10 Article.
Mrs Cole was the widow of G.W.Cole,who had died earlier in 1902.
MINTO.
Mrs Cole's property,is set off with a beautiful growth of ornamental trees. It contains about 600 acres, 150 of
which are sown with grass. Mrs Cole had 30 acres of rape in this year, and sent a large number of prime sheep to the market. Here may be seen a most luxuriant growth of paspalum, by far the best in the whole Peninsula, and, for that matter, perhaps not surpassed in the State. It has been established here some 35 years, having been introduced by the late Baron Von Mueller. Incredible as it may seem, the late MrCole had average yields off his paspalum paddocks of 40 tons to the acre, for one or two seasons running.
Should anyone have misgivings as to whether paspalum will do down this way, let him feast his eyes on these
paddocks. It will be a revelation to him. The essentials for its successful growth are good soil and moisture.
CAPTAIN TONKIN's.
(274 acres fronting both Stanleys Rd and the future Callanans Rd and the 65 acres of the stupidly designated c/a 83 big B,little B1,Balnarring only going north to the present south end of Tonkins Rd.Melway 191 H 5-8, part J&K8 .)
Captain Tonkin's property is being leased by Mr W. Todd, who seems to be jogging along very nicely. He has
about 30 acres of oats in and had some rape, but it did not come up to expectations, probably for the reason that it was put in too late, viz., in April. Rape ought to be sown about March. I have noted about this district, if left much later, it generally turns out poorly. Mr Todd is running a lot of sheep, which look very well. He has, besides this property, another near Tubba Rubba, of about 300 acres.
MR W. CLEAVE'S.
(Captain Smith's former property,farmed by Mr Cleave was probably c/a 78B2 and 54A, Balnarring, a total of 254 acres granted to J.Smith on 4-5-1885 which was a bit east of directly over Stanleys Rd from Tonkins' frontage. The Conservation Reserve in Melway 191 K 4-5 was a quarry reserve of 10 acres gazetted in 1875 at the south east corner of c/a 78B2. Melway 191 part J, K3,4,part 2, 192 part A 3-4,part 2.
The property which most people know as Captain Smith's is now in possession of Mr W. Cleave, a good,
progressive farmer, who hails from Gippsland. He is experimenting with onions, and, though it is too early to
venture an opinion as to how they are going to turn out, it may be said that all the conditions necessary for their successful culture appear to be present. A very disappointed man will Mr Cleave be if the crop is a failure, but he tells you confidently that it won't be so, and all of us will hope he is right. If onions do well at Flinders, there is no earthly reason, as far as we can see, why they shouldn't do equally well at Balnarring and elsewhere on the Peninsula. At Frankston they grow splendidly, and yet very few go in for them. I recollect last season seeing several hundred-weight that had come off Mr T. Ritchie, senr's, land by the Kananook Creek. They were regular boomers, all over 1 lb weight each, and were disposed of to a Melbourne firm of agents, who exhibited them in their window as having been grown on "their rich Carrum soil!" However, this is by the way. A lot of the Balnarring people are watching Mr Cleave's experiment with very keen interest, and should it turn out a success, it is expected that hundreds of acres in this district will be growing the fragrant onion next year.
MR R. L. TULLIS.
(Bob Tullis is mentioned on page 36 of Mary Karney's THE GOLDEN PLAINS OF TUBBARUBBAREL.
The 160 acres farmed by Mr Tullis might have been the 169 acre 54B,Balnarring granted to A.Duff in 1873 at the north west corner of Stanleys and Merricks Rds. The rep.was obviously heading east again,as Duff's grant adjoined Smith's east boundary. Melway 192 partA, B 3-4,part 2,north to Kentucky Rd corner and fronting Merricks Rd.)
Mr Tullis has 160 acres and grows a good deal of rape for fattening sheep for the winter market. He has about
six acres of orchard, and does something in the poultry-farming line, which he finds a profitable adjunct to
other pursuits. The writer has often been surprised that so few go in for poultry, in conjunction with farming
and fruit growing. There may not be any fortune in the game, but there is at least a few shillings a week in it, and this will buy the wife a new frock every now and then and provide her with a little pocket money of her own. The writer knows one good lady who made 50 no less out of poultry last year, while her husband made a very good thing out of fruit, devoting his whole time to that department, and leaving the care of the "chooks " and the selling of their eggs, entirely to his wife. In other districts the income of the farm is often largely supplemented by poultry. Ducks, by the way, are a good line, according to Mr Ralph Brown, who told a Frankston audience some two or three months back that he knew a man near Sydney who, off a duck-farm of five acres in extent, was making 1000 a year. It's a big figure that, and personally, we are inclined to think that it is rather exaggerated-not by Mr Brown, but by his informant-yet there is no mistaking that, carried on in a proper manner and on business lines, there's money in breeding ducks and poultry generally.
MR R. STANLEY'S.
EXTRACT re the Stanley family FROM MY JOURNAL ABOUT THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS.
STANLEY Robert 1886-94, 1906-15
Stanleys Rd (Melway 191 F5) honours this pioneering family. It is possible that Joseph P.Stanley followed this track to Stumpy Gully Rd and then headed about two miles north to his selection,104B Bittern, for which he received the grant on 17-2-1885. Of just over 95 acres, this land was at the south west corner of Myers and Stumpy Gully Rds with frontages of 806 and 546 metres respectively.
FLINDERS AND KANGERONG SHIRE .COUNCIL. Saturday, March 27. Present.-Cr Davies (president), Buckley, Haig. Bartholomew, Shaw, Macfarlan and Brown. Cr Stanley, in consequence of ill health was granted six months leave of absence. (P.2, Dandenong Advertiser and Cranbourne, Berwick and Oakleigh Advocate, 8-4-1914.)
On the motion of Cr Shand a letter of condolence was directed to be sent to ex-Cr Stanley in his recent sad bereavement. (P.3, Mornington Standard, 13-5-1916.)
BALNARRING. The present month has ushered in tragedy. Two of the oldest, best-known and most respected residents have gone to the great beyond. Mr Paul Vansuylen was the first. Contracting a bad cold he developed pneumonia and almost before it was realised that he was very ill, he had succumbed on 2nd inst. in spite of the best medical aid. Mr Vansuylen has resided here from boyhood, his father having been a very well-known identity of early times. He leaves a wife and a large grown-up family. He was buried as Hastings, and a very large number of mourners followed his remains to tHe cemetery. He will be greatly missed. Mr Robert Stanley died on the Sunday following (9th). He had suffered a long and painful illness, having been ill since December, 1914. In his case a severe cold started many complications, and he gradually sank lower and lower, till death came as a merciful end. Mr Stanley was also a resident here from boyhood, his father having arrived amongst the first pioneers. He was a man of great energy and active sympathy in all local movements. He and Mr Vansuylen were the life of the A.N.A., the Progress Association and the School Committee. Mr Stanley was also for years a councillor in the Flinders shire, where he had a reputation for honesty and outspokenness. No men will be so much missed as he and his old time friend, Mr P Vansuylen.
(P.2, Mornington and Dromana Standard, 15-7-1916.)
From Mary Karney's NO RUGGED LANDSCAPE.
STANLEY P.195. E.Stanley arrived in 1861. His sons Bob, Joe and Bill were given the task of minding some cattle. They stuck to their task so well that J.BUCKLEY led a search party of 20 men to find them. The boys were returned home from the Mt Martha area by Teddy Quinn* . This story is told in full in THE MEN WHO BLAZED THE TRACK. Bob Stanley married a Byrne girl and their children were Vincent, born 11-5-1896, and Vera.
(*Probably from the family which lived on the north west corner of Mornington-Tyabb and Moorooduc Rds where the electricity sub station stands. The Quinns and Whites were ancestors of Shirley Walter,nee Bourne, the female drover who inspired my THE FEMALE DROVER: A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC.)
Mr Bob Stanley has a nice property of 500 acres or so of good grass land, and runs cattle exclusively. The
stock do well here, and some fine beasts are grown. Mr Stanley does a little in the dairying line.
MR CAMPBELL DOWNWARD'S,
Next to the above lies Mr Campbell Downward's place. This gentleman devotes his attention to sheep breeding, at which he is very successful. It was noted in passing that his paddocks, once clear of undergrowth, are now getting over-run with bracken. There is only one thing for this, and that is to thoroughly clear the land and put the plough into it. Otherwise the fern will soon spread over the whole area, and " fresh fields and pastures new" will have to be sought for the sheep.
"COOLART."
The Hon F. S. Grimwade's estate is, during that gentleman's absence in the Old Country, in charge of Mr R.
Morris. Here some exceptionally fine stock are bred, Mr Grimwade makes a point of securing nothing but the
very best of animals for stud purposes. The famous Bobadil is doing duty there at a fee, by the way, of 30
guineas. Fortunately, he is not dependent upon local patronage, or his services would not be called into requisition very often at this figure. Some valuable racing mares from the metropolis are being served by him.
We noticed several promising-looking yearlings of Bobadil's, and some heavy stock, all in the very pink of condition. A splendid herd of Shorthorn cattle is also to be seen, amongst them a magnificent bull, who has been entered for the Royal and is confidently expected to have no difficulty in annexing the champion prize. A
nice lot of Cotswold sheep are raised here. Indeed, Mr Grimwade has quite a show of his own, and one may here see perhaps the best horses, cattle and sheep in the whole Peninsula. (P.2, Mornington Standard,23-8-1902.)
AROUND RED HILL.
SOME PROPERTIES DESCRIBED
[By Our Special Representative.]
Red Hill, with its rich soil and fine climate, bids fair to become in the near future one of the great fruit
producing centres of the State. It is badly handicapped now in not having ready means of transit to Melbourne, but the matter of a railway there is already being considered by the Minister, who has indicated that he views the project favourably. At present growers have either to make a ten-mile trip to Bittern or go fourteen miles to Mornington to get their produce to the train. When this railway is constructed, Red Hill is bound to make great headway. For strawberries and other small fruits, as well as apples, pears, plums and cherries, the
district is admirably suited. Vegetables and general crops also do splendidly. In short, anything will grow
here, and grow well. Brief descriptions of some of the properties are appended:
"HILL-SIDE" ORCHARD. (c/a.15A, Kangerong, almost 105 acres,granted to J. Holmes,gardener,who was not related to the later pioneers of that name; Melway 191 E3, and parts of E-F4 and F3.
This orchard, which belongs to the Misses Huntley, is somewhere about 12 acres in extent, and is noted for its
large yields of fruit, especially of cherries and plums. It is situated in a well-sheltered valley and is perhaps the most thoroughly-drained garden in the locality. Of cherries, Black Margaret do exceptionally well; and of plums, the most successful seem to be the Pond's Seedling. Apples and pears grow to perfection, and the same may be said of the strawberries and raspberries, for which the Red Hill soil and climate seem eminently
adapted.
" LITTLE BRIDGE FARM."
(As Sheila Skidmore's only clue to the location of Little Bridge Farm was that William McIlroy, from Littlebridge, Moneymore, in Northern Ireland, moved his wife and 9 children into a log cabin built on 700 acres of land after they finally arrived in 1862; he'd saved twice to provide the fare to bring them out.
To establish where on the many McIlroy grants the homestead stood, it was no good ringing ghost busters so who could I call? Bill Huntley of course. Now approaching 94, Bill will definitely be at the "Back To", if ,as he says,he's still around. He told me that the homestead was on the south side of McIlroys Rd at the first bend from Red Hill Rd and was situated near a spring. This would probably be just within the south boundary of the Jangerong Flora Reserve in Melway 191 G2 but I'd need to go there with Bill to be absolutely sure.)
Leaving " Hillside," we strike Mr Wm. J. McIlroy's "Little Bridge Farm," containing about 490 acres, of which forty or so are under orchard. It seemed to us that Mr McIlroy had not made the best use of his garden, systematic ploughing between the trees, for example, having to a certain extent been neglected. Otherwise, however, the garden looks well, and produces an abundant supply of fruit. Of apples,the Winter Strawberry variety is extensively grown, also Stone Pippin, Reinette de Canada, Alfriston, and the Scarlet Nonpariel. Of pears, the Napoleon and Beurre de Capiamont look nice, and of plums, the Diamond variety attracted our notice most.Mr .McIlroy has about seven acres under strawberries also.
It is strange that the recent death of William McIlroy was not mentioned.
RED HILL
(From Our Own Correspondent.)
Mr Wm. M'Ilroy, of Little Bridge Farm, died last Saturday morning, after a long illness, having been confined to his room for the past fifteen months. Deceased was 84 years of age and well-known throughout the Peninsula, being a very old resident. He arrived in the colony in 1854 and for 11 years carried on business in Melbourne. He came to reside here in 1865, and turned his attention to fruit growing, being one of the pioneer orchardists of the district. He had to face many difficulties in the old days, with bad roads, etc. He regularly carted his fruit through to Melbourne till about three years ago. He leaves a family of six, thirty-nine grand-children and -nine great-grand-children. The funeral, which took place on Monday, was largely attended, Mr P. S.
Watsford conducting the service. (P.2, Mornington Standard, 8-3-1902.)
"FOREST LODGE"
(Forest Lodge consisted mainly of crown allotments 23A and B,parish of Kangerong,each consisting of 78 acres 0 roods and 28 perches. The additional 40 acres may have been a third of Robert Coxon Young's grant, 21B adjoining to the west. Melway 161 E-G,part H, 12. North east corner 120 metres north of Craig Avon Lane corner and south east corner at Junction Corner,exactly. )
This property, about 200 acres in extent, formerly H. P. Davey's, is now owned by Mr Clark, who comes from New South Wales. The homestead commands a magnificent view Of Westernport Bay. The property is well laid out, and contains some very rich soil. There are about 30 acres of crop for hay, and about five acres of orchard of mixed sorts, splendidly situated and sheltered.
JONATHAN DAVIS'.
( In 1900, Jonathan was assessed on 28 acres, Kangerong, ditto 1910, which does not help much,except that he
was not on Blooming Bob White's 27 acres, as shown soon and by the 1910 assessments. In the 1919-20 records, the rate collector called him Jonathan Davies but provided the precious information that the 28 acre farm was on crown allotment 19,Kangerong. This was on the north corner of White Hill and McIlroys Rd, Melway 160 K11; section 18, including noseless Bryan Ringrose's grant, the "Four Winds" homestead block and the block granted to Sam Calder, who designed the Shire office at Dromana, was at the south corner.
The online Kangerong map shows very clearly where Jonathans farm was. It consisted of lot 10 of crown allotment 19,consisting of 19a. 3r. 38 p., granted to Jonathan Davis on 10-7-1876 and lots 1,2,3 of Red Hill Township, between lot 10 and McIlroys Rd, for which he progressively obtained the grants from 1879. This gave a combined total of 30 acres 2 roods and 15 acres,but if roods and perches were ignored,the rate collector would have calculated: 19 + 4 + 2 + 3 = 28.)
Facing the Port Phillip side, and giving a good view of the Bay, lies Mr Jonathan Davis'. He has 40 acres
or so, with six acres of young trees coming on, consisting mostly of apples of the Rokewood, Alfriston and
sopus Spitzenburg varieties; also some cherries, and the usual patch of strawberries, without which no Red
Hill orchard is considered complete. Mr Davis goes in for dairying as well,being the lessee of a 60-acre paddock, owned by Miss Strong, which he uses for grazing. He has a separator, and supplies butter to one or two of the storekeepers in the district.
JAS. DAVIS
has five acres under fruit, which yields well. His chief varieties are cherries, plums, apples and pears.
(In 1900, James Davis was assessed on 4 acres and a building, Kangerong; likewise Mrs Fanny Davis in 1910. Perhaps these were the parents and obviously Fanny was a widow by 1910 since her own Christian name was used.It is possible that James and Fanny lived on lot 4, west of lot 3, which was granted to J.(Jackson?)in 1867.
R. WHITE'S.
Mr White's property comes next. He, too, has a good residence site, giving a fine view of the Bay. Mr White has some fruit trees and a small crop.
The Kangerong online map referred to re Jonathan and James Davis is an updated map and Appleyard's 20C actually contains land in crown allotment 19, as well as some township blocks. Blooming Bob White had the 17a 3r. 12p. granted to "Skipper Moore" (who, with William Henry Blakeley owned a Bay trader) on 1-1-1878 as shown; Bob's 27 acre farm consisted of this land and an adjoining block, all fronting White Hill Rd. The three blocks of about 9 acres can be seen on a map at the Dromana Museum; toolaroo has shown the precise position of his ancestor's farm in "Peninsula Pioneers."
Red Hill had two people called Robert White in the same era. This Robert White was known as "Blooming Bob" White (who despised swearing and used this alternative a lot) and from 1875 to about 1992,he was a pioneer of Rosebud,owning Section 18 Wannaeue, bounded by Pt Nepean Rd, Adams Avenue, Eastbourne Rd and Jetty Rd. By 1890 he had bought 27 acres in White Hill Rd on the north corner of McIlroys Rd, consisting of three Red Hill township blocks of about 9 acres each.
His sister married one of the James boys who lived near the future Main Ridge cricket ground but because of the difficulty of obtaining a minister, the ceremony did not take place until after young Robert's birth so his name on his birth certificate was recorded as Robert White. Brought up as Robert James, and granted c/a 27A, section B, Wannaeue under that name, he discovered his original name on the document he required to marry Miss Roberts. He was a bullocky and became known as "Bullocky Bob" White; he and Edward Williams carted the old lighthouse to the Arthurs Seat Summit as a lookout tower, and Whites Rd,off Purves Rd was named after Bullocky or his descendants.
There's plenty more to tell, such as the White connection to the Hillis family and the Cairns connection in Clackmannon, Scotland, but if you want to know it all,you'll have to private message family tree circle's Toolaroo, who lives in N.S.W., and ask him if there are any spare copies of his book, "Peninsula Pioneers".
WHEELER'S.
Mrs Wheeler has the Post Office and Store, which has been established for over 30 years. There are about
seven acres of orchard attached to the property, mostly young trees; also a little strawberry plantation, as well as a crop.
After Mr Wheeler's death his widow and descendants carried on the post office for many years. The post office still has the postal boxes at the front but is a private residence. The township blocks were on both sides of White Hill Rd near McIlroys Rd, as you will see in the middle of the Kangerong map. Recently known as the Post Office Art Gallery and now just plain 710 White Hill Rd, the old post office,about which there will be much information in Helen Blakeley's forthcoming book,is located in Melway 160 K12.
HILL'S.
(Extract from my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF RED HILL journal.
HILL.
An article entitled "Around Red Hill" on page 2 of the Mornington Standard of 30-8-1902 described Mr Hill's property. Up the hill from the post office (710 White Hill Rd at Melway 160 K 12) was Mr Hill's property on about 12 acres on a well-situated slope with a 6 roomed house. Mr hill was presently at St Kilda.
The 1900 rates reveal that Arthur E.Hill was assessed on 60 acres, 18B, Kangerong. This allotment of 59 acres 3 roods and 14 perches, granted to the noseless Bryan Ringrose, was bounded on the east and north by lines extending Andrews Lane and Tumbywood Rd until they meet. (Approximately Melway 190 K 1.) The 12 acre block in 1902 would have been a part of this 60 acre block. )
Up the hill from Wheeler's is Mr Hill's property, comprising about 12 acres, situated on a well-sheltered
slope. A 6-roomed house is erected here. The orchard is a young one, planted about three years ago. Be
sides the usual varieties, there is an acre of lemons, which are looking fairly well. Mr Hill is at present a
resident of St. Kilda, but it is understood intends to take up his abode here shortly.
F. & H DAVIS'.
(By 1900 Fred and Henry Davis had 35 and 43 acres respectively in the parish of Kangerong, on which Fred, an orchardist, and Henry,a labourer,were again assessed in 1910. In the 1919-20 record,both blocks were shown to be on crown allotment 10B, Kangerong. Bounded by Tumbywood Rd,Sheehan Rd (the original south end of White Hill Rd until Wiseman's Deviation was made),a road frontage of 205 metres west from Sheehans Rd and a western boundary touching the end of Holmes Rd,the 172 acre property was granted to Robert Caldwell who lost this and another property,the Fairy Vineyard, because of insolvency*. New owners of 10B were obviously ready to subdivide it in 1881. (*See article in comment 15.) )
Opposite is Messrs F. and H. Davis' who go in for potato growing. They have been very successful with this
crop, having had as much as 10 tons to the acre. They also cultivate maize and peas, and have an acre or so of
strawberries.
ARKWELL'S. (C/A's 12AB Kangerong, Melway 190 JK 2-4,between Arkwells Lane, extended to White Hill Rd, and Andrews Lane, extended the same distance.)
Were a prize awarded for the best kept orchard in the district, the Messrs Arkwell would have a big say in it.
Their 20 acres are well laid out, with the trees trimmed up in the proper style, and the whole presenting a nice, neat appearance. They have about 9 acres of strawberries in. The late Mr Arkwell was, by the way, the pioneer grower of strawberries in this district. Besides fruit, they make a speciality of flower growing, and send large quantities of blooms and bulbs to Melbourne florists, chiefly daffodils, tulips and hyacinths.
T. CLEINE'S.
(Thomas Henry Cleine was assessed on 45 acres, Kangerong in 1900 and 1910. It could have been anywhere in the parish of Kangerong, although the "special representative" has narrowed down its location somewhat. The only Cleine assessed in 1919 was Karl Cleine,who, if I remember correctly had married a McIlroy girl, and was assessed on 30 acres of 14B Kangerong, a McIlroy grant north of the Mechanics Rd,Station Rd junction; I believe this was Cleine's Corner.
In 1919, E.L. and Charles Albert Trewin were assessed on 40 acres and buildings (part 72B)and 45 acres and buildings (part 10B, Kangerong.) The first property had been George Hoskens' in 1902 and it seems most likely that the second property had been Thomas Cleine's in 1902. It was therefore in 10B Kangerong and being opposite the state school and Mr Wiseman'shad to be on the west side of the road between the Tumbywood and Sheehans Rd corners.
On the opposite side is Mr Thomas Cleine's. Here there are eight acres of orchard in the young stage, three of which were planted this year, and the remainder is just about coming into bearing. Strawberries are planted
extensively. This property promises very well.
WISEMAN'S.
(c/a 11AB Kangerong, bounded by the road from Moat's Corner (now Sheehans Rd)and Arkwells Lane. The present south end of White Hill Rd was built on a more suitable route through this property and called Wiseman's Deviation. The original Red Hill School site, in the angle between Arkwells Lane and (today's) Sheehans Rd, was leased from James Wiseman for many years. Alf Hanson was a pupil there and at the second school, and recalled Miss Shaw, who married Reg Sheehan, being his first teacher. He adds:"Only about fifty yards from the old Red Hill school site was Wiseman's property." (i.e. the forge and possibly house))"I used to love watching Mr Wisemn in his blacksmith's shop. Hewas afine gentleman, with grey-white whiskers that were about a foot long....I believe Mr Wiseman built an iron pushbike that is supposedly in the Melbourne Museum. One of his daughters, Jean Wiseman, sold apples for a ha'penny each; they were big Northern Sky apples,beautiful to eat when fresh." P.12-13, MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN. )
Opposite Mr Cleine's is the State School and Mr Wiseman's blacksmith's shop. Mr Wiseman, an old and respected resident here, has about 200 acres altogether, a small portion of which is planted with fruit.
JOHN SHEEHAN'S.
(In 1900 John Sheehan was assessed on 20 acres,Kangerong. Robert Sheehan's name was written as the person to be rated on 40 acres and house but this was crossed out, most likely an indication that he had been assessed on the property in 1899. As the Flinders and Kangerong Shire had followed the Kangerong Road Board practice of listing ratepayers alphabetically,rather than geographically as the Flinders Road Board had done until 1874 when the road districts were amalgamated to form the shire, rate collectors would copy the previous year's record and make amendments as necessary.
In 1910,John Sheehan, hotelkeeper of the New Treasury Hotel in Spring St, Melbourne, was assessed on land and buildings in McCulloch St, Dromana, John Sheehan, a Red Hill farmer,on 22 acres and buildings, Kangerong, and Mrs Robert Sheehan ,Red Hill farmer,on 28 acres lot 6 of 10B,Kangerong.
In 1919, Robert Sheehan (Blackburn) and John Sheehan (Red Hill) were jointly assessed on lots 6 and 5 of 10B, Kangerong, each of twenty seven and a half acres and 11 acres (part c/a 8* Kangerong.)
(* Crown allotment 8,granted to George McLear is now the part of Arthurs Seat State Park in Melway 160 F12 and 190 F1.)
It seems likely that the 55 acres of 1919 was the 60 acres of 1899 and the 50 acres of 1910,so it could be safely assumed that John Sheehan's farm in 1902 was in c/a 10B on the west side of Sheehans Rd.
Alterations have been made in 1919, John Sheehan's name being crossed out and the names of Albert Smith and Gordon Stephens substituted, apparently only for lot 5.
Albert Sheehan of Murtoa, where the Sheehans settled for a long time, en route from South Australia, and William Alfred Holmes met his bride of 1882, was assessed on 50 acres (part 23B2 Wannaeue) in 1919. There is no 23B2 shown on the Wannaeoe parish map and this was most likely 23A1 of 52 acres 1 rood and 8 perches,part of 146 acres granted to J.Bayne (James or John Bayne)of the family that received grants at Red Hill South (about which I've written a journal inspired by a Hill 'n' Ridge article.) The (roughly) 50 acre block is indicated by Melway 171 H5. It is possible that 23B2 meant lot 2 of 23B granted to William Hillis. Crown allotment 23B,of 153 acres, fronted Main Creek Rd south of the Whites Rd corner to the line of Wilsons Rd,roughly Melway 171 K 5-6 , including most of Splitters Creek in J 5-6.)
A little higher up the road is Mr John Sheehan's. This orchard is divided into two, one portion being devoted to cherries, and the other to apples, pears and lemons. The last named have been planted about two years, and look very well. There is every reason to believe the lemon will do well here. More land is being cleared on this block, with a view to extending the orchard.
BLAKELEY'S.
( The 140 acre property was crown allotment 72A, Balnarring,on the east corner of Mornington-Flinders Rd and Red Hill Rd with the north east corner just east of Sheehans Rd and the south west corner where the road enters Melway 190 D5. If William Henry Blakeley had succeeded in 1884, Helen Blakeley would be writing a completely different book,with only a passing reference to Red Hill and the property would have had a different owner in 1902. Had William fallen out of love with Holding's grant? No. Helen Blakeley,who has only to add the illustrations to complete her book,states, "Yes xxx found this also - it was a knee jerk reaction to the death of his eldest son."
FARM for SALE, 140 acres, well fenced and
watered, subdivided, 36 acres cleared, good
land, large orchard, latest fruit, two houses, sheds,
etc., near Dromana. Apply W. H. Blakeley, 116
Russell-street, Melbourne. (P.4, Bendigo Advertiser, 14-1-1884.)
Mr Blakley has a nice property, on which there is a commodious villa. He has about 20 acres of orchard in full bearing, giving very heavy yields. There are several strawberry plots, and about 20 acres under crop. Mr Hunt,
late of Wandin, manages this place.
N.B.By 1919,Thomas Chapman had 60 acres and building, part 9A,72 A, Balnarring and William Henry Blakeley of 115 Lonsdale St,Melbourne had 80 acres and building(s?), part crown allotment 72A Balnarring.
HOSKEN'S.
(Mr Hosken had to be on 72B, Balnarring on Mornington Finders Rd between Blakeley's 140 acres and Alfred Head's grants (71AB straddling Stony Creek Rd.) This 140 acre property was granted to J.Pitcher and later occupied by carpenter and devout Methodist, Henry Ault, who seems to have died in Gippsland. By 1919, 72B had been split into two properties, of 100 acres owned by Major J.N.Shaw of the Queensland fort, and E.L.Trewin who had 40 acres and a building. I think I remember mention of Shaw's saw mill at Red Hill so Trewin probably had the cleared section near the homestead with Shaw exploiting the uncleared part.
George Hoskens had quite some success in the 1903 Kangerong Show with his apples and his wife won a few prizes too.The show report actually got the spelling of Prossor correct:
KANGERONG SHOW. A SUCCESSFUL FUNCTION.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 14 March 1903 p 3 Article.
George was on the committee for the show for several years.)
Mr Hosken's is another example of a well-kept orchard. He grows apples mostly, also some pears, and strawberries, of course.
POSTSCRIPT. YARNS OVER THE BOUNDARY FENCE.
My guesses aren't always right but if I was betting on them,I'd be well ahead.
EXTRACT FROM THE SIMPSON ENTRY IN PIONEER PATHWAY,DROMANA.
On 6-4-1891, Fred Simpson started work at Blakeley's; part of its 140 acres is now occupied by the Consolidated School. Henry Ault's 140 acre block (Joseph Pitcher's grant, Melway 190 E-F5) was south of Blakeley's and had been bought by George Hoskins whose nephew, George William Russ was working with him. Fred's father, Joseph, did a fruit and vegetable run, which included Ellerslie, the beachside retreat of Sargood, whose main residence was the famed Rippon Lea* at Elsternwick. On occasions, Fred would do this delivery run. And who should be a servant at Ellerslie but Emily Russ, who was highly regarded by Mrs Sargood, who supplied Fred's future wife with a glowing reference. Fred met his brother in law (as they worked on 72A and 72B) before he met his bride. I bet Emily knew all about Fred before he arrived at Ellerslie! (SOURCE: Margaret Connell, nee Simpson, of Simpson St,Red Hill South.)
By the way,see the mention of Hoskins' trap taking Bobby Wilson to Mornington after the accident, under the farm that the "special representative" did not discuss, HANSON'S "ALPINE CHALET" (after Fern Valley and J.Hopcraft's.)
"FERN VALLEY."
( c/a's 71A1 and 71B Balnarring; Melway 190,E-F7, E-G,part H 8,that is east to the creek.
Alf later renamed his property as Musk Creek.
Extract re the Head family from my DICTIONARY HISTORY OF RED HILL journal.
Alfred Head was granted 71B, Balnarring, consisting of 116 acres 2 roods and 22 perches, on 5-5-1874.This allotment has a frontage of 1360 metres to the south side of Stony Creek Rd and 3346 metres to Mornington-Flinders Rd. On 26-5-1884, Alfred received the grant for 71A of 83 acres 1 rood and 18 perches on the north side of Stony Creek Rd and fronting Mornington-Flinders Rd, with frontages of 882 and 386 metres respectively.
The eastern and northern extents of the allotment are indicated by Pardalote Rise.
In 1919, Alfred Head seems to have been leasing 71B (116 acres) from the Jarmans. Norm Prossor (Sid Prossor's father and the son of Henry Prossor) had 43 acres of 71A and Wallace Jarman the remaining 40 acres. It is possible that Alfred Head in this case was Alfred Charles Head, only son of the 1874(or earlier) pioneer.
"Around Red Hill", the August 1902 article, referred to Alfred's property as Fern Valley*. Interestingly, it gives his name as A.C.Head so Charles was probably his second given name. Alfred had a 15 acre orchard but concentrated mainly on vegetables, mainly peas, beans and potatoes for which he finds a ready market at Sorrento in Summer. He also has success with his hay crops. (No doubt the hay went to Stringer's Store to be sold to cabbies who competed with Coppin's tramway for the Amphitheatre trade as well as conveying passengers along the White Road (Pt Nepean Rd) to Canterbury etc.) The Cairns of Maroolaba and the Pattersons of Final had this contract while they had a contact at the store, but Alfred may have had a more influential contract after whom Lentell Ave (Melway 157 A5) was named.
(* In his letter, in the capacity of Returning Officer, congratulating George McLear on his sixth successive election as F&K Shire auditor, Alfred gave his address as "Musk Creek". The two tributaries of Musk Creek start at Melway 190 F6 in the southern part of Joseph Pitcher's grant and join in Alf's 14A, flowing through Alf's 14B before emptying into Stony Creek on William Hopcraft's grant.
While researching THE FEMALE DROVER:A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC, I read in a heritage study that Alfred Head had leased Dalkeith Park (Melway 150 H8 to 151 C8), the farm later owned by Mr Vale whose daughter, Mrs Jackson, used the property for her equestrian event and race horses, hence Jackson's Hill climbing towards Range Rd from the Mornington turn off.
The Argus reports of sheep sales indicate that Head and Brady were occupying Dalkeith Park on 29-9-1897(P.7) and Alfred alone later (31-1-1900,P.5 and 5-8-1903, P. 8.) Why was Alfred in partnership with Brady? True, the Bradys' Mount Evergreen (Melway 190 A-B 9-10) was not far from Fern Valley (190 E-F 7-8 roughly) so they were neighbours. The Mornington Standard of 11-11-1897 has a marriage announcement on page 2 that explains the relationship between the two families.
Marriages. BRADY-HEAD. On Tuesday 2-11-1897 at Dalkeith Park, Mount Martha, Obadiah W.Brady, second son of the late Obadiah Brady of Mount Evergreen, Rosebud, to Mary Elizabeth Rosetta, eldest daughter of Alfred Head Esq., Fern Valley, Red Hill.
And that contact at Stringer's Store (probably a highly valued customer, rather than an employee):
(Argus 7-12-1901, P.9.) Marriages. HEAD-LENTELL. on 19-11-1901 at St John's Church, Sorrento, Alfred Charles, only son of Alfred Head, Red Hill, Dromana, to Emma Mary, youngest daughter of James Lentell, Sorrento, late of Richmond.
Alfred Head was a councillor for the centre riding of the Flinders and Kangerong Shire by 1881 and was re-elected unopposed in 1886 (South Bourke and Mornington Journal 18-8-1886, P.3.) FULL DETAILS OF COUNCILLORS AND THEIR TERMS CAN BE FOUND IN LIME LAND LEISURE*. Alfred was appointed to the Board of Advice for the centre riding of the Shire (Argus 11-7-1885 P.10.)
(*and my SHIRE OF FLINDERS journal.)
Alfred Head was one of the trustees of the Red Hill Wesleyan Methodist Church whose first services were held on 25-1-1885; interestingly, Nelson Rudduck was also a trustee. Sounds like a law-abiding, God-fearing, responsible man doesn't he? So I reckon the following might concern his only son, Alfred Charles.
(Mornington Standard 11-4-1908 page 2.) LOCAL AND GENERAL. Dromana Court. At the last sitting before Messrs N (Nelson) Rudduck and G.(George) McLear J.P.'s, Mr Fulton, Shire Secretary, proceeded against Alfred Head of Red Hill for wilful damage to the road known as Eaton's Cutting by trailing timber or heavy material. Alfred was fined ten shillings and had to pay three pounds twelve shillings and sixpence in costs.
Two children from the Head family were enrolled at the State School when it opened in 1873 in the old schoolhouse at the end of Arkwells Lane.
Somewhere in my countless rates transcriptions, in the assessment of Alf Head (senior or junior?)on his Red Hill property, he is described as a shopkeeper of Sorrento.
A SORRENTO CASE.
A decision of the Sorrento magistrates in a case against Alfred Charles Head,a local grocer, of selling liquor without a licence was quashed by Judge Chomley,etc.
(A SORRENTO CASE.
Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 1857 - 1918) Tuesday 9 May 1905 p 1 Article)
And that's probably why Tyren Head is number 14 for the Sorrento Football Club instead of playing for the Hillmen!)
Mr A. C. Head has a nice property in "Fern Valley." His orchard consists of something like 15 acres, most
of the trees being young ones that are just coming into bearing. Mr Head cultivates vegetables largely,growing very fine crops of peas, beans, potatoes and other sorts, which do well here in the summer months and find a ready market in Sorrento and other places, He is also very successful with hay crops.
J. HOPCRAFT'S.
A splendid flower garden surrounds Mr Hopcraft's house. He has a nice little orchard and a vegetable garden;
also a number of walnut trees. These yield splendidly, and Mr Hopcraft finds no difficulty in disposing of the nuts.
THE SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE'S RATHER BIZARRE ORDERING OF FARMS HAS BEEN NOTED AT THE START OF THE "FARMS" SECTION. JUST AS WELL THE RATE COLLECTORS HAD A MORE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE FARMS AND FARMERS OR THE SHIRE WOULD HAVE GONE BROKE (WHICH IT ALMOST DID ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE 1890'S DEPRESSION.) HE WENT DOWN MORNINGTON-FLINDERS RD TO THE TUCKS RD CORNER (AND JOHN HOPCRAFT'S 70a BALNARRING) AND THEN BACKTRACKED PAST FERN VALLEY,HOSKEN'S AND BLAKELEY'S TO WILDWOOD AND GLENBOWER. THUS I NEED TO INSERT A FARM THAT HE MISSED.
HANSON'S "ALPINE CHALET"
(Crown allotment 70B, granted to William Hopcraft, with a 160+585 metre frontage to the east side of Tucks Rd. Its north west corner was opposite the end of Orchard Way. Melway 190 parts F-G 9-10.)
Extensive rate research reveals that Hans Christian Hanson occupied Alpine Chalet in 1887. Hans (1857-1938) had worked on all the bridges between Melbourne and Bright, and in Newcastle, N.S.W.where Alf was born in 1884, before coming to Red Hill.In 1906, his son Alf (1884-1960) married Frances Ada Elizabeth Purves (of Green Hills in Purves Rd which must have been bought from the Estate of Professor Hearn who built Heronswood). James Wilson, a descendant of Sarah Wilson (see GIVING DESTINY A HAND by Petronella Wilson)had married Barbara Scott Purves, sister of Frances, in 1915, so Bobby Wilson, Jim's brother,was not related to Alf in March 1902. Perhaps the special representative was not at fault for not exploring Tucks Rd and Shoreham Rd in August 1902; perhaps Bobby's life was hanging by a thread and the Hansons(mates)and the Laurissens (Bobby's aunt and uncle) were in no mood to discuss their farms.Bobby, whose head had been split open by an axe during an effort by Alf, aged 17 or 18, and Bobby and Jim Wilson, to chop off a branch which held a bee hive, may have been still in a critical condition five months after the accident. So the Hansons and their neighbours across Stony Creek,the Laurissens and Wilsons, might have felt that the farm article was of minor importance.
In about 1919, when Hec Hanson was about 6, Alf sold part of the property,including the beautiful two storey house between cherry trees on one side and apple trees on the other. The Lessings from Carrum Downs, a family of thirteen, were the buyers,presumably of 69 acres,and Alf had a new home built by Littlejohn the builder on 20 acres on the northern part of the property. While the house was built Alf and his family lived in a house on the Blakeley property. (This may have been the log cabin which was built by Mr Barker (unrelated to the Cape Schanck/Boneo Barkers, and if I remember Helen Blakeley's information correctly,W.H.Blakeley's father in law) on the Outlook Paddock or Eatons Cutting; can't remember which!) Incidentally,Constable Edwards (who later retired to a property near Flinders after injuries received at his next posting up country)found the three after they'd walked a mile and a half (which would take them to about 72 B, where I believe George Hosken's farm was) and with a trap borrowed from Mr Hoskins , Bobby was taken to Dr Somers at Mornington. (Memoirs of a Larrikin.)
HOLMES'.
(c/a's 73A and 73B Balnarring, granted to James McKeown; each consisting of 107 acres 2 roods and 32 perches, a total of 215.1.24. Melway 190 H5 fronting Arthurs Seat Rd from just east of opposite Sheehans Rd to the bend near Poffs,and south nearly to the bottom of G-J6.
This became two farms,Wildwood adjoining Blakeley's near the Sheehans Rd corner, and Glenbower adjoining the Village Settlement 1861 links (374.373648 metres) west of Prossors Lane. In about 1885, James McKeown moved to Gracefield in Boundary Rd, Dromana (between Caldwell Rd and Bryan's Cutting) part of which later became Travers' Sea Haze Estate on the summit of Arthurs Seat,with 74AB passing into the ownership of the Sheehans.
William Alfred Holmes had married a Sheehan girl in 1882 (Holmes genealogy in comments I think)and 74AB later became his. By 1919 many of the crown allotments around Red Hill had been split into two or more farms. William Alfred Holmes had 147 acres, c/a 73A,73B,Balnarring,Fred Nash had lots 6 and 7 of c/a 73AB,consisting of 40 acres,Mrs ?.E.Nash had lot 5 of 20 acres, and Alex Prossor had just replaced Charles William Ward as the occupant of 49 acres and buildings,part 73A. Arithmetic was obviously not the rate collector's strong point, 73AB having miraculously increased from 215 acres to 256 acres! It is likely that Fred Nash's 40 acres were on McConnell's grant 75A,north of Beaulieu Rd,which I was told (by Margaret Connell?) was named by the Nash family (after their native place?) Frederick and Elizabeth Sts were probably named after Nash family members.)
THIS SHOULD NOT BE IN ITALICS!
Mr Holmes has the property formerly in the possession of the late Mr John Sheehan, senr. It is nicely laid out and well stocked with apples, pears, cherries and plums. Several acres are used for cropping.
THE VILLAGE SETTLEMENT.
( For Details about locations of the various village settlement blocks, the death of Charles Thiele and his possible connection to a Doncaster pioneer etc, see my RED HILL VILLAGE SETTLEMENT PIONEERS journal. The "special representative" seems to have gone down Prossors Lane and back up,and then turned right along Arthurs Seat Rd, ,recording occupants on his right, finishing at 74K, "Davidson's" later granted to F.E.Edwards, whose eastern portion was later occupied by the south west end of the railway station (now Red Hill Centrepoint.) Mr Simpson's farm was not on the Village Settlement. )
Next we come to the Village Settlement, and the first place looked at Mr Tom Sandlant's. Four or five years ago this block was heavily timbered, but Mr Sandlant has it fairly well cleared now, and has a well-kept strawberry plantation of 4 acres, besides a tidy-sized bit under crop.
On Mr Chas Thiel's (sic) block, adjoining, some good work has also been done. There are five acres of orchard, and a nice lot of strawberries, besides Cape gooseberries, raspberries, wine berries, and red and black currants, all of which are looking well.
Mr E. Bowring has made a great improvement in his block, since his occupation of it some 12 months ago.He has a couple of acres of orchard coming on, and another two acres of strawberries in, also currants and raspberries. He is very successful with summer vegetables. Mr Bowring is having a 4-roomed house erected,the work being carried out by Mr Thos. Harvey.
Mr H. Prosser(sic) has the adjoining block, and has about 10 acres under cultivation, six of which are growing
fruit trees, most of them coming into bearing. Mr Prosser has for some years been a very successful exhibitor
of fruit and vegetables at the Dromana show, carrying off some of the chief prizes in each section. He grows
some specially fine black currants.
Mr Nash has about six acres, planted with the usual fruits, and has more land cleared and ploughed for extension purposes.
Mr Marshall has devoted his attention largely to peaches and apricots, but they do not seem to be quite so suc-
cessful as the more general kinds of fruits grown about here. He grows vegetables and strawberries also. This
place is kept in very nice order.
Mr Harvey, of "Fernside," has nine acres under cultivation, all orchard. Five acres are planted with strawberries and Cape gooseberries. The orchard is a very compact one, a model of neatness. Mr Harvey has a quantity of passion fruit--a long white variety, resembling the grenadillo-which is laden with fruit, ripening fast, also some Japanese plums. He is extending his orchard.
Mr T Parry has 23 acres under orchard, planted this year.Mr Neave has four acres under cultivation, two of which have just been ploughed. At present he is going infor strawberries principally.
Mr Davidson is also devoting his attention to strawberries.
SIMPSON'S.
(The end of Red Hill Rd was Station Rd which led directly to Baynes Rd (the start of Shoreham Rd.)For the station to be built thissection of the road to Shoreham had to be diverted around the station site,passing through the south east corner of G.Neave's 74 J, and about 4 acres of 74K in the Village Settlement.It then passed through 75A and B,reaching its westernmost point at Beaulieu Rd,as can clearly be seen on Melway. Crown allotment 89A fronting Point Leo Rd (the Blaze Trail)to the bend just before number 202 and the original start of Shoreham Rd (Bayne Rd) to Pine Avenue,was granted to Joseph Simpson.
A BIT OF BACKGROUND.(Extracts from the SIMPSON entry in my journal PIONEER PATHWAY AT DROMANA.)
William McIlroy , a farmer and flax merchant of Littlebridge , County Londonderry, Ireland, sold his property in 1859 and emigrated in 1860. My journal about Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL tells of how Joseph twice raised the money to bring his family out and also explains why Joseph's eldest son, William John, called his McIlroys Rd farm LITTLEBRIDGE. On 13-9-1861, Margaret Jane and the six McIlroy children sailed from Liverpool in the Donald McKay , arriving on 7-12-1861.
Robert and Margaret Simpson, also had a farm and flax mill in County Tyrone. (The boundary between the two counties is obviously a stream which ran the flax mill as the McIlroy and Simpson farms were two miles apart, as they later were at Red Hill.) Two of their sons, Thomas James and Joseph were born in Kingsmill, Joseph on 26-11-1837. During the gold rush to New Zealand in about 1868 they migrated there. After a while Joseph went to Melbourne and contacted the McIlroys who had been close neighbours in Ireland. On 8-10-1870, he married Mary Ann McIlroy, who was born in 1849, at the Presbyterian church in Richmond.
Joseph Simpson and his bride went to New Zealand and mining with Thomas James was resumed. Their only two children, Thomas John and Frederick Joseph were born at Hokatika on the South Island on 8-7-1871 and 5-10-1872 respectively. Soon after the latter birth, the family went to Red Hill and settled on Crown Allotment 89A Balnarring whose boundaries were exactly as I had specified, according to Margaret Connell. Joseph named his property Bayview, his homestead being on the 50 acres later re-granted to Noel in 1922. The farm was later divided into two and the southern part was called Seaview......
By 26-11-1916, Thomas Simpson had 20 acres and Frederick Simpson 71 acres of 89A. (That's only 91 acres!) T.Reeves of Fitzroy Gardens had 52 acres of Bayview, most likely the north west corner that was resumed and re-granted under the Closer Settlement Act. ......
As explained before, I only did extensive rate transcriptions for Kangerong and Wannaeue parishes. However for my Red Hill research, I transcribed 1919-20 Balnarring assessments near Red Hill Rd, meaning to do crown allotment 89 but forgetting to do so; it looks like another date with the microfiche on Monday. However, I did record that Thomas John Simpson had 20 acres and building, lot 8, 75 A and B. This did not mean that his 20 acre block was on both A and B, but that the entire subdivision was. The interesting thing is that 75AB was directly over Shoreham Rd from 89A. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the 20 acre block was between Baynes St and the new course of Shoreham Rd. )
Mr Simpson has some 20 acres of orchard and about 12 acres under crop. He has seven or eight acres planted with strawberries. His place has a neat and trim appearance, the orchard particularly being well cared for.
CHAS. CLEINE'S.
(Assuming there was some sort of logic in the"special representative's" movements,I would guess that Charles Cleine was the Karl Cleine of 1919, who had 30 acres on c/a 14 A Kangerong (a William McIlroy grant) north of the Mechanics Rd/ Station Rd corner (Cleine's Corner?))
Mr Chas Cleine has some 20 acres under orchard, which has come to be noted for its large cherry yields. These generally come in late and secure good prices, up to 14s per case being realised for Black Margarets last season. Apples, pears and plums also bear largely. Mr Cleine has three or four acres of strawberries and about
a dozen acres under crop. Included in the latter are a couple of acres of wheat, which is doing well.
(To be continued.) (P.2,Mornington Standard,30-8-1902.)
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RE SOME RARELY MENTIONED BALNARRING RESIDENTS WHOSE FARMS ARE DESCRIBED IN THE FOLLOWING WEEK'S ARTICLE.
Mr Farrell, Mann and Morris,while not being often mentioned in the history of Banarring, and relatively new to the area, took a prominent part in a meeting of ratepayers (in the East Riding of the Flinders and Kangerong Shire)at Balnarring in 1903. Mr Cleaves and F.Jennings (probably one of the English brothers who arrived in 1898) had a bit to say too.
RATEPAYERS' MEETING AT
BALNARRING.
A well attended meeting of the ratepayers of the East Riding of the Flinders and Kangerong Shire was held in the Balnarring hall on Wednesday evening. Mr Buckley, who convened the meeting, was voted to the chair. After his opening remarks, in which he expressed his regret at the absence of the candidates, he read a letter from Mr R. Stanley, embodying that gentleman's views and apologising for his enforced absence through illness.
Immediately following the reading of Mr Stanley's letter the following resolution was moved by Mr H. Farrell, and seconded by Mr Mann, "That this meeting of ratepayers of the East Riding accepts Mr Stanley's explanation of his inability to attend this meeting, and accepts the written statement of his views which he has submitted." This was carried. After a few remarks regarding Cr Davies' conduct in absenting himself, and
failing to tender any explanation of his absence, the following resolution was moved by Mr R. Morris, and seconded by Mr Mann, "That this meeting express its emphatic disapproval of Cr Davies' action in refusing to attend this meeting to place his views before ratepayers, and to give an account of his actions in the council as our representative." This way carried.
A discussion dealing, with the resident officer* question and topics of interest to the shire then ensued. The principal speakers were Messrs W. Oswin, H. Farrell, Cleaves, Mann, A. Farrell, Morris, and F.Jennings. The following resolution was then moved by Mr Cleaves,and seconded by Mr Mann, "That this meeting approves of having a resident officer appointed without delay." This was carried unanimously.
(P.2,Mornington Standard,22-8-1903.)
*If I remember correctly the clerk or engineer (Moore?)concurrently performed the same role(s) for the Mornington shire as well, residing in Mornington.
ABOUT BALNARRING. SOME PROPERTIES DESCRIBED. [By Our Special Representative.]
A. E BENNETT.
(At the time the article was written Alfred Ernest Bennett was in the process of moving from Kent Orchard (79 B, Balnarring; Melway 191 HJ 1,2- to Seven Oaks, 79A Balnarring -Melway 161 J1,2 Fronting Red Hill and Junction Rds. In comment 16,there is a very long article about Bennett on Kent Orchard. I won't bore you with extensive rates information about A.E.Bennett and presumed relatives at Bittern North,John Shand etc. His friends were celebrating at Seven Oaks soon after he carried his bride over the threshhold and their first child was born in 1903.
Mr A. E. Bennett, who arrived at his residence, " Seven Oaks Farm," Red Hill, a few days ago with his bride, was tendered a musical evening by his numerous friends. The music was chiefly instrumental and many striking and original selections were rendered on a dozen bullock bells andan equal number of kerosene tins.
( PERSONAL PARS.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Saturday 22 November 1902 p 2 Article)
(Family Notices
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Saturday 8 August 1903 p 9 Family Notices
... of A. E. Bennett, "Seven Oaks," Red Hill --a son.)
On setting out to complete our tour around Ralnarring, the first place visited was Mr A. E. Bennett's. This
gentleman, who owns the large orchard rented by Mr John Shand*, is now engaged in planting a new one in an ad-joining paddock. The aspect, though perhaps a little exposed on one side to wind, is in other respects highly suitable as a site for an orchard.. About eight acres of trees have just been planted, also a small area of strawberries Mr Bennett also intends to devote some of his time to poultry farming and has selected the Buff Orpington variety as the best suited for his purpose. The handsome house, with its up-to-date conveniences. would appear to indicate that Mr Bennett will not be much longer a bachelor.
(* Fruit-growers are in high glee over the improved prices of fruit. Although some lost heavily by the recent storms, others have fair crops. Mr J. Shand, of Kent Orchard, sent 350 cases of cases of apples for export last week, and is likely to send 2000 more. (P.2, Mornington Standard,8-3-1902.)
PEMBROKE.
(During our road tour of the Red Hill district,91 year old Bill Huntley pointed out some land east of Kentucky and said it was owned by Robert Morris and named Pembroke. I knew exactly why it was so-named and one day I may get around to finishing my journal, reproducing my THE FEMALE DROVER: A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC, inspired by Shirley Walter,nee Bourne,the female drover, which has much detail,including this family notice.
MORRIS-JONES. - [Silver Wedding.] - On the 11th June, 1900, at Spring Farm, Moorooduc, by the Rev. A. P. McFarland, assisted by the Rev. Edwards, Robert H., second eldest son of the late Mr and Mrs Morris, Chapel Farm, Pembroke,South Wales, to Mary, second daughter of the late Mr and Mrs Edward Jones, of Spring
Farm, Moorooduc. (Present Address: Penbank, Moorooduc.)
(P.1, Argus,11-6-1925.)
N.B. Penbank was on the south side of Mornington-Tyabb Rd west of Jones Corner in the parish of Moorooduc and was named after a place in Wales where Edward Jones had lived. The property had been subdivided by 1925 and Robert and Mary were probably on the portion today occupied by the Penbank School; the name for the school was suggested by David Shepherd, whose father (descended from an early Somerville pioneer) had married another daughter of Edward Jones. Pembroke Drive at Somerville was probably named because of the Unthank orchard in that area*, Mrs Unthank being a sister of Mrs Robert Morris whose husband came from Pembroke.(*Source: Murray Gomm.)
Crown allotment 13A, Balnarring,north east corner of Tubbarubba and Bittern-Dromana Rd,125 acres granted to Edward Jones on 21-8-1878. Melway 162 CD10-11.)
About a mile from Mr Bennett's, on the road to.Bittern, is a young orchard of about eight acres, belonging to Mr Morris. This gentleman, who is manager of the Hon F. S. Grimwade's estate (Coolart-itellya), is unable to give much of his attention to working the land and otherwise looking after the young trees, and has consequently to arrange with a competent man to attend to his orchard whenever it requires it. Although
at present the land needs ploughing, the trees are looking healthy and are making good growth.
FARRELL BROS'.(See HURLEY.)
(I am having trouble fitting the correspondent's description of his route with 800 acres that Alf Downward would have previously owned but I have found some information that may relate to the Farrell brothers. Even though the first article was published in W.A., H.Farrell seemed to be a Victorian.
PAPER BY MR. H. FARRELL. GARDENING FOR AMATEURS.
Bunbury Herald (WA : 1892 - 1919) Wednesday 23 August 1893 p 3 Article
The Farrells would seem to have bought their property in 1895 and didn't take long to start contributing to the Balnarring community.
FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.
- BALNARRING.
The annual meeting of the Balnarring Cricket Club was held at "Wanawee (sic)*" last week, when the secretary reported that there was 10s in hand from the previous year, while the proceeds of the dances held during the winter amounted to 6 10s, the club thus commencing the season with 8 in hand. The number of matches played last year were 22; 11 were won, 5 lost, and 6 drawn, The following office bearers were appointed ;-President, Mr J. Davies ; captain, Mr D. Buckley; secretary, W. Oswin ; general and match committee, Buckley, Kerr, Davies, Farrell and Oswin. (P.2,Mornington Standard,10-9-1896.) (*Warrawee, 27AB, Balnarring,Melway 193 B-C3.)
The only thing that makes sense is that the correspondent was referring to Myers Rd as being the road to Bittern; this road leads directly to Bittern Railway station and five miles to the west on the north side of Myers Rd is the source of Bulldog Creek (Melway 162 B7)on Alf Downward's grant,crown allotment 8, Balnarring. Alf had much land adjoining to the north which probably amounted to much more than 800 acres.With others Alf was applying in 1895 for a mining lease near the Tubbarubba Diggings on the eastern end of Sir William Clarke's portion of Jamieson's special survey (which Alf was to buy in 1907)so Alf probably sold 800 acres of his Balnarring land to finance his mining operations and his purchases of potentially gold-rich land.
Continuing along the Bittern road we come to a property of 800 acres, owned by Messrs Farrell Bros., who combine fruit-growing with dairying. They came to the district some six years ago and purchased their present
property from Mr Downward, M.L A. They have now established, on the side of a hill, 20 acres of young trees;
mostly apples and apricots. The aspect and drainage of this thriving orchard appear perfect, while it is splen-
didly sheltered from the prevailing winds. Ploughing and pruning operations have just been completed in this
orchard and it presents a most satisfactory appearance. Mr H. Farrell has already acquired a local reputation
as an authority on pruning and the trees in the orchard bear ample evidence of his skill in that direction.
This year each tree received a top dressing of artificial manure. In order to profitably employ their spare time until their orchard comes into full bearing, these gentlemen engage in dairying during the spring and summer months. They have a separator, driven by steam power, and capable of dealing with 60 gallons of milk per hour. The cream is carted to Bittern, about five miles away, and sent by rail to town. The dairy is built on the most approved lines, having double walls and roof, and is ventilated in a most ingenious manner by underground pipes, which enables them to keep their cream at a low temperature on the hottest day. The building, comprising milking-shed, stable and barn, is among the most striking features on this well-ordered farm.
BUCKLEY'S.
( The correspondent has obviously turned right down Balnarring Rd* when he reached John and Catherine Buckley's "Erinlea" which I believe was on c/a 107A,parish of Bittern, which is now the Buckley Nature Conservation Reserve (Melway 162 J8.)*WRONG! The Cr.John Buckley entry in my SHIRE OF FLINDERS journal will probably confirm if this belief is correct. I was aware of the Balnarring Catholic Church at the time of writing the entry.
*ERINLEA.
A google search for "Erinslea, Balnarring" will show the location of the 140 acre property on which John Buckley was assessed in the first rates record of the Flinders Road Board in 1869. A website about the Buckley Nature Conservation Reserve states that it adjoins Erinslea but the farm is separated from the reserve's south east corner by William Hurley's 107B and John Oswin's 108A. I need to consult this map again to match the boundaries with crown allotments on my Bittern parish map.(Unfortunately no online Bittern maps show grantees.)
John Buckley was granted 106A Bittern on 5-10-1874. This crown allotment is now bisected (on the google map for Erinlea) by an access road heading due north from Bittern-Dromana Rd five thirteenths of the way from Balnarring Rd to Stumpy Gully Rd. It continues past the northern boundary of 106A, and 105B1 (said to be 36a.0r.11p. but actually 36a.1r.21p) which John may have been granted in 1879 (date almost obliterated on the public records office microfiche of the original map.) In 1865 (NOT 1861!), John Buckley selected 185 acres which was probably 106A and 105B (93.1.8+ 93.2.24= 186.3.32)but Peter Meehan purchased 106 B2 (52.3.16 of 106B and 47.1.3 of 105B=100.0.19) in 1884. John Buckley purchased exactly 40 acres of 106 B (called 106B1) in 1894. It would seem that John Buckley and Peter Meehan had come to an arrangement to swap some of the land they had settled some time between 1865 and 1869. In view of John Buckley starting with 185 acres in 1865 and apparently giving up part of 105B by 1869,the 140 acres on which John was assessed in 1869, and for many years afterwards,would have only have been an estimate of his lease-holding from the Crown. It was actually 93.1.8+ 36.1.21,a total of 129 acres 2 roods 29 perches. It is possible that his lease included another 10 acres or so of 105B which he did not wish to include in his purchase. With 108B, 106A and 106B1, John Buckley had 76% of the frontage to the north side of Dromana-Bittern Rd from Balnarring Rd (Chapel Corner) to Stumpy Gully Rd,with Peter Meehan having the remaining 403 metres and a 790 metre frontage north along Stumpy Gully Rd. It is likely that John applied the name Erinlea to the whole 1234 metre Bittern Rd frontage.
MELWAY.All crown allotments are in the parish of Bittern: c/a 108B=162 K11; c/a 106A= 163 AB11 and bottom half of 10, c/a 106B1= 163 eastern 3/4 of C11 and bottom half 10; c/a 105B1= 163,top half AB 10.
1865.not 1861.
OPENING OF THE AGRICULTURAL AREAS. MELBOURNE.
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Tuesday 23 May 1865 p 5 Article (SELECTED SETTLERS ONLY.)
SETTLER........AREA............RENT.....PARISH.
Thos. New -- 379a. 3r. 12p.-- L9/0/0 Kangerong.
Paul Vansuylen 119 0 4--------6 0 0 Balnarring.
Larus With --- 321 1 0--------16 2 0 Do.
Wm. M'Ilroy-- 184 2 10 -------7 15 0 Kangerong.
Jas. Buchanan 632 1 29 -------31 13 0 Balnarring.
J.Buckley---- 187 1 8-------- 9 8 0 Bittern.
J.R.Edgar---- 276 0 0,--------13 16 0 Balnarring.
LAND SELECTION IN MELBOURNE. Monday, May 22.
Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 1857 - 1918) Tuesday 23 May 1865 p 3 Article
The grand land scramble of 1865, commenced today, in Melbourne, at the Exhibition Building, when the agricultural areas of Moranding, Mount M'Mahon, and, Andersonbawn were thrown open for selection......
in the area of Andersonsbawn, J. Buckley was the only selector, and he took 187 acres parish of Bittern.
OBITUARY
NONEGENARIAN PASSES.
Mrs. Catherine Agnes Buckley died at her residence at Balnarring on October 11, aged 92 years. She was an
Australian native, having been born at Pakenham. She was one of the pioneers of the Balnarring district,
where she settled with her husband, the late Mr. John Buckley, 70 years ago.
In spite of her great age, Mrs. Buckley's memory was remarkably retentive and she could relate happenings of many years ago quite clearly. She had a family of 11 children-six sons and five daughters. One son and one daughter predeceased her. One of her sons is Cr. David Buckley, a member of the Flinders Shire Council. Another son, Mr Thomas Buckley, is a stationmaster and is now stationed at Camperdown.
The funeral took place in the Crib Point Cemetery on October 13. There was a large gathering of mourners
at the grave, many old friends travelling long distances to be present. Many beautiful wreaths were placed
on the coffin. Requiem Mass was celebrated at the Balnarring R.C. Church by the Rev. Fr. Fitzpatrick, who also read the burial service.
The casket was carried by her five sons and a grandson. The pallbearers were Cr. Myers, Messrs. W. Garry, R. Johnson, J. Meehan, P. Nowlan, B. Neville, Cr. Van Suylen and J. West.
(P.4,Frankston and Somerville Standard, 22-10-1937.)
The heritage study (below) also reminded me that Balnarring Rd was also referred to in early days as Buckley Rd.
Hastings District Heritage Study - Mornington Peninsula Shire
www.mornpen.vic.gov.au/files/.../Strategic_HastHeritageStudyVol2.pdf
Page 70.
St John's Catholic Church Balnarring was built in 1881 on land donated by Mr John Buckley on the corner of Bittern-Dromana and Balnarring-Mornington Roads. This was known as 'Chapel Corner' for many years. At this time
Balnarring was part of the Parish of Mornington. When Hastings became a parish in 1956, Balnarring became a part of that parish. The church closed in December 1972.
In an effort to determine the location of the 700 acres mentioned in the description below, I discovered that Disney St seemed to be called Buckley's Rd when some properties near Pearce and Jellicoe Rds were being sold because of unpaid rates in 1948. I also found this.
THURSDAY MAY 10
3 p.m. At Scott s Hotel Melb.,MORNINGTON PENINSULA. ON EASY TERMS.
GIPPSLAND AND NORTHERN CO-OP CO LTD 623 Collins St,Melb (Phone MU8141) and PETER E KERR Mornington In Conj will SELL by AUCTION as Above A/c Exors in the Est of the Late C A Buckley
502 Acs Fronting Bittern Dromana Road. Land is Level and Gently Undulating Interspersed with Rich Flats
and is Well Suited for Fattening Lambs and Cattle or for Dairying
Situation 3 Mls Balnarring Beach, 2 Mls Station Store and P O, 10 Mls Mornington and Only 45 Mls Melb. High School and State School Buses Within Few Minutes Walk.
Property Is Well Watered with Perm Springs large Underground Tank at House 8 r House Large Woolshed Yards and Implement shed Well sheltered with Timber Belts Ample Firewood. This Prop Must be Sold to Windup the Estate etc. (P.16,Argus, 18-4-1951.)
Three miles from Balnarring Beach , via Balnarring Beach Rd and Balnarring Rd, would bring us to Melway 163 A12, and via the beach road and Stumpy Gully Rd,3 miles would take us to Melway 163 D-E10. The latter is more likely as John Buckley was granted 117AB,Bittern (about 180 acres) at the south east corner of Stumpy Gully and Dromana-Bittern Rds,to which he may have added land adjoining the Balnarring Racecourse on Richardson and Watson's grants.
356 acres 1 rood 6 perches of the above 502 acres can be accounted for by land fronting Dromana-Bittern Rd granted to John Buckley, namely 108B of 32.3.23, 106 A of 93.1.8,105B of 36.1.21, 106B1 of 40 acres,and 117 AB of 79.3.17 each at the south east corner of Stumpy Gully Rd, meaning that the estate now included an extra 146 acres whose location I am not prepared to guess. The 3 miles from Balnarring Beach via Stumpy Gully Rd, with a left turn at Dromana-Bittern Rd, would take us to the south east corner of crown allotment 106 B1,now occupied by Balnarring Vineyard ( near or at 62 Bittern-Dromana Rd in Melway 163 C 11.)
Mr Buckley, who is one of the oldest residents of the district, has for many years carried on dairying on a
large scale, his farm comprising about 700 acres of good grass country, most of which has greatly improved since the commencement of Mr Buckley's tenure, the homestead block being worthy of particular notice as evidence of the thoroughly up-to-date and progressive methods of management adopted. The fallen timber is cleared up, the scrub eradicated, and subdivisional paddocks sown with English grasses. An examination of the
numerous, substantial and, conveniently planned farm buildings, especially those in connection with the dairy,
reveal the exercise of considerable thought in combining economy with efficiency, and a comprehensive knowledge of dairy farming. Until recently Mr Buckley milked on an average about 50 first-class cows,which necessitated a good deal of cultivation for fodder. The different kinds of forage crops favoured are barley, oats and maize for green feed,and Algerian oats for hay, which are supplemented by that most profitable of all foods for dairy cows, viz, bran. Pigs and potatoes also occupy some of Mr Buckley's time and attention, and he has been very successful in both these branches of agriculture. Like all successful farmers he evidently recognises that dairying, pigs and potatoes are the natural adjuncts of each other, the pigs turning into profit the
unmarketable potatoes and surplus skim milk.
And just to finish up, John Buckley asked his Kathleen if a horse could beat her in a race and she replied, "Nay!"
ISSUU - Mornington Life by Mornington Life
issuu.com/morningtonlifemagazine/docs/autumn2013new/6
Mar 29, 2013 - Balnarring Picnic Racing Club Committee member Terry Mulcahy talks. ... early 1860's when Westernport pioneer John Buckley with his mare Kathleen, began to challenge other landowners in the district to a series of races.
HURLEY'S.
( Hurley's homestead, on c/a 109A& 110A, Bittern, remains as HURLEY VINEYARD, Melway 163 A12.
The Hastings Strategic Heritage Study gave the name of the Hurley farm as Hazel Grove and so does this.
Our Balnarring Letter.
The death of Mr William Hurley at his residence, "Hazel Grove," Balnarring, on Thursday last, removes from our midst one of the Peninsula's oldest residents. He was nearly 90 years of age. His wife pre-deceased him by some years. The late Mr Hurley leaves the following familyMessrs William, Joseph, Michael and John Hurley, Miss
Margaret, Catherine and Kate Hurley, and Mesdames Van Suylen, Kerr, O'Halloran, Farrell and Davies .(P.4, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 12-5-1922.))
About half a mile distant from Mr Buckley's, situated on the top of a hill, is Mr Hurley's homestead. Unlike
his neighbour, Mr Hurley pays more attention to fruit growing than dairying, having an orchard of about 15 acres in full bearing. Being situated on the side of a hill it is naturally well drained, and as the aspect faces the north east it gets the full benefit of the early morning sun-a most important consideration in fruit growing in a cool, moist district-and is immune from damage by strong winds owing to the protective character of the surrounding country. Apples, which include most of the best varieties, occupy by far the largest part of the orchard, but apricots cherries, pears and plums are also grown. Mr Hurley is very fortunate in that his orchard is exempt from the depredations of any of our numerous fungus and insect pests, and the quality of
his fruit may be judged by the fact that he has been a prizetaker at the local shows. He has not yet tried exporting his apples, as he finds a very profitable market for all his fruit in Sorrento, where, during the summer months, there is a large demand for all kinds of farm produce. Although fruit growing is the chief branch of agronomy practised by Mr Hurley, dairying, pigs, fowls and the cultivation of crops necessary to carry on the same, receive a share of attention, and with his fruit, the butter, eggs and all other produce are disposed of in Sorrento*. Sheep are also kept, and as they have a large scope of country to run on and require but little attention, the returns from the wool and lambs considerably augment Mr Hurley's annual profits.
(*The Hurleys owned a guest house at Sorrento so did not need to sell most of their produce.
SORRENTOLonsdale House. elevated position, overlooking bay: first-class Accommodation ; tariff moderate. W. H. Hurley. P.1,Bendigo Advertiser, 31-12-1915.)
Johnson's.
(crown allotments 111A,111B1 and 111B2,Bittern, a total 136 acres south of the Balnarring Recreation Reserve fronting Balnarring and Stumpy Gully Rds; Melway 193 D3.)
Continuing along the same road in a south-easterly direction, the next place met with, after leaving Mr Hurley's, is Mr Johnson's,, which is also the local post office. Sheep are the principal consideration here, and rape is grown for fattening for the winter market. Although Mr Johnson's land is highly suitable for cultivation, but little is worked, the sheep, which have given very good returns, being almost solely relied upon as a source of income.
WE INTERRUPT THIS ARTICLE ETC.
At the moment, I'm presuming Mr Mann's property was Warrawee or very close to it and that the Standard's special representative then turned sharp left and headed north up Stumpy Gully Rd.
Mr Mann's daughter, Elsie, won a prize for a pair of socks she had knitted. Mr Mann's involvement in the ratepayers'meeting was another consolation prize in my quest to establish the location of his farm.
MR. MANN'S.
The" property now owned by Mr Mann has changed hands probably more than any other in the district.A previous owner erected a modern well-finished 8-roomed brick villa, so situated that from the front verandah a complete view of the 30-acre orchard can be obtained. Ten acres of the orchard mentioned are in full bearing and the other 20 just coming into bearing. Apricots and apples are the principal varieties of fruit grown, but other sorts also find a place, including cherries, pears, peaches and plums. This will be a very valuable property
in time, as Mr Mann's skilful knowledge and assiduous care of the trees, combined with a suitable aspect, soil and climate, will undoubtedly produce trees, and consequently fruit, of a very high quality. Having such a
large orchard, Mr Mann does not practise any other branch of agriculture, although he has the land to do so
if he wished, his farm being 180 acres in extent.
P.JOHNSON'S.
(Crown allotments 71A and 71B Bittern,about 155 acres,granted to P.A.Johnson in 1902 and 1897, being the south east quarter of the block bounded by Stumpy Gully,Hunts,Coolart and Myers Rds; Melway 163 C-D 6-7. I initially thought the special representative had headed north up Stumpy Gully Rd but I now believe this was so for a mile or so and then a north east cross country romp skirting the north west corner of Balnarring Racecourse which probably gave the impression of being a timber reserve.)
Some distance has to be travelled across timber and water reserves and other uninhabited country before arriving at Mr P. Johnson's, who, by the way, is a son of Mr Johnson, of the post office. As we travel in this direction, towards the Bittern railway station-a great change in the character of the country is observed.
To the casual observer the chief variation will appear to be the substitution of long stretches of plains for the hills of Balnarring proper, and the absence of bracken undergrowth, but to a farmer the greatest change is in the nature of the soil itself, which is more loamy and of a lighter character. Mr Johnson has a neat, well-kept farm, furnished with a comfortable homestead and convenient outbuildings. Dairying and sheep farming are successfully practised, though neither on a large scale as the proprietor is often engaged in contracting for the local Shire Council. A young orchard of about three acres is looking well and promises to be a source of profit when in full bearing.
Jos STANLEY'S.
(crown allotment 104B of 95 acres,granted to J.P.Stanley, 776 metres west from P.Johnson's, on the south west corner of Stumpy Gully and Myers Rds; roughly Melway 163 D8. It looks as if the special representative had noticed some sheep across Coolart Rd from P.Johnson's,but the owner was not to be seen (perhaps finishing his last contract for the shire) and it was not until he was talking to Joe Stanley that he found out about (Peter?) Meehan. )
Mr Jos Stanley has a farm similar to the one just described, the character of the country being the same. Here again dairy and sheep farming are carried on, but latterly, Mr Stanley has been getting rid of the sheep and
increasing his herd of cows. He was the first in this district to adopt the system of rugging his cows at night,but as yet he is unable to speak emphatically of the benefits to be derived therefrom, not yet having had sufficient experience in the practice. The cowshed, pig sty, implement, shed and other outbuildings of this farm are highly creditable to their owner who is also their builder They are constructed almost entirely of "bush" timber with iron roofs. and for neatness and solidity would be hard to beat anywhere. Mr Stanley possesses considerable mechanical ingenuity and is an adept with the axe and adze. The clean state of the paddocks and sound condition of the fences point to the managerial capacity of the owner.
MEEHAN'S.
(72A and 72B, Bittern,on the south west quarter of the block bounded by Hunts, Hendersons, Myers and Coolart Rds, directly across Coolart Rd from P.A.Johnson's (i.e.ADJACENT.) Crown allotment 72 B of only 44 acres was granted in 1888 but Meehan had received the grant for 72A of 139 acres only half a year before the article was written. Meehan also had 100 acres at the south east corner of Bittern-Dromana and Stumpy Gully Rds,275 metres south of Joe Stanley's.
Adjacent to Mr P. Johnson's is Mr Meehan's. Until two or three years ago Mr Meehan was one of the largest
of contractors in this shire and consequently was unable to pay that close attention to his farm which he is now doing. He goes in almost solely for sheep and as he keeps a good class and does not overstock is naturally successful.
JENNINGS BROS.
Messrs Jennings Bros., who have a 20-acre block, are comparatively new arrivals in this district, having come
here early in 1898. They are, as the extent of their holding would signify, fruitgrowers. For the short time they have been in possession these gentlemen have worked wonders. The amount of work they have accomplished unassisted shows them to be industrious above the average. They are not long out from England, where they evidently learnt their business well, which is proved by the thorough manner in which they cultivated and
drained the land before they planted their orchard. They are now being repaid for their trouble by the healthy
and vigorous growth of the young trees. They also have about five acres under small fruits, the principal
of which are strawberries, with which they were very successful last year,topping the market on two or three
occasions.
JOHN DAVIES'.
(Extract from my SHIRE OF FLINDERS journal.
DAVIES John 1894-1914.
My thanks to Shirley Davies who directed me to CHARACTERS OF WILL by Dawn Cowley, another Davies descendant. This book's call number, 929, relates to genealogy but it is found in a separate section (right at the bottom right hand corner,after 994)containing genealogy of peninsula pioneers. Why not 994.52?
John, the second child and oldest son of William Davey/Davis/Davies and Bridget (McGreal)was born in Capetown, South Africa, in 1849. His father, born and married in Ugborough, Devon, took his family back home but sailed for Melbourne on 14-1-1853, arriving on 2-5-1853. William had been indentured to Mr Stephenson of Chelsworth and at the conclusion of this term he stayed near Melbourne, possibly on "Flemington", where Bridget's father was a farmer. (I had mentioned in my PIONEERS PATHWAY journal that John might have been a hero at Kew and a brief glimpse at NO RUGGED LANDSCAPE recently revealed that he was.)
After the seventh was born in 1858, the family moved to the Bangholme/Carrum Downs area where Walter was born in 1859. The ninth child, Alfred was born at Osborne (Melway 145 A10) in 1862 and the 10th, Albert, at Coolart Station in 1864. (It is possible that the births were registered at these places.Osborne was an early township, with streets named after Queen Victoria's children, and the postmaster may have also been the registrar of births and deaths.) Almost immediately after Albert's birth, William selected 68 acres at Bittern and had paid for his land by 1881. (See WILLIAM'S 68 ACRES below.)
William and Emma's daughter Emmelien drowned in a 7foot deep waterhole on the property in 1868 at the age of 15. Their thirteenth child, born in 1872, was given the same name. John married Bridget McGeal in Melbourne on 28-12-1869, giving his occupation as horsebreaker. John made his first application for land in 1871 and spent the next two decades contracting for road and culvert (bridge) works. The book has an outline by John about how he constructed roads. Dawn tells how the area was referred to as both Bittern and Balnarring. They still are interchangeable.
Balnarring Rd separated Balnarring parish on the west side from Bittern parish on the east. Today the Balnarring Recreation Reserve and Station St (which led to Balnarring Station) are in the parish of Bittern .
All of John's grants were in the parish of Bittern. They were (with area,date granted and location details from Melway):
113B, 67 acres, 5-4-1877, 193 F 4-5.
114A, 77 acres, 24-11-1880, 193 G 4-5.
115A, 47 acres, 22-4-1884, left half of G2 and bottom half of G3.
115B and 118B, 170 acres, 15-6-1889, 115B- Between Coolart Rd and 115A.
118 B-left half of 163 G 12 and 193 G 1-2 and bottom half of 193 G-H 1.
WILLIAM DAVIES' 68 ACRES. Strangely Dawn gave no details of the 68 acres, probably because she could not find it on the Bittern parish map. The date it was paid off probably comes from family folklore rather than a document. If he had selected the land and paid it off, his name would be on the parish map as a grantee. But it isn't. However, he was assessed by the Flinders Road Board on 68 acres in the parish of Bittern, which he supposedly owned on 8-6-1869. I believe 113B was William's selection. The only other possibility would be William Davies Jnr's 116B of almost 80 acres (granted to him on 22-1-1885.)This would have finished up as about 68 acres by about 1923 because of the Frankston-Flinders Road and the Merricks to Red Hill Railway but these did not exist when William was assessed in 1869.It is possible that William had selected 111A (bottom half of 193 B-D 3) of 68 acres 1 rood and 7 perches, which was granted to Robert Johnston (sic) on 7-6-1875.
William died at Bittern on 4-3-1883 and was buried at Mornington by old neighbour William Hurley.Emma survived much longer but her affection for John did not. He wanted to charge her the earth to graze her animals on his land so she moved to the Nepean Highway in Mornington where she died on 3-12-1904.
John established an orchard and a sawmill after he became a councillor in 1885. He was appointed a trustee, with David Mairs and Paul Vansuylen, of the Balnarring racecourse. Always keen on sport, he won the Old Buffers' race at the Balnarring Athletics Carnival on 2-3-1899, with Paul Vansuylen second in the field of ten.
John was elected President of the Shire of Flinders on 26-9-1914 and resigned after a year of heading the council.
Dawn's book has pictures of John as President (P. 32) and the family home, "Pine Grove" (p.33.) John might have been breeding horses as Joseph McIlroy went to Pine Grove to buy the mare from Mr John Davies for 5 pounds. (The Red Hill P.22.) Dawn's book is not available for loan but John's contributions at the Pioneers' Reunion at the Balnarring Hall on 5-7-1913 are also recounted in Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA which can be borrowed.
John's wife Bridget died at Bittern on 30-6-1919 and John on 14-2-1926, also at Bittern. Davies Rd, running east from the south east corner of John Davies' 118B to the west gate of Cerberus was gazetted in 1914.
THE DAVIES FAMILY IN RATEBOOKS.
I realise that the following is fairly detailed, but this may be the last time I write about this family so I don't want to leave any mysteries unsolved. All land was in the parish of Bittern despite their place of residence being given as Balnarring. Balnarring referred to an area at the junction of the two parishes just as Moorooduc (the district) near Jones Corner was partly in the parish of Bittern.
Flinders Road Board.
8-6-1869. As recorded previously.
7-6-1870. 10. William Davis 147 acres and A ( taken to mean a house.) One would presume the 147 acres included the previous 68 acres but I can find no combination of the Davies' grants that gives a total of 147 acres. There may have been a separate entry for the 68 acres that I didn't spot.
8-6-1871. The 147 acres seems to have been split in half. One would presume that the two halves adjoined so my money was on 113B and 114B, east of the former Balnarring Railway Station, which total 144.5 acres.
20.William Davis 74 acres and 2 roomed house.
31.John Davis 74 acres and 2 roomed house.
13-6-1874. The only change was that William's land (Ass.No. 6) was described as being leased from the Crown, correcting an error that had persisted since 1869, and was now described as 68 acres again.
Flinders and Kangerong Shire.
2-10-1875. All properties were leased from the Crown.
18.John Davis farmer 130 acres and 3 roomed house NETT ANNUAL VALUE 12 pounds.
19.William Davis Snr. 68 acres and 2 roomed house NAV 9 pounds.
20.William Davis Jnr. 79 acres, no house NAV 4 pounds.
1876. The only change was that Davis became Davies.
14-9-1877. The only changes were that John's NAV had increased to 14 pounds and that William Senior was recorded as the owner of his 68 acres, while the others were leasing from the Crown.
27-7-1878.
21.John was now leasing 220 acres from the Crown.
22.William Snr.'s name is given as William Henry Davies as owner and occupier of the 68 acres.
23.Charles Davies was leasing 81 acres from the Crown.
24.Walter Davies was leasing 80 acres from the Crown.
31-7-1880.
18.John's Crown lease was described as 214 acres.
21.William Henry Davies' 68 acre block had become 66 acres and remained so in 81 and 82.
Perhaps some re-surveying had been done!
17-7-1886.
26.Emmeline Davies, the owner, had the 68 (again!) acres, which had a nett annual value of 17 pounds. A backtrack revealed that she was first assessed on 21-7-1883. William Henry had died on 4-3-1883.
27.James Davies had 95 acres and buildings, NAV 9 pounds.
28.John Davies owned 300 acres, NAV 30 pounds.
29.W.C. Davies was leasing 45 acres from the Crown.
30-7-1892. Emmeline's land was now described as 62 acres.
25-7-1896.
37.Emmeline 62 acres and buildings.
38.Henry Davies leasing 66 acres.
39.James Davies 95 acres and buildings.
40.John still had the 300 acres.
41.John Davies Jnr was leasing 40 acres.
At last I found the answer that I had been seeking!
30-9-1899.
55.Emmeline Davies' name has been crossed out as the occupier of 62 acres and buildings, 113B, BITTERN and the name of Harriet Bowen had been written.
THEREFORE THE 68 ACRES ON WHICH WILLIAM DAVIES HAD BEEN ASSESSED IN 1869 WAS 113b, BITTERN!
113B BITTERN.
This block was originally described as 68 acres, then 66 acres and 68 again and finally 62 acres. On the parish map John Davies JUNIOR is written as the grantee and its area is given as 67 acres and
23 perches (67.14375 acres.) Using my little knowledge of geometry and using the boundary measurements in links, I have calculated the area of 113B as 63.95949 acres so none of the estimates was right.
ie. 1806x3395 + .5x1806x293=6395949 square links.
The grant was recorded as being issued on 5-4-1877 and William Davies Senior was assessed as the owner and occupier on 14-9-1877 (see above.)
As John Davies was married on 28-12-1869 , John Davies Jnr would have been a young boy at most in 1877 and was not assessed until the 1890's. Had William put the grant in his young grandson's name? If so, he would have been a trustee and entitled to call himself the owner. If the grant was in young John's name, it is strange that the ownership seems to have passed seamlessly to Emmaline within months of William Henry Davies' death. )
Mr John Davies divides his time between the firewood business and attending to a young orchard of 13 acres. With regard to the latter, he was somewhat unfortunate in the selection of a site. As all indications pointed to it being a suitable aspect, the subsequent slow growth of the trees is highly disappointing, and suggests the necessity for some remedial measures being adopted. Underground drainage would no doubt meet the case, as stagnant water in the winter is evidently the trouble. Manures also would no doubt stimulate the growth of the trees. Mr Davies is a shire councillor and has a nice homestead and about 300 acres of land.
(To be continued.) (P.2,Mornington Standard,6-9-1902.)
AROUND FLINDERS. (N.B.THE THIRD LETTER OF THE ALPHABET ON MY KEYBOARD IS NOT WORKING, SO, IN ORDER TO PROKEED I AM GOING TO SUBSTITUTE K FOR IT.) POSTSCRIPT. The problem with the C key has been fixed but I have decided to leave the few affected entries as they are to provide an interesting language adventure.
SOME PROPERTIES DESCRIBED
[By Our Special Representative.]
COOKE'S (On the basis of the deskription of the property konsisting of about 1400 akres,it is kertain that klondrisse was komposed of the total of 1439 akres (basikally*)south of Boneo Rd granted to John Barker. (*About a fifth of the 640 akre pre-emptive right between Main Kreek and Stokkyard Kreek was north of Boneo Rd;
if we add the roods and perkhes in some allotments, Barker was granted 1440 akres and 11 perkhes basikally south of the road. If we dedukt about 120 akres for the part of the P.R.in Melway 260 B-D9 north of Boneo Rd,this leaves about 1320 akres,not 1400. Barker's grants south of the road stretkhed from Main Kreek to Flinders Township but were not kontinuous. If Barker had bought one of the grants of James Robinson (k/a 2 of 75a 1 r. 38 p. south of Keys Rd) or Arthur Dobree (k/a 1 of B of 98 akres south of Punkhbowl Rd) or Edward Graham (51 of 74 a. and 52 of 84a. just west of Flinders Township), the total would have been klose to 1400 akres. Thus Klondrisse would not have needed to inklude any of the 1274 akres (or 1394 if we Kount that northern part of the P.R.) granted to Barker north of Boneo Rd.
Starting our tour this week at the Main Creek MELWAY 260 B9(the boundary of the parishes of Flinders and Fingal), on the way from Sorrento to Flinders, we come to some excellent grazing land. On the south side of the picturesque road which winds up and down the hills and commands many beautiful views of the rocky cliffs and headlands on the shore of the southern ocean we see the fine old homestead built by the late Mr John Barker, some 40 years ago.This old landmark of the district, with about 1400 acres of good grazing land, has recently been purchased by Mr C.T.Cooke, brother of Mr Winter Cooke, M.L.C., whose estate in the Western district he has been managing for some years. Mr Cooke intends going in for grazing and has some very fine stock on the place.
The old homestead is now undergoing a thorough repair and now fencing is being erected all over the property: Under Mr Cooke's management "Clondrisse " (as the place has now been christened) should, with its numerous,
natural, advantages, soon be an ideal estate.
If I remember correctly there is extensive information about the owner and property in LIME LAND LEISURE, which can be borrowed from the Rosebud Library..
POSTSKRIPT (er POSTSCRIPT.) Notice anything different? C is back at work! I wanted to do a trove search on the property but I was hardly likely to get anywhere by entering Kooke or Klondrisse so I performed a risky but successful operation on the C key. An advertisement about the Clondrisse Estate quaintly described the land as being 4 miles from Flinders. Unless they were referring only to the homestead block, this would indicate that Clondrisse was the P.R. and Barker's grants fronting Meakins and Glenmarlin Rd. Surely the correspondent of 1902 could not be so misinformed as to think it was between Boneo Rd and the coast. I'll try a heritage study!
This is fairly straightforward. The 1902 correspondent was right. Clondrisse was between Boneo Rd and the coast.
"CAPE SCHANCK MASTER
Access Cape Schanck Trig and Wallermyong trig
Take the road from Rosebud to Flinders (via Boneo).
After 8 miles you reach the turning to Cape Schanck on the right hand
side. Cape Schanck is on the corner. Proceed along the road to
Flinders*, pass the bridge over the creek** and on the right hand side just
after the gravel road becomes asphalt*** you will find the estate "Clondrisse"
(about 2.5 miles from Cape Schanck corner). (*Parish of Flinders. **Main Creek. ***Probably at Meakins Rd.)
(O/< - OO~
www.mrt.tas.gov.au/mrtdoc/petxplor/download/OR.../OR_0006.pdf)
I found Cecil Trevor Cooke's obituary. See:
PERSONAL.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Wednesday 28 June 1922 p 10 Article.
BUCHANAN'S.(Section B, parish of Flinders,crown allotments:
3 (by 1899); Melway 260 E-H 10
5 (by 1899); Melway 260 J8-9 to 261 A 8-9
6 (by 1902); Melway 260 part E,F-H 8,part 7.
Lot 26 of Barker's or any others cannot be determined without seeing the subdivision plans for the Cape Schanck or Boneo estates.
In 1899 Andrew Buchanan was assessed on 370 acres and buildings in the centre riding. In 1909,he was again assessed on the 370 acres but also on 215 acres (6B) and 117 acres (lot 26 of Barker's.) Crown allotment 6 of section B (exactly 215 acres)had obviously been added to the 370 acres by 1902 when he owned about 600 acres. At first,I thought Gleneira might have been the Buchanan grants on Pt Leo Rd in the parish of Balnarring. However the first sentence about the next farm (Symond's)makes it clear that Gleneira was on the north side of Boneo Rd. John Henry Brook and Edward Khull had been granted crown allotments 3,4,5 and 6 north of Boneo Rd between Stockyard Creek and Punchbowl Rd,three of them on 18-2-1858 and c/a 5 exactly a year later. I had already worked out that Gleneira had to be c/a's 3 and 5 of section B (176a +194 a. 3r. 4 p.= 370.775 acres.) Luckily I had referred to the 1917 rates when Andrew Buchanan was assessed on 378 acres and buildings, the description of the land (in my transcription) being c/a 3,part c/a 5,section B. It should be part c/a 3, c/a 5. Boneo Rd stopped at the bank of Tea Tree or Yalleryong Creek and resumed to the east at Punchbowl Rd but the council must have acquired land to connect the two sections and opened the road which was gazetted in 1878. It cut off the south east corner of crown allotment 3 and then ran east through crown allotment 4. The road was closed by 1882 when Thomas Ormiston Martin bought the section of road (4 a. 10 p.)and the cut-off south east corner 3a. 3 r. 7 p.) within c/a 3, a total of 7.85 acres-the extra 8 acres on which Andrew Buchanan was assessed in 1917. The cut-off part of c/a 4, 4A of 7a. 3r. 16p.,was bought by J.S.Darley in 1896. Through his wife, Frances,nee Martin, Andrew had probably inherited the extra 8 acres from THOMAS ORMISTON MARTIN(whom I previously speculated might be Andrew's father in law, which now seems almost certain.)
Next we come to the well-known Gleneira estate, the property of Mr.Andrew Buchanan, who enjoys the distinction of being one the most successful breeders of Ayrshire cattle* in the State, and an inspection of his herd is certainly a treat. Mr Buchanan is a thorough dairyman and has all his life been accustomed to handling cattle. Before he became an exhibitor, he was for some years a judge of Ayrshires at the Royal Show. He has at present 50 cows in milk and makes a large quantity of cheese, the excellence of which is too well known to need comment here. The "Gleneira " herd were (sic) very successful at the last Melbourne Show; out of 19 exhibits, 10 mentions (including special Derby sweep stake, won three times in succession and other prizes) were secured. Besides his dairy cattle Mr Buchanan, who owns some 600 acres and leases about 500 more, has 1000 sheep, and 16 acres of hay, which he has planted, is looking very well.
LIME LAND LEISURE also discusses the Buchanans at length. The Tasmanian Stud Book states that the state's Ayrshire herd was founded from the Oakbank herd of the McNabs at Tullamarine and later the Buchanan herd. About a decade after this article was written, Andrew Buchanan was leasing land between the Wannaeue Estate and Little Scotland on the east side of Boneo Rd.)
A QUESTION. Were the Buchanans responsible for the name of the suburb of Glen Eira?
ANOTHER QUESTION. Was Andrew's wife a daughter of Thomas Ormiston Martin? (SEE ABOVE. It looks like it!)
AN ANZAC. BUCHANAN, Robert MM (1892-1969)
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BUCHANAN, Robert MM (1892-1969)
Robert Buchanan was born on 28 August 1892, the son of Andrew Buchanan and Frances nee Martin, of 'Glen Eira', Flinders.
He was educated at Geelong College from 1906 until 1909, and Scotch College in 1910. He participated in the Cadet Corps of both schools, as well as seven months in Captain Rushalls Cadets.
After the outbreak of World War I, he enlisted (6535) in the AIF on 28 May 1915, embarking for Egypt on HMAT A18 Wiltshire on 18 November 1915 with the 4th Field Artillery Brigade. His unit was then posted on to France in March, where he served until the end of the war, being awarded the Military Medal at Passchendaele, gazetted 4 February 1918, the citation read:
'On 14 October, 1917 near Zonnebeke, Lt Andrews with Sergeant Buchanan were assisting with the advance of the two guns to their forward position after the attack. The officer was wounded, Sergeant Buchanan, under heavy shell fire, at once took charge and by his work, determination and example completed the work of getting both guns into their advanced position. This is but one example of the sterling service and conduct of this NCO throughout the recent operations'.
He was wounded in action on 1 November, 1917, and evacuated to England on HS Newhaven on 8 November, being admitted to Colchester Military Hospital the next day. He returned to Australia, embarking on HMT Saxon on 11 December 1918, and demobilised on 6 April, 1919.
He died at Nagambie on 14 January 1969.
(BUCHANAN, Robert MM (1892-1969) - Heritage Guide to ...
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SYMONDS'. (Crown allotment 2, section B, consisting of 75a. 1 r. 38 p.,granted to James G. Robinson on 18-2-1858, south of the KeysRd/Boneo Rd intersection and fronting the coast; Melway 260, part G, H,part J 11.)
On the other (south) side of the road is " Westward Ho," the property of Mr. Symonds the local butcher,who holds about 75 acres in this block and about 300 some miles away. Most of this is really excellent land ; deep rich chocolate and black soil, which should grow anything. Mr Symonds has got his property in very good order, and it is certainly an ideal fattening country. The hay crop is at present looking very promising. Flinders is likely to be a success as an onion growing district. Mr Symonds will probably have a large area under that crop next year.
LEVIEN'S.(Possibly c/a 51 of section B, Flinders, of 74a. 0r.24p., granted to Edward Graham on 15-8-1859.; Melway 261 part E9, F 10.)
Continuing some two miles or so along the road to Flinders we come to the land (also a portion of the Cape
Schanck estate) recently purchased by some enterprising gentlemen for purposes of onion growing. Of these
blocks the one in the best condition is about 94 acres, owned by Mr Levien, M L.A. As regards the soil on the
holding Mr Levien, who is acknowledged one of the best authorities on onion growing in the State speaks highly.
The principal drawback is,in his opinion, the fresh briny breezes which blow from the Southern Ocean and are the delight of the jaded city visitors in the sunmmer time. Most of the block is laid down in onions, and Mr Jennings*, who is managing the place, had the land ploughed and worked until it was in a very friable
condition and made an excellent seed bed. There are now a good many weeders and onion thinners on this and the adjacent properties, and the place has a much busier appearance than it had 12 months ago, when the
land was used for grazing purposes only.
*Dod Jennings hailed from the Drysdale area and played for Geelong as a young man. Linda Berndt, of the Rye Historical Society, has written a book about the family. Like many farmers,Dod was affected by the 1990's depression and the family became onion-growing, share-farming nomads. They were at Flinders long enough at the time this article was written for one of Dodd's sons to marry a Tuck girl and then off they went to Camperdown before arriving back on the Peninsula just before W.W.1 to grow onions on Kariah (between Dundas St and Weeroona St at Rye.) I wonder if mail contractor, John Tuck, had written to his sister and told her of Jim Brown's transformation of the ti tree and rabbit-infested land around Rye. Was John still doing his mail run at that time?
MAXWELL'S. ( Possibly c/a 52 section B, Flinders, consisting of 84a.1r. 25 p., granted to Edward Graham on 15-8-1859 and about 10 acres of John Barker's grant, 52A,of just under 30 acres bounded by Boneo Rd and the two branches of Double Creek south to their junction;Melway 261 parts E9, F10 and G11 and c/a 52A parts F9 and G8-9. Double Creek might have provided the braes so loved by Henry Tuck Jnr and Maggie.)
Adjoining is about 75 acres recently purchased by Mr Maxwell. On this property stands "The Grange," which was Mr Barker's first homestead after he took up the Cape Schanck run. In spite of the eloquent request in verse,
written by a local poet*, who is a true disciple of " bard Robbie," and printed in these columns some time ago, this place is still known by the old title and has not yet been christened Maxwelton. Mt Maxwell is working his onion crop on the share system with Mr Nichols**, who is also a new arrival to the district.The hay crop at "The Grange," alias "Maxwellton," is also looking very well.
* Possibly Henry Tuck Jnr., a collection of whose poems, many of which appeared in the Mornington Standard,can be purchased at the Dromana Museum. FIND REQUEST!!!
MAXWELL'S BONNIE BRAES.
[By Henry Tuck, Flinders.)
The Spring returns again, Maggie,
With bud and bloom to cheer,
And memory bears us backwards
To the spot we both revere.
Ah! there 'mid Nature's sunshine
We spent our brightest days,
And called it New Maxwelton,
Ere Maxwell saw the braes.
Again I twine a garland
To wreathe your bonnie face,
And view the landscape o'er
From yonder lofty place.
The arrowy shafts of sunlight
Shoot forth in golden rays,
And bathe the oaks and hill-tops
Of Maxwell's bonnie braes.
And we built our airy castle
In glowing colours set,
And through misfortune dark and fell
It has not crumbled yet.
Once more in fancy, Maggie,
We hand in hand do stray
And call it still Maxwelton
And love the dear old braes.
(P.4, Mornington Standard, 27-9-1902.)
**Possibly H.J.Nichols who received the grant of 6 perches less than 84 acres, crown allotment 2A,parish of Fingal (Melway 254 A4), on 2-4-1909.
DOWIE'S.( Possibly c/a's 53 and 54 between the northern branch of Double Creek and King St, Flinders,a total of 106 a. 2r. 13 p. granted to Godfrey Howitt (who was granted much land in Fingal);Melway 261 H 5-6.)
On the north side of the Flinders and Sorrento road is a nice little block of 100 acres, purchased at the
subdivisional sale of Barker's estate by Mr Dowie, who has built a cottage and otherwise improved his property.
He intends going in for dairying, and has some fine milking cows. About 20 acres have been planted with oats
for hay, and, like most other crops in this district, is looking very well.
NICHOLL'S.(I presume the road referred to is Boyds Rd,not Punchbowl Rd. Most of the land along Boyds Rd was granted to Godfrey Howitt and none of the crown allotments consisted of about 94 acres. It is possible,in view of the fact that Sproule-near Flinders township-is mentioned next that Nichols and Sproule were both on c/a's 56-61, a total of about 300 acres granted to William Kennon in 1862-3.)
Adjoining, and higher up the hill from the Sorrento road, is the property of 94 acres leased from Mr Greive, of
Berwick.(who is also a recent purchaser), by Mr Nichols, who has a comfortable cottage, with stable and other buildings erected, near the road leading past the Punch Bowl to the Main Ridge. He has ploughed a good strip of land, and planted onions and other crops.
SPROULE'S.(See the previous farm, NICHOL'S, re possible location.)
Near the Flinders 'township' Mr Sproule, a well-known pastoralist, recently connected with properties in
Riverina and other parts of Australia, has a comfortable residence, with about 120 acres of land, which he has
got into apple pie order. He also rents 108 acres a mile or so away, and has some fine stock, and about 20 acres under crop, which is looking very well.
DARLEY'S (In 1909,the executors of Mrs Sarah Darley were assessed on:
203 ac. (26,26A,31B), 140 ac.(17A and 17C of B) and 8 ac.and buildings (4a of B.) Mrs Jane Darley was assessed on 8 ac. (6,7 of And., which I presume means Anderson's.Me and my abbreviated transcription but what can you do when your eyes are microfiched and your muscles ache?) Sarah must have been the widow of J.S.Darley who was granted 4A of B on 28-7-1896 after a road through Gleneira's south east corner, continuing through Crown allotment 4 to cross Tea Tree Creek which the shire opened-gazetted in 1878- had closed by 1882. Crown allotment 4A was at the present east corner of Keys and Boneo Rds with frontages of 132 and 189 metres respectively; Melway 260 J10 between the latitude of the bridge and Boneo Rd. I presume 26 and 26A were the property "on the outskirts of the town" but 26A should be 20A. Crown allotments 20A (112 acres) and 26 (138 acres) were granted to Henry Tuck on 24-10-1859. 20A= Melway 255 K12 and 256 A12 east to creek; 26=256 B12, parts B11,A12 and C12.
Crown allotment 31, section B was even closer to the township,being on the north side of Boyds Rd only 244 metres from the north end of King St, with the dam in Melway 261 G3 being near the centre of the property. Consisting of 126 acres (not 120), this was probably the farm described in 1902. The land on Tuck's grants (20A and 26) may have consisted of two subdivision blocks of about 40 acres each to make the total of 203 acres in 1909.
Crown allotments 17A and 17C of B are far easier to pinpoint. The first was bounded by Meakins, Whitehall and Keys Rds with the second road joining the first and second to form the northern boundary of the 147a. 0r. 3p. property, granted to the executor of S.E.Darley on 4-7-1908. When realignment of Mornington-Flinders Rd cut off the north eastern corner (including the northern 184 acres of Keys Rd) this nibble was called 17C, consisting of 5a. 0r. 38p., reducing 17A to 141.3.5, exactly!. Do you realise what's wrong with that? The silly sausages forgot to deduct the area of the road deviation as well as 17C to get the new acreage for 17A! The Lands Department wouldn't have liked me as a boss! 17A and 17C are tied to show they were both granted to "The Equity Trustees &c Exor of S.E.Darley" the grant being issued on 4-7-1908. C/a. 17A and C =Melway 254 J-K11.)
Also on the outskirts of the township, and fronting Westernport Bay, is a property of about 120 acres, owned
by Mrs Darley, who has recently built a comfortable residence, and in many ways improved the estate. The
few acres of crop sown on this place is doing pretty well. Mrs Darley owns a considerable amount of land in different parts of the district, most of which she has let on lease.
BOYD's.
Continuing along the Bittern-road, we come to a very cosy-looking residence, with about 60 acres of land.
This property, with several other blocks of land in different parts of the district, is worked by Messrs Boyd
Brothers, 'who are 'cultivating' (largely?-tear in page) in addition to carrying on a good many road contracts for the shire of Flinders and Kangerong*, and (doing?-tear) other work.
(*Kangerong was dropped from the Shire's name in 1914 if I remember correctly.)
Journeying on towards Manton's Creek, we reach a part of the district which might very appropriately be named Tuckville, and are reminded of the old local riddle-Why is Manton's Creek like a petticoat ? (Because it is surrounded by Tucks). Messrs Samuel, Henry, Thomas and John Tuck, who have all large families, are very old
residents of the district, being sons of the late Mr.Henry Tuck, senr, who, in company with the late Mr John
Barker, was one of the pioneers of the peninsula.
Mr John Tuck has about 48 acres of grazing land, which has, however, just been leased to Mr Skillen* of Sorrento, as Mr Tuck has obtained the Dromana to Portsea mail contract, and will need to reside on the other side of the peninsula. Being close to Flinders, and containing some splendid soil, this should be an ideal
place for market gardening.
(*See THE BUTCHER, THE BAKER, THE by Bruce Bennett for information about the Skillens.)
H. TUCK'S
Mr Henry Tuck has about 160 acres of first-class land, and goes in for grazing. This is certainly a fine
property, and almost any kind of a crop should grow splendidly in the deep rich chocolate soil.
N.B. See one of Henry's many poems under MAXWELL'S. Henry was born on the Arthur's Seat Run while his father, Henry Tuck Snr, was building the McCRAE HOMESTEAD.
T. TUCK'S.
On the other side of the road is about 160 acres of very good grazing and farming land, owned by Mr Thomas Tuck, who also goes in principally for grazing, but has a good area under crops of hay, potatoes, &c,which
are doing well.
S. TUCK'S.
Mr. Samuel Tuck has a very nice property. The homestead is prettily situated on the top of the hill above Manton's Creek, and is well sheltered by ornamental trees. Mr Tuck, who owns between 300 and 400 acres
of well grassed rich land, goes in largely for dairying and fattening cattle, and has his place in splendid
order.
(P.2, Mornington Standard,13-2-1902.)
THE TUCK BOYS WERE MAINLY ON HENRY TUCK'S PRE-EMPTIVE RIGHT OF 640 ACRES, THE ABOVE LAND,IF SAM TUCK DID HAVE 400 ACRES, GIVING A TOTAL OF 778 ACRES. THE EXTRA 138 ACRES WERE PROBABLY 26 OF Section A MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY RE DARLEY'S.
The western boundary of the P.R. started in Boyds Rd (the southern boundary) 244 metres west of King Street and ran north 7378 links, about 1475 metres (parallel with the line of King St)to Musk/Cotton Tree/ Mantons Creek,
which was the northern boundary until 486 metres from its mouth where a line due magnetic east from the junction of Tucks and Frankston Rd continued to the coast,just north of the creek. Tuck's P.R.= Melway 261-2: s/w. cnr.- bottom right 261 H4; n/w cnr.- creek near centre of 261 J1; n/e cnr.-coast near bottom of 262 C5; s/e cnr.- coast 3/4 of the way down in 262 D2.
SEE MY JOURNAL "HOW SARAH WILSON LED ME TO HENRY TUCK" FOR THE ANZAC EDITION ARTICLE ABOUT CHRISTIE JOHNSTONE WHO STILL FARMS ON PART OF HENRY TUCK'S MANTONS CREEK RUN.
AROUND FLINDERS.
SOME PROPERTIES DESCRIBED
[By Our Special Representative.]
BALDRY'S.
(c/a 22A of section B, Flinders; Melway 254 F-G 8-9,or c/a 8 Wannaeue; Melway 254 E-F5.)
In this article we have been dealing, so far, with the properties along the shores of Bass Straits and Western
port Bay. A good portion of the land back towards the Main Ridge contains some excellent soil, but is heavily timbered and badly in need of cleaning up. There are some properties in this part, however, that are certainly well worth a visit. " Wildwood," the property of Mr John Baldry, who holds nearly 800 acres of splendid land (350 acres of which was purchased at the recent subdivisional sale of Barker's estate), is situated almost on the crown of the Ridge and near the boundary of Wannaeue, Fingal and Flinders.
When obtained from the Crown, "Wildwood," the bulk of which is now a valuable well-improved property, was in a very rough timbered condition and the owner, like a good many of our pioneers, has had to spend many long years of hard work in preparing the thickly wooded land for the plough and has on three occasions had his house and effects destroyed by bush fires since building his first homestead. Though for several years past Mr Baldry has been growing large quantities of hay, potatoes and other crops, he now intends going in almost exclusively for grazing, for which industry the rich undulating, well-watered land is, when cleared, very suitable. Baldry is a great enthusiast in floriculture and keeps quite a nursery of plants of that class for his own amusement. There is a comfortable homestead in a splendid position on the highest part of the property, and the garden, orchard and some of the smaller cleared paddocks are enclosed with hawthorn hedges.
Mr Baldry, who has served the ratepayers for some years on the local shire council and occupied the presidential chair with credit, has now retired from municipal life.
ELLIS'S.
(c/a 7 of A,and 8A, B, D (and C?), Flinders; Melway 254 K 6, being all the land bounded by Main Creek, Mornington-Flinders Rd, and,on map 255, the east-west section of Barkers Rd.)
Close to the estate described above is about 900 acres owned by Mr R.Ellis, who utilises his property principally for grazing purposes, though,under cultivation and the various crops sown are looking very well.
PIDDINGTON'S.
(c/a 27B of section B,Flinders; Melway 255 C 11-12, fronting Whitehall Rd,and the east side of a closed road indicated by Mitford Rd, with Musk Creek just within its northern boundary.)
Another property on which years of hard work have been spent in clearing the land and converting the wilderness of gum trees and undergrowth into a comfortable little farm is a block of 100 acres owned by Mr Richard Piddington. At present Mr Piddington does not go in extensively for cropping, but the small patch he has
under cultivation is looking very well.
HOLLAND'S.
(c/a 27A of B, Flinders granted to Frederick Robert Grantham on 14-1-1879 and probably bought from Grantham's executrix, Eliza Grantham ; Melway 255 D 10,Frontage to the south side of Musk Creek Rd from Mitford Rd to a spot 140 metres east of the Punty Lane corner.)
The property known as "Mitford " has been purchased by Mr Holland, of the Railway department, who evidently intends to make good use of the block, which contains about 110 acres. A very comfortable and spacious homestead, on the lines of an Indian bungalow, was erected by the late Captain Grantham, of H.M. 45th
Regiment, some years ago, and the site commands a very picturesque view over Westernport Bay and Phillip Island, and Mr Holland is getting the place in thorough repair. A good portion of the land has been cleared, but is now monopolised to a great extent by scrub and bracken fern. The property is, however, being got into order and a good area will soon be again ready for the plough .
SMIDT'S
(c/a 14B,section A, Flinders;Melway 255 K7,south west boundary is a creek(not named on Melway)with the south east corner being its confluence with Mantons Creek in the bottom right corner of 255 J8. Frontage to south east side of Punty Lane to about 175 Punty Lane.)
Travelling across country (along Punty Lane!)from "Mitford" to the Flinders and Dromana-road we come to a block of 80 acres owned by Mr John Smidt. Mr Smidt is an old resident of the district and has got his property, which, like most of the neighbouring land, must once have been in a very heavily timbered condition, into good order and has a very comfortable house on the block.
DOWLING'S (Thomas Dowling was granted 3A of section?,Flinders,on the south east corner of Shands and Tucks Rds, in 1884; this block of nearly 110 acres fronts the south west side of Stony Creek and with Daniel Nolan's grant of almost 141 acres,c/a 12, almost certainly the ideal little dairying block,and extending south east to Punty Lane, comprised the said total of about 250 acres. Melway 255 G1,H2,fronting Stony Creek and Tucks Rd and including the "made' route of Shands Rd (Dowling's grant) and Nowlan's grant extended south east from 339 Tucks Rd to Punty Lane.)
On the road from Dromana to Flinders Mr C. Dowling has about 250 acres of good land, 140 of which is cleared and makes an ideal little dairying block. The property is beautifully situated on a slope facing the north and a clear running creek forms the boundary of the farm, which has been appropriately named "The Glen." Dairying at present occupies Mr Dowling's attention and he grows the usual fodder crops necessary for that industry.
GRAVES' (c/a 15, section A,Flinders,s/w corner Punty Lane and Tucks Rd. Only 190 acres. Melway 255 J5, H6, fronting the north west side of Punty Lane with the western boundary being from the creek in the exact centre of G6to a point almost opposite 425 Tucks Rd.In 1900, Charles Graves Snr and Jnr were assessed on 374 acres, Flinders. I cannot establish where the other 184 acres were. )
A little farther along the road toward the coast we come to "Woodlands," a property of nearly 400 acres, belonging to Mr Graves, a very old resident of the district. Besides having a large orchard and garden, the
owner of "Woodlands" goes in largely for poultry farming. Mr Graves also conducts one of the oldest storekeeping businesses in the southern part of the Mornington Peninsula. The property is in good order and crops of any sort should grow well in the rich chocolate soil.
See A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA re Charles Graves and his business partnership with Mary McLear before moving to Shoreham.
SUTHERLAND'S.
( Possibly c/a 28,section A, Flinders,of 84a. 3 r. 15 p.;Melway 256 E11 north to Balnarring Township, i.e.Beach St.)
The farm known as "Seaview," recently part of the estate of the late J.T. T. Smith, has now been purchased by Mr Sutherland. The property contains about 80 acres and, like most of the Shoreham land, is an ideal dairying block, for which purpose Mr Sutherland intends to utilise it, and has a good strip of land under cultivation to provide green feed for his cattle: The homestead, which was built by the late Captain Brown, is in a good position, and the Shoreham creamery adjoins the property.
HIGGINS'.(c/a 24, section A,Flinders;Melway 256C-E9, fronting Higgins Lane, Tucks Rd south to a point opposite No 700,and Frankston-Flinders Rd.)
On the opposite side of the road is a farm of 149 acres, owned by Mr Higgins, who has also 186 acres a short
distance away. (c/a 17A of 101 acre, section A, Flinders,on the west corner of Musk Creek Rd and Punty Lane; Melway.....;and probably 9B adjoining and also between Musk Ck, Rd and Cotton Tree Creek; Melway.......) Like most of his neighbours Mr Higgins goes in for dairying pursuits. His fodder and other crops are looking well.
RILEY'S. (Edmond Riley was granted the triangular, 111 acre, c/a 27 at the junction of Tucks and Frankston-Flinders Rd, south of Higgins' and the 159 acre c/a 23 north of Higgins' across Higgins Lane. Melway 256 C11 and B-E8.)
Another compact well-grassed little dairy farm in this locality, where an abundant rainfall always ensures a
permanent supply of water in the numerous creeks and the rich quality of the soil grows almost all kinds of
crop to perfection, is the property of Mr Riley, at Stony Creek. .This gentleman is a very old resident of the
district and has about 200 acres of land in this locality and other property a short distance away. (Or as trove put it: "perty aeshoriaeifseano -away"' -- -)
(P.2, Mornington Standard,20-9-1902.)
LITTLE BRIDGE FARM.
PROPERTY SEARCHES-FOUR WINDS, FOREST LODGE, WILDWOOD,FERN VALLEY,FERNBANK, ETC.
PEOPLE INTENDING TO COME TO THE BACK TO RED HILL.
Ray Gibb; Margaret Tylee (Hunt) and her husband Andy Tylee, Rae Alexander (Hunt)Glenys Chapman (Hunt);
Barry Wright (me) Pat Wright, my wife, and Peter Wright, my older brother;Margaret Connell; Helen Blakeley; Peter Trewin and his sister,Marion Walker; Henry Edwards;Charlie Lester, Lorraine (nee Lester),Graham Lester;
on 2014-10-19 10:09:26
Itellya is researching local history on the Mornington Peninsula and is willing to help family historians with information about the area between Somerville and Blairgowrie. He has extensive information about Henry Gomm of Somerville, Joseph Porta (Victoria's first bellows manufacturer) and Captain Adams of Rosebud.
Comments
The November 2012 issue of HILL 'N' RIDGE that contains the biog of Ethel Bailey (See PEOPLE SEARCHES)also has an article about the Red Hill Hall in Mechanics Rd, and an extract covering Rae and Margaret Hunt's time in Red Hill is posted below. The article is written by Bev. Laurissen, who like Ethel Bailey, was a member of the threepeat netball team and is a life member of the Dromana Historical Society.
During the war windows were blacked out with paint. The hall was the hub of
entertainment with picture shows and dances. Saturday night dances were patronised by the Armed Forces stationed in the area with only one branch* of the forces at a time - Navy from Crib Point, Army from Balcombe and Air Force from Somers.
Regular Saturday dances after the war were memorable. The ladies catered for the supper. Cups were carried around the hall to the dancers in a laundry basket-tea and coffee was poured from large teapots. Mr Bob Edwards made the coffee in large
containers over the open fire . Hicklins or Gidmans orchestras provided the
music with Mr Gordon Chambers as M.C. Mr Roy Setter was Vice President of the Commitee in 1949. During the 1950-1960 decade, the hall seemed to be the social centre of the community- the Basketball club (now netball) was given permission to hang their Premiership shield in the hall. In 1951,under the guidance of Mr H. Littlejohn, working bees were held to improve facilities eg a porch, light the way to the toilets and other additions. There were regular requests to the Council to maintain the road to the hall.
*This may have been a precaution against the birth of the "blues",if you get my drift.
ORAL HISTORY.
In the old days there were no family historians, and information was passed from one generation to another by word of mouth. Children were willing to accept "what Daddy told me" as gospel. Ever had a case of JOKE-TELLERS BLOCK? You're not quite sure how the joke goes but you remember the punch line so you give what seems reasonable to lead to it.
Henry Everest Adams of Rosebud, whose son Robert married a Hopcraft "gentlewoman" from near the Mornington-Flinders/ Tucks Rd corner, sold the produce of his Vivyan Vineyard in great quantities in Singapore but locals such as Robert Rowley said it was so strong that it would have you climbing telegraph poles. Family folklore had it that Captain Adams was the illegitimate son of Lord Vivian and the spelling of the vineyard's name was designed to hint at a link with, but not to embarrass, the aristocratic family. The truth is that Henry's family owned ships and supplied Lord Vivian during an overseas campaign.
Keith Holmes' story about William Holmes meeting his bride,(see 1945 in the journal) has the fact of the marriage as the punch line and the lead up to it makes sense until documentary evidence emerges that the marriage took place much earlier than believed, before the Sheehan family moved to Red Hill. Luckily,I'm a sticky beak and had a look at the second result for Esther Sheehan.
SHEEHAN Genealogy Page
www.reap.org.nz/~chris/sheehan.html
6. Olive Emily SHEEHAN (21 Jun 1861 Amherst, Victoria, Australia-25 May 1959 Mornington, Victoria, Australia)
m.1883 William Alfred HOLMES (08 Dec 1858 in Port Adelaide, South Australia)
It is of interest that both the Sheehan and Holmes families seem to have followed the same path of arrival (S.A.) and migration to north west Victoria, the latter to Edenhope. I wonder if the families had been acquainted since the 1850's.
N.B. Keith Holmes told me that William was working on the railways and I assumed that was because of the 1890's depression. The marriage definitely took place before the name Sheehan appeared in Flinders and Kangerong Shire ratebooks.
BUSY BARRY WRIGHT.
Unfortunately many old residents don't have the internet so this journal is an attempt to contact as many as possible without blowing all my super on phone calls. The only email addresses I have for my history informants are those of people who have sent a private message to me through family tree circles.
I had asked their opinions about the BACK TO plans and not receiving a reply from Barry Wright for quite some time, I feared that he was ill, and I did not have his phone number. However his reply has arrived and he has some good suggestions about which Sundays in March 2000 should be avoided.
Hi xxx,
Sorry to be delayed in my response. Your proposal for a ?Back to Red Hill? event sounds good to me. The Consolidated school would be a good venue and the timing in March 2015 would also be good (making sure that the event does not clash with either the long weekend or the Red Hill Show). I have a brother born in 1935 who has a good memory of Red Hill in the post war years. He was more involved in the community than perhaps I was. In addition a number of other ex-residents come to mind and I would be happy to contact them if the event gets off the ground My project writing the history of ?Wildwood? is still underway? with some good input from Ray Holmes. The whole thing has become a bit more complicated than I originally envisioned. My plan was to have it completed by Christmas (2014!) but this is now looking a little hopeful. When I do get it to a readable stage I will send you a copy.
Oops! You haven't missed the BACK TO. I meant "which Sundays in March 2015 should be avoided."
CUTE LITTLE BARRY!
WRIGHT.-On October 15, at Dromana Bush Nursing Hospital, to Mr. and Mrs.W. Max Wright, of Red Hill - a son (Barry).(P.2, Argus,20-11-1943.) See Barry's comment just above.
Thoroughly enjoyed reading this all. You have done amazing research Trove is certainly filled with treasures. Will forward this on to my sister to further jog her memory. We are looking forward to the BACK TO ... NEXT YEAR - (I often use the expression -slip of the finger, no fault of the mind!!! Rae Hunt
Rae, I just wish that Red Hill had acquired a different name such as Utopia so I didn't have to plough through 318 results for Red Hill in 1948 articles that were mainly about Broken and Pyramid Hill, Red Cross,red roses,people named Hill etc. The Dromana connection had worn a bit thin by 1948,perhaps because Shaw's bus had been banned again and Mornington was encouraging residents of the hinterland to shop there.
Just after I started my Peninsula research in 2010, my wife bought me a copy of Hec.Hanson's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN at a local market. I was not greatly impressed at first because so little of it was about the Peninsula, but what a goldmine it has been.
G.WILLS,RED HILL FULL FORWARD.
Red Hill upstaged Hastings in the matter of getting an automatic telephone service but I'll bet there were many Red Hill residents who would have swapped that achievement with Hastings for the pleasure of having Deadshot Jack and his brother, Albert Coleman, playing in Red Hill jumpers. G.Wills, Fred Volk's successor at full forward for Red Hill, must have been a fairly good player.
Another Coleman Trains At Richmond
By PERCY TAYLOR
ALBERT COLEMAN, whose full forward brother is doing so well at Essendon, trained at Richmond last night, but has promised to train with his brother on Tuesday.Richmond was much impressed by Coleman, who is a 6ft l 1/2 in. half-back, with heaps of football in him. There is a feeling that he will prefer to play with his brother, but Richmond hopes to see him again.
First appearances were made by G. Wills, Red Hill full forward, who was on the supplementary list when aged 16;(etc.) (P.16, Argus,25-3-1949.)
Albert Coleman's career in the big time was hampered by injury and the time requirements of tending his orchard. See my DEADSHOT JACK ETC journal.
BROWN, BUNTROCK, BOWRING.
After spending two hours trying unsuccessfully to confirm that C.W.Brown, candidate for Mcmillan (Gippsland),former head of the Red Hill cool stores,and prominent in international deals re primary produce (Marketing of Primary Products.
Morwell Advertiser (Morwell, Vic. : 1888 - 1954) Thursday 8 December 1949 p 10 Article)had been associated with OUR Red Hill,I had more luck with F.Buntrock of Red Hill who deplored publication of accounts of crime and criminals when there was enough horror in ordinary news (P.31S, Argus,24-12-1949.)
It seems that the Bowrings and Harveys were related by marriage.
ERIC EMIL FRANZ BUNTROCK
Late of Red Hill Retired Orchardist, Deceased. After 14 clear days Edward Harvey Bowring of Red Hill orchardist the executor appointed by deceased's will dated 31st day of September 1940 will APPLY to the Supreme Court for a grant of PROBATE of the said WILL.
COOK A MCCALLUM solicitors Temple court 422 Collins street,Melbourne. (P.12,Argus,21-7-1953.)
Buntrock possibly had Blooming Bob White's old 27 acre acre property,part of the original Red Hill Township, on the north corner of White Hill Rd and McIlroys Rd (near Bowring Rd) but may have instead had a block on the Red Hill Village Settlement near Prossors Lane, where the Bowrings had previously lived if I remember correctly. (See my RED HILL VILLAGE SETTLEMENT journal.)
G.WILLS.
It looks as if Red Hill's full forward was a spring chicken if he was eligible to play with Richmond's Thirds (U.19's.) Albert Coleman was placed on the final training list too. Also of interest (to me) are Des Rowe (whose family runs ROWEE'S CAFE near Rye Safeway) and Ken Sier (who also played for Fitzroy and ran the Inverness Hotel a few yards north of the N-S runway on Tullamarine Airport.) Jack O'Rourke became a successful full forward for Richmond and probably stymied the Red Hill lad's chances.
RICHMOND: Old: Dyer, Alblston,Burge. F. Cook. M Currie, Fraser. R.Evans, Jones. Merrett, Morris. Oppy, Perkins, Poulter, Roberts (2). Ross,Rowe (2), Sier, Spring. Stokes (2), J.Watson. Wiggins. Wilson (2). Wright.
New: A. Cooke (seconds). W. Seitz(seconds). K Webb (seconds). J. Nix(Trafalgar), T. Allen (thirds). A. Coleman (Hastings). K. Dillon (University), M. Hood (Richmond united), J.O'Rourke (seconds and Sth Warrnambool), G. Wills (thlrds and Red Hill).
A. Pannam (seconds captain-coach).
YOU MEAN IT ACTUALLY CONNECTS WITH THE TRAIN?
PENINSULA BUS LINES
NOTICE
Patrons in FLINDERS--RED HILL area are notified that:
the following services will NOT run after 28th February. next-
From Frankston, 10.15 a.m.,via Red Hill to Flinders.
From Flinders,- 2 p.m., via Red Hill to Frankston.
From Flinders, 8 p.m. (Monday only) via Shoreham and Bainarring to Frankston.
The following service will COMMENCE on 1st March- Tuesdays only.
Ex Flinders, 6.45 a.m, via Higgins and Moats Corners and Mornington and Frankston.
Ex Frankston, 6 p. m via same route to Flinders.
The above trip will connect with Melbourne train, ex Frankston 8.27 a.m., and Frankston train ex Melbourne 5.4 p.m.
There is no alteration to the present Flinders service, running via Merricks and Shoreham. (P.12, Standard,24-2-1949.)
JARMAN.
Trove is wonderful but it can be very irritating.Sometimes I recall an article I'd read years before so well that I could almost rewrite it.Naturally I can remember plenty of key words. In this case,the article had been read no more than 30 minutes beforehand. It went something like this.
PRIVATE COOLSTORE BURNT.
The private coolstore at Red Hill South that burnt down held ? cases and was owned by Devonia Pty.Ltd.
To re-find the article,I entered "private cool store, devonia, red hill south" and the article appeared in none of the results.But why did I have to re-find it?
"Wasn't that the Jarman's farm on all or part of Alf Head's grants near Stony Creek Rd that Hec Hansen used to walk through the back of on his way to the second Red hill School?" I asked myself. It was,hence the 1937 and 1956 articles that start and finish my Red Hill Chronology in the journal. I'm exhausted so this is the right time to finish the chronology. Hopefully references to farms will be easier to find and eliminate other Red Hills (Camperdown, Canberra, Queensland etc.)from search results.
One snippet about Mr Jarman to finish. It was early on, when the school was at the end of Arkwells Lane fronting White Hill Rd (Wiseman's Deviation.)
"Over the road from the old school there was a clear patch of ground. One day I remember a huge crowd had gathered. One of the parents,Mr Jarman, had cut a chaff bag into which he climbed, and all the children had to chase him. We children were more than happy to do so, as he had bags and bags of lollies pinned all around him, back and front. It was a great day." (P.12, MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN,Hec Hanson.)
Do any old residents of the Red hill district remember Norm Jack? He ran a garage at Bittern,played football for Balnarring when it had a team, and was later a team mate of John and Albert Coleman at Hastings. As a lad he used to ride his bike to Clondrisse to work for his aunt (Hurley?) who was on that farm. It was in the quest for information about Clondrisse that I found this great article about Norm. I wonder if he was related to Cr. Kenneth Jack,president of the Shire of Flinders in 1928 when the shire office was built at Dromana (as shown by a plaque near the entrance)and the prime mover in obtaining the first motorised ambulance for the Mornington Peninsula.
There's a photo of Norm Jack and Albert Coleman accompanying the article.
January 31st 2012 by Mornington Peninsula News Group
issuu.com/westernportnews/docs/wpn_jan31st_2012
Clondrisse
vhd.heritage.vic.gov.au/places/heritage/71715
Clondrisse. Location. Boneo Road, CAPE SCHANCK, MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE ... B0011 Clondrisse Cape Schanck ...
Clondrisse
Location
Boneo Road, CAPE SCHANCK, MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE
File Number
B0011
Level
Demolished/Removed
B0011 Clondrisse Cape Schanck
[1/1]
B0011 Clondrisse Cape Schanck
full size
Statement of Significance
A simple two-storey homestead possibly dating from around 1860, surrounded by a wooden bracketted verandah and with extensions of the 1920's, grandly sited to look out over Bass Strait.
Classified: 'Local' 06/06/1963
Demolished prior to 1973
Group
Residential buildings (private)
Category
Residence
ROBERT CALDWELL GOES BUST.
Last night I found a notice of the sale of 10B Kangerong on the west side of Sheehans Rd after about two hours of searching but the discovery would never have been made had I not been compelled to chase up the quaintly named FAIRY VINEYARD in Dromana,which led to a whole new journal.
This vineyard was on land that attracted quite some attention from Red Hill folk in the last year or so,the Hillview Quarry, which the council wanted to use as a tip; the 197 crown allotment fronted Boundary Rd and also included the house blocks in and downhill from Jackson Way and Jamieson St. By 1881, about 7 acres had apparently been sold off.
The 172 acre property (10b) was put under the Transfer of Land Act in 1881 which is an indication that it was about to be subdivided. I have not yet found an advertisement announcing the subdivision sale for which I was looking but it is likely that John Sheehan was one of the early purchasers. The original south end of the main road from Moat's Corner was renamed Sheehans Rd when Wiseman's Deviation was built.
Lot 1 below was the land including the controversial proposed tip site (Fairy Vineyard), and lot 2 was the land west of Sheehans Rd.
THIS DAY.
DROMANA.
Sale by Public Auction of Two Valuable Properties in the Parish of Kangerong.
RESIDENCE, VINEYARD, ORCHARD, and 297a. 2r. 29p. And FARMING BLOCK of 172a. lr. 36p.
In the Insolvent Estate of Robert Caldwell, By Order of R. E. Jacomb, Esq., Official Assignee
For Positive and Absolute Sale. Terms-One-fourth Cash, Balance 6, 12, and l8 Months, bearing 8 per Cent Interest.
ALFRED BLISS has been favoured witb instructions from R. E Jacomb, Esq., official assignee to SELL by PUBLIC AUCTION, at 82 Collins-street west, on Monday, January 30, at two o'clock,
Tho following landed properties, viz -
Lot 1.-297a. 2r. 29p., parish of Kangerong, fenced in with three-rail fence and subdivided.
Improvements,-Eight room wooden house and cellar, partly plastered, verandah in front, tank and several permanent springs. Large quantity saleable timber. 10 acres of orchard, partly pipe drained. About 10 acres of vineyard, six years planted. About two acres of vegetable and flower garden, shrubs of all kinds. This is the property that Mr. Caldwell has disbursed upwards of 4000 pounds upon to make into a sea side family residence and vineyard. It is situate three-quarters of a mile from Dromana Jetty, and is admitted to be one of the most beautiful sites in Dromana, and for healthy atmosphere and sea air not to be surpassed.
Lot 2 -172a. lr. 36p., part of Section 10, parish of Kangerong, fenced in with three rail fence.Permanent water-holes and running spring. Rich chocolate soil. Surrounded by farms. About two miles and a half from Dromana Jetty.
Mr. Watkin, of the Dromana Hotel, will direct intending purchasers to the properties. These two lots are for absolute sale by order of the official assignee.
(P.2, Argus,30-1-1871.)
Many Red Hill teens would attend Dromana Secondary College so a history of the school would not be out of place here.
Extract from my DROMANA PIER journal.
Beside the approach to the Dromana Pier are the George Bishop Reserve to the west and and Ernest Rudduck Square to the east. Colin McLear mentioned the latter in A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA and it was years before I discovered its location by pure chance. Both men were obviously great community contributors but apparently they were also both Shire of Flinders councillors although the LIME LAND LEISURE index on the internet does not mention this, and the heroic George Bishop was not in the index at all.
Therefore I was surprised to find that Dromana Secondary College exists because of George Bishop's persistence. As one of the aims of my research is to acknowledge our pioneers, I often google one of them just to check that I have succeeded. My internet research is usually done from trove (old newspapers)so I hadn't seen this before.
History and Tradition - Dromana Secondary College
Dromana Technical School 1967-1988
Dromana Secondary College 1988-2007
Dromana Technical School 1967-1988 Dromana Secondary College 1988-2007
Albeit minimal in numbers settlement commenced in the district as early as 1838. It would take until February 1861 before Dromana was proclaimed a township. Only thirteen years later in 1874 primary education began with the establishment of the Dromana State School No 184, but it would take another 93 years before secondary education in Dromana commenced.
Cr George Bishop, a Flinders Shire Councillor and Policeman stationed at Dromana, having failed to get a Technical School in Mornington the year before, called a meeting at the Rosebud Memorial Hall in October 1966 for parents of prospective students. He reported to the large crowd in attendance that his tireless work had paid off and he had won the struggle to obtain a technical school at Dromana.
Cr Bishop believed that the time was right to open a technical school to compliment Rosebud High School, a co-educational secondary school that had commenced operation in 1954, and Red Hill Consolidated School which held classes from Prep to Form 4 (Year 10). Any boy however wanting a trade education had to catch a bus and those who resided on the Westernport side of the peninsula, a train to Frankston Technical School.
It was Cr Bishop's drive and enthusiasm and his no nonsense approach to the community that ensured the establishment of our school. At the time of the opening of the school (107 years after our town's humble beginnings) the population on the southern peninsula had reached a level where justification was in order for a permanent technical school for the district south of Frankston taking in the areas covered by the Shires of Flinders, Mornington, and Hastings.
A.E.Bennett was on George Sherwood's grant, 79B, Balnarring but after his marriage in about 1902, he moved onto Davey's Seven Oaks,79A which went north to the Bittern road (now Craig Avon Lane.) I was looking for the par that announced this move when I found the following long article, which will probably be of great interest to current Red Hill orchardists. As it is so long, I have decided to post it as a comment rather than in the discussion about the location of Alfred Ernest Bennett's farm in 1902. Kent Orchard is used here to mean all the land that Bennett occupied in 1898, including Seven Oaks and Kentucky and Rosslyn west of Craig Avon, The last two soon to become Shand/Huntley Farms. (Rate research undertaken after Bill Huntley took me on a road tour of the Red Hill district.)
THE FRUIT GROWER.
ME A. E. BENNETT'S ENTERPRISE. 'KENT ORCHARD", RED HILL.
Red Hill is situated about 50 miles to the south of Melbourne, on the Mornington peninsula. Though only 4 miles from Dromana, on the Port Phillip side, and about the same distance from Westernport, the altitude above the sea level is close on 1000 ft, and is part of the Arthur's Seat range. The nearest railway station is Bittern,
some 45 mile from Mellourne, on the Stony Point line and 9 miles from the locality under notice. The country is very hilly and heavily timbered, and is but sparsely populated. Orchards are scattered about in small patches between Dromana and Bittern. The majority of the latter can hardly claim to be conducted on up to date lines, but "Kent Orchard," the property of Mr A.E. Bennet (sic), certainly stands out as an excellent example of systematic fruit growing.
The estate covers over 1000 acres, the bulk of which is still carrying a thick growth of messmate and scrub characteristic of the locality. About 20 acres of fruit trees were planted out by a previous owner 20 years ago. (says the Leader) without any regard to system, and the trees as they now stand, close together and unpruned, form a marked contrast to the additional area of 50 acres, which has been planted
with due attention to distances and regularity.
Mr Bennett spent four years as a student at the Government School of Horticulture, Burnley, when that institution was under the control of the late Mr George Neilson. The orchard is pleasantly situated on an easterly slope at the head of a valley
opening out on to Western Port, and the exposure to the wind from that source is regarded by the owner as an important factor in keeping the orchard clear of insect pests. There is no need to ask the source of the name Red Hill,after seeing the soil formation which covers the ridges and slopes of this district, which is a deep rich loam of a most pronounced red color, overlying a stiff clay. On the adjacent hills, however, an entirely different soil is met with, it being very light, with shallow
depths of gravel and clay showing near the surface.
That the red soil is adapted to the growth of certain fruits finds ample proof in the products of Mr Bennett's orchard, which comprise many varieties of the apple, together with cherries and pears to a smaller degree. With the advantage of the experience gained from the old orchard, already mentioned, this grower has been able to note the varieties best adapted to the district, and the result is that attention will be almost solely devoted to the cultivation of export varieties of the apple. The brisk character of the climate, with its natural rainfall of an annual average of 35.2 inches, renders the district highly suited to the production of apples, the
main characteristic of which is their hardy character, a quality most essential in varieties grown for export purposes. As the fruit produced is also of fine color and flavor, its value is naturally enhanced so far as claims upon the local market are concerned. This is the sixth year of export from Kent Orchard, and the prices realised have always been leading ones at London sales. The oldest portion of the new orchard is eight years planted, whilst a later section is only two years old.
The 20 years old trees are being gradually rooted out. Mr Bennett says:-'I prefer to do so myself, and not wait until a Government inspector is appointed to tell me to do so.' The area thus rendered vacant will be replanted in a manner to so make the
trees run in unison with the new orchard, and as a result of observations so far, apples will form the bulk of the new plantings.
The varieties to be favored are Esopus Spitzenberg, RomeBeauty, Jonathan, London (5 crown)Pippin, Prince Bismark, Cox's Orange Pippin and Sturmer. With regard to
other varieties now growing in this orchard~Adam's Pearmain, though not a recognised export variety, has been shipped by this grower, who is inclined to favor it for that purpose. Court of Wick, a small russet apple, very hard and of fine flavor, was discarded by the late Mr Neilson, and was consequently shipped without the Government stamp and realised as much as some Jonathans shipped at the-same time. Pomme de Neige is regarded with much favor, but great care has to be exercised in handling it, as the slightest bruise injures the pure white of the 'flesh.' Ribstone
and Ben Davis do not grow well here, Nickajack and Reinettes do fairly well,hut take so long into bearing that they are not looked upon with such favor as others already mentioned. Anne Elizabeth is of attractive appearance, but is not so popular as to justify extensive plantings, the tart flavor being somewhat against it.
Plenty of room is allowed for cultivation, as the trees are planted out 22 feet each way. Continuous cultivation is kept up throughout the summer with discs and scarifiers, and ploughing is left until the spring. An implement that is used extensively on the flat portions of the orchard is called Grant's patent scarifier; Kainit is largely used as a top dressing, and is credited with helping to keep down insect pests, and also tends to check the growth of weeds. Lime is also used as a top dressing on a patch devoted to cherries, but no record is kept of the quantity used. These ingredients are sown broadcast on the surface during the dormant season, just before winter pruning. In a section of newly planted ground maize was grown between the rows on one half, and an oat crop on the remaining portion, all of the land being previously manured with superphosphate. It is a notable fact that the trees. with maize growing in the intervening rows progressed much more rapidly than those with oats. In the latter case the trees, as they appear at present, seem to be quite a year behind in growth. As already stated, the orchard is not troubled by many pests but it is evident that if allowed freedom the Woolly Aphis would soon make headway. Precautions are taken, however, to paint the trees with a solution of caustic soda and lime.
The fruit is picked from the trees, into padded baskets, and transferred thence
into two boxes lined with bags. which are carried on a sleigh. When filled, the sleigh is drawn by a horse to the 'pits' so called. Every care is thus taken to prevent the fruit from getting bruised. The pits are loosely constructed of long narrow troughs, about 3 feet wide, made of timber slabs, with a bed of rushes laid along the bottom.
The apples are stacked in the form of an oblong pyramid, which is about 18 inches deep at the thickest part. The whole is then weighed down with a few planks, and the apples kept in this simply conducted store right up to October if necessary. Mr Bennett claims that they are kept solid and fresh throughout that period, and the fact that they are out in the open is much preferable to having them stored in a shed where the tendency is to become wilted or spongy.
THE FRUIT GROWER. MR A. E. BENNETT'S ENTERPRISE. 'KENT ORCHARD,' RED HILL.
Mornington Standard (Vic. : 1889 - 1908) Thursday 5 May 1898 p 3 Article.
Hastings District Heritage Study
Volume 2
Environmental History,Page 17.
* I'm sure this should be Alexander Shand.
One mill that operated in the Red Hill-Main Ridge area in the 1880s was Shand's
Mill, operated by John* Shand. Later, his son John bought a steam traction
engine and ran three mills, two in Red Hill. One was located in Callanan's road
and one on the corner of Stanley and Red Hill Roads, (on property that was later
owned by the Holmes? Gibson or Thompson grant?). Shand's business was later sold to Vic Holmes. 60 The Holmes also used another sawmill on their property, Glenbower, at Red Hill. This (the sawmill!)they had purchased from the Hodgins of Hastings. 61William Holmes' mill cut timber for use by orchardists in fruit cases. He recalled that there were also several sawpits on Glenbower, relics of an age before sawmills when one man stood in a pit, another over a log at the top of the pit and used a crosscut saw tocut timber. 62
I just had a thought about Mr Mann who had a farm near Warrawee at Balnarring in 1902 as described in the journal. He might have been the Mr Mann who wrote a history of Mt Eliza in about 1917 and actually NAMED the three Canadians who took timber that was loaded onto the Liverpool, anchored well offshore in Canadian Bay; two of them were Alfred Jones of Almond Bush Stud at Somerville and a Mr Hodgins,probably the Hastings pioneer, from whom the Holmes family bought the sawmill mentioned in the last comment.
The location of the Balnarring Roman Catholic Church was 108C Bittern (Melway 162 K 11, now 113 Balnarring Rd)of exactly one and a half acres excised from 108B, granted to John Buckley on 13-2-1880. Crown allotment 108C was gazetted 69/240. Whether this means 1869 or 1969 is anyone's guess.
EMAIL FROM RAE.
I've had such a miserable time for the last few days with internet signal disappearance and edits not submitting even when the signal was great, that Rae's email was the tonic I needed.
Hi xxx
I have had contact from my cousin, Sybil Cummings, a descendant of the Sheehan/Cleine family and she is VERY interested in the Back to Red Hill day. Her family, as you know, had land at Red Hill South there from the 1930's to late 1960's and Sybil attended the Consolidated School.
Unfortunately the photo of the Red Hill Tennis Club in 1947 showing the people named below will not submit in the journal. If you'd like a copy, send me a private message with your name and email address and I'll attach the photo to an email.
Back Row: L-R: "Phip" Cleine (my uncle) Jack Holmes, Aubrey Noel
Centre: May Wainwright
Front Row: L-R: Alice Prossor, Mavis Colliver (my mother), Cliff Colliver (my father) Bill Craig, George Bloomfield.
A BOY CALLED BRUCE WENT TO RED HILL CONSOLIDATED SCHOOL.
And the funny thing is that his farm "Moorunga" (Melway 151 E10) was part of the Bruce Estate. The following article reminds me that Ellerina Rd/ Bruce Rd (the boundary between the parishes of Moorooduc and Kangerong)was referred to as the sea lane. I first heard this from Shirley Walter, nee Bourne, the FEMALE DROVER, who inspired my THE FEMALE DROVER: A HISTORY OF MOOROODUC. John Vans Agnew Bruce owned the roughly 1000 acres between Ellerina Rd and the present Martha Cove Waterway which was leased by Edwin Louis Tassell (after whom the waterway, formerly Tassells Creek) was named.
The sale of Bruce's Estate, part of Jamieson's special survey, was held yesterday at the Sea Paddock yards. It is rumored that the other part of Jamieson's survey, owned by the late Sir William Clarke, is to be subdivided and sold next spring.
(P.3, Mornington Standard, 15-2-1902.)
I am trying to work out who had cleared the trees on "Moorunga" and it may have been James Connell of "Nags Hill" (just to the north in the parish of Moorooduc),if I remember Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND correctly.) In 1910-11 James Connell of Mornington had 238 acres {lots 2-6 of Bruce's and James Connell, of Tuerong (district,not farm) had 230 acres (lots 1 and 2 of Bruce's.)
Messrs John Buchan and Co. have sold 220 acres, at Mt.Martha, the remainder of Bruce's estate," on behalf of the trustees, at the price of ?1 10s per acre, the purchaser being Mr James Connell, of Tuerong.(P.2,Mornington Standard, 1-7-1905.)
James Connell had in 1903 bought the Three Corner Paddock of about 42 acres which I presume is in Melway 151 C11 with McKenzie's Junction being the south corner and Foxey's Rd (formerly Ellerina Rd) being the northern boundary.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 29-8-1903.)
Before we get around to the former Consolidated School student,let's have a look at the farm that he returned to its past to ensure its future.
Historic Moorunga farm seeking $17 million-plus offers
www.propertyobserver.com.au/.../21410-ytc-moorunga-farm-for-sale.ht...
Moorunga Farm at 80 Old Moorooduc Road, Dromana is being sold in three stages.
The first stage up for sale is Males* Block, a 133.85h (330 acre) block on one title, with possible subdivision into three separate 110 acre titles (STCA), for $6.6 million.
(*The Males are recalled by Males Rd. One of the history boards in Main St, Mornington, discusses the family's butcher shop. There is probably further information in Bruce Bennett's THE BUTCHER THE BAKER THE.) Thomas Male was probably another tree clearer.
Males Block offers 200 acres of permanent pastures broken up into 11 paddocks, most of which are serviced by central graveled laneways. These paddocks are suitable for cattle, sheep, horses, goats, or vineyards.
This block also offers unobstructed views to Port Philip Bay, and contains a number of house sites.
No houses or dwellings have been constructed on the site, except for a hay shed.
Homestead Block, which spans 212 acres, will be for sale at the second stage for $5.5 million. It comprises a main house with five bedrooms and two cottages, four machinery sheds, a butcher?s shed, sheep yards, a shearing shed, a pump shed, and a netted fruit and nut orchard.
The final stage will see the 157 acre Irrigation Block being sold, which is asking for $5 million.
It is listed for sale by Michael Phoenix from RT Edgar on behalf of Moorunga Farm director and owner Bruce Brockhoff.
Moorunga farm is being sold because Brockhoff wishes to retire, and to take the opportunity to see his daughter compete in the upcoming Winter Olympics.
$10m tipped for Peninsula farm - Domain
news.domain.com.au/.../10m-tipped-for-peninsula-farm-20131121-2xw... (PHOTOS.)
One of the largest land holdings on the Mornington Peninsula has hit the market for the first time in almost 75 years, with expectations of more than $10 million.
The core of the 283-hectare property known as Moorunga Farm was bought by Harold Brockhoff, of the Brockhoff Biscuits family, in 1939.
It has since been added to by his son, Bruce, who left the family biscuit business to found The Cargo Hold chain of stores and is also a champion Australian glider pilot.
Now selling the property, Mr Brockhoff, who is married to Kristine, says he intends to spend more time watching Winter Olympics-bound Belle, one of their two daughters, compete in snowboarding competitions.
The property, at 80 Moorooduc Road, Tuerong, features a four-bedroom 1960s homestead with a recent extension and offers views of the bay and the peninsula's interior.
An operating Angus stud and crossbred sheep farm, it sits on 10 titles and comes with two timber cottages, paddocks, dams and about 68 hectares of bushland.
END OF BROCKHOFF ERA BENEFITS LANDCARE by Mike Hast.
(P.5,Southern Peninsula News,18-11-2014.
The paper can be accessed online so I will give only a few details here.
In the mid 1980's, Bruce Brockhoff, inspired by the advice of Dick Clayton, his long-time farm manager on Moorunga, embarked on a flurry of tree planting. Dick claimed that indigenous shrubs and trees would improve the farm's productivity and beauty. In the 1940's, Bruce's dad had planted cypress trees to replace trees that previous owners had cleared but they blocked the bay views and made the wind stronger. The 35 000 indigenous trees and shrubs that have been planted reduce the effect of wind, allow grass to grow for stock and native animals,attract birds which eat insects, beatify the property and act as a noise attenuator, which was important when the freeway was built in the 1980's.
Bruce sold about 500 acres to the Martha Cove marina developer in 2003 and 700 acres were sold this year,the 283 hectare core mentioned in the Domain article above,with buildings etc. Mornington Peninsula Landcare Network facilitator,Jacqui Salter*,who received Bruce's valuable parting gifts, stated,"Bruce was ahead of his time when he collected and propagated seeds from his own trees in the 1980's."
(*An ironic surname given that one aim of Landcare is to reduce surface salinity by planting trees to keep the water table where it belongs!)
ACTION APLENTY ON THE GROUND,IN AIR AND AT SEA.
Bruce Brockhoff's great-grandfather,Adolph established A.F.Brockhoff and Co in Melbourne in 1880 after migrating from Germany. Adolph's son Frederick had three sons- Harold (1901-66,Bruce's dad),Alan (1904-89)and Jack (1908-84)- who built the company into Australia's leading biscuit manufacturer;it merged with Arnott's in 1966.
Bruce,born in 1943, was brought up on Moorunga farm and attended Osborne State School and Red Hill Consolidated School (where he learnt sheetmetal, woodwork and apple packing), before going to the independent co-ed Huntingtower School in Mt Waverley.
Many more biographical details are given in the article. It is no surprise that Norwegian Christian Hanson called his homestead at the north end of Tucks Rd "Alpine Chalet" and equally unsurprising that Adolph's descendants were pioneers of Alpine sports, one of the Mt Hotham courses being the Brockhoff Run. Bruce was one of the world's leading glider pilots, built his own solar-powered catamaran in 1998 and has a strong inventive streak,using solar power to aid farm production, and enabling stock to deal with thirst and itches at the same place.
I wonder how much credit the Red Hill Consolidated School can take in the development of such an accomplished man.
CLEINE Genealogy Page
www.reap.org.nz/~chris/cleine.html
The genealogy includes photos of Myrtle Irene Sheehan aged 16 as well as group photos with her husband, Karl Cleine and Eileen Sheehan.
photo of Myrtle aged 16years
photo of Myrtle and Karl taken a year after they married
Karl, Eileen & Myrtle
FARRELL.
No,this is not a comeback! When I switched on my computer to check emails, I actually had an internet connection and thought I'd use the opportunity to tie up a loose end. I have speculated that Mr Mann who resided near Warrawee in 1902 might have been the same chap who wrote the history of Mt Eliza in 1926. My MANN, BALNARRING search on trove uncovered a letter written by A.W.Farrell who was also mentioned in the 1902 articles on farms in the district near Red Hill.
A BALNARRING COMPLAINT.
TO THE EDITOR.
Sir,- I wish to draw attention to the alleged repairing of the road known as Buckley's road (East riding, Shire of Flinders and Kangerong). I say "alleged" advisedly, as I consider that instead of repairing they are actually damaging the surface of the road. If we had a resident officer, who would occasionally inspect the work while in progress, he would know that the only work that could be done which would be of any permanent use would be to metal the four hills, or as much as there was money for. There has been a good deal of money spent this year in loaming portions of the road, with the result that while the present rainy weather lasts the formations are perfect quagmires, and when the weather does take up and the road dries, it will not be one whit better than it was before being repaired. I am sure that no one who uses the road will assert that he can take any larger loads than
he did previous to the work mentioned. There is an example in the East riding of how a road should be repaired, viz.,Stanley's hill. The ruts on this hill were filled with metal, and the middle between re-formed, and now this, that used to be an impassable hill, is an easy ascent. This is what we require on our road, and I am quite sure that there has this year been spent on useless loaming enough to have properly repaired one of the hills in the same manner as Stanley's. I am sure that if we had a practical resident officer, such a ridiculous and regrettable misapplication of the money as has taken place this year would not be permitted to
happen. In conclusion, I may say that the above letter voices the opinions of
all who use the road;-Yours, &c.,
A. W. FARRELL.
Balnarring, February 15.
(P.6, Mornington Standard, 20-2-1904.)
A.W.FARRELL. (Continued.)
The letter writer in the previous comment was almost certainly one of the brothers who purchased 800 acres on the Bittern-Dromana road in about 1895 according to the Mornington Standard ABOUT BALNARRING article of 1902. The brothers appear to have been H. and A.Farrell who seem to have taken a keen interest in municipal affairs, as shown by this extract from the (William) MANN entry in the above journal.
A discussion dealing with the resident officer* question and topics of interest to the shire then ensued. The principal speakers were Messrs W. Oswin, H. Farrell, Cleaves, Mann, A. Farrell, Morris, and F.Jennings. The following resolution was then moved by Mr Cleaves,and seconded by Mr Mann, "That this meeting approves of having a resident officer appointed without delay." This was carried unanimously.
(P.2,Mornington Standard,22-8-1903.)
It is possible that A.Farrell in this extract was A.W.Farrell,the letter writer in the previous comment with considerable interest in road construction, while H.Farrell was H.Farrell was the horticultural expert who was later in Western Australia writing letters about this subject. If A.W.Farrell was A.Farrell and was sincere in his belief in the need for RESIDENT OFFICERS, he would have been living in or near Mornington by 1916 when he was the SECRETARY OF MORNINGTON SHIRE.
(Crib Point Cemetery entry in Hastings DistrictHeritage Study, Volume 1, Page 125.)
A trove search for "Mornington, A.W.Farrell" produced few results but did reveal that A.W.Farrell had proved his ability to serve as a shire secretary before his appointment in the Shire of Mornington. Three of the six F & K councillors who appointed Farrell in 1911 would have known him for about 16 years.
SHIRE OF FLINDERS AND KANGERONG.
APPOINTMENT OF OFFICERS.
The council sat in committee, and dealt with applications, of which there were 18 for the positions of secretary and engineer. Ultimately Mr A. W.Farrell and Mr T. W. Fowler were appointed, the first-mentioned as secretary and valuer at an annual salary of £175, and the latter as consulting engineer at a salary of £5 per annum:
and 7 per cent commission on all works requiring his supervision.
(P.2, Mornington Standard, 2-9-1911.)
BACK TO RED HILL PROGRESS.
1. Red Hill Community Action met recently, think the BACK TO is a wonderful idea, and will help with publicity.
2. As I had not received a reply from the consolidated school about hosting the event, Kerry Watson, the RHCA secretary, suggested some venues and supplied contact details of the booking officer.
3.Very recently, I emailed Cr Tim Wood to request that council resolve to grant free use of a venue,preferably at the Red Hill Recreation Reserve where there is plenty of off-road parking. His reply was prompt and most positive, and Tim has already shown that he gets things done.
4. Tonight I rang Jean Rotherham of the Dromana Historical Society and she told me that because of limited numbers and huge research/organising commitments,society members can't really do much re the BACK TO. Of course I'm one member who can. I have offered to run a publications stall during meet and greet but the committee would have to approve this.
5.Jean raised the possibility of a clash with the Rosebud High School 60th anniversary; Sunday 29 is being avoided because the Red Hill Show on the 28th could cause driving conditions a bit more hectic than elderly drivers would appreciate. However,Sunday 22 will not be ruled out because Red Hill residents who,like Jean, attended Rosebud High, will be able to make a whole weekend of their visit and the Saturday event is unlikely to cause traffic congestion at Red Hill on Sunday.
Rosebud High School/Secondary College 60th Anniversary ...
https://www.facebook.com/rosebudhighschool60thanniversarycelebrations
Rosebud High School/Secondary College 60th Anniversary Celebrations 1954 - 2014. Celebrating 60 years of the School on Saturday 21st March 2015. The facebook page has plenty of contact details.
6. As there have been difficulties finding a technological wizard to record TELLING TALES (an afternoon version of the old "morning talk")and then produce DVDs for sale, I've decided to ask attendees to bring a page (or more if they wish) of their memories of Red Hill. They could also list any photos in their possession that they think might be of interest to other attendees. I will include the text of all of these (separate comment box for all contributions) under this journal and print a book called RED HILL MEMOIRS.
If any attendees have computer skills (or helpers) they could scan their photos (year, names,location etc in captions) onto their contribution to enhance the value of RED HILL MEMOIRS. Better still create a word file including memoirs,photos and captions and attach it to an email to me. Ring or private message me for my email address and name.
My main aim is to make history accessible at no cost (on Family tree Circles)but as some people don't have the internet, RED HILL MEMOIRS will do so at ABSOLUTE MINIMUM COST. I propose that those visitors who wish to purchase the collection of contributed memoirs pay $7 to order, which will cover the cost of postage, and Red Hill residents $5 (for home delivery by me.) Any profits,a copy of the book, and the computer file will go to the Dromana Historical Society. Hopefully the Mornington Peninsula Shire Library will help with binding.
7. Without the need to record spoken contributions, meet and greet could occupy the whole time from 1-4 p.m. There will be a brief welcoming session of 5 minutes after which the crowd (before its whispered conversation becomes as rowdy as that at Tullamarine did in 1989 and 1998)will be asked to vote on whether they'd like to hear a few spoken memories, and if the majority approves,if anyone would like to say a few words (maximum 1 minute unless encored as at the old time concerts.)
8. The venue and date (Sunday in March but not the 29th) will soon be settled but a contacts committee is now the urgent need. I will be contacting some people presently in the area or whose contact details are known(Connell/Simpson, Holmes, Wright, Blakely, Littlejohn, Bailey)to suggest others who could help with contact details for former residents. These people will then meet to compile a list of former residents in a brainstorming session where somebody's memory will trigger that of another member. Anyone whose contact details aren't known by the collective will hopefully be informed through DESPERATELY SEEKING.
The committee's work can be assisted by readers of this comment. If you live in Cairns like one intending attendee,you can hardly join the committee,but you could contact former residents whose details you know and send your contact details (including your email address),and those of any of your contacts who propose to attend, in a family tree circles PRIVATE MESSAGE TO ME. If you can't work out how to private message, ring 0438 874 172 between 7 p.m. and 7:15 Mon.- Fri.
9. CATERING.
The 1 p.m. start is designed to allow arrival from afar without having to leave before dawn, a tour of old haunts and some lunch before commencement. However attendees will suffer from THUNGER (saw it in an advertisement!) and a Red Hill group might like to raise some funds 1-4 p.m. by supplying a cuppa and two biscuits for a reasonable $2 charge. Ring me if your group would like to do so.
Council, due to the good work of Cr Tim Wood,has offered the use of the Mechanics' Institute hall. Tim said the parking should be adequate so I'll have a look at it soon and book it for Sunday, March 22,if it seems to be suitable.
The library offered advice (not assistance) re binding RED HILL MEMOIRS but all text contributions will be posted under this journal or perhaps, better still, in a RED HILL MEMOIRS journal. If people don't have internet access (or a friend/ relative) who can print the contributions from the journal for them, their/b] contributions will be printed to make a STAPLED booklet of about 40 pages, which will be sold for a donation of $2 plus postage. The library will get what it gave; nothing!
Several people (Rae, Marg. Connell,Sid Prossor,Ray Holmes,David Jarman)have been asked to compile a list of potential attendees and if possible to ascertain whether they will be coming. As people indicate that they will be there, their names will be added to a list at the very end of the journal for two reasons: 1.so that people don't waste time and money contacting them again: 2. so that Rae can make name cards for them.
Sorry about all the bold type in the last comment. What I intended to convey was that the stapled booklet would contain only the memoirs of people who cannot access the journal to see their contributions (which will also be posted there.)
HILL 'N' RIDGE.
Community spirit was always strong in hinterland places such as Red Hill and
Balnarring,as typified by A.E.Bennett launching an appeal for the Red Hill Connells when the breadwinner was almost blind and crippled, and another family being helped during the 1940's as described in this journal.
It is continued today by many groups and individuals; among the individuals are those who publish regular community newsletters such as HILL 'N' RIDGE and THE BRIDGE in those communities. Like Rosebud Ripples, these newsletters ensure that newcomers are made aware of the heritage of their area.
Former residents of Red Hill would probably not get home delivery of HILL 'N' RIDGE but they can download issues such as the one I just read. Norma Bright is suffering from reunion overload, as she told me yesterday, but her piece about the Prossor heritage tree in the article about the Prossor family reunion showed a creative mind. The article mentioned Henry Prossor's arrival in Red Hill in 1892 and details descendants to present day residents. (Henry was among the earliest settlers on the Red Hill Village Settlement.As mentioned in one of my Red Hill journals, he had previously been assessed in the parish of Fingal.)
Rae, whose request for information led to the reunion proposal,will like the article about Marj. Cleine; as Phil Cleine was Rae's uncle, his wife, Marj, the quiz whiz and gardening guru,would have been her aunt. What an article by Jill Phillips!
Hill 'n' Ridge - The Small Business Geeks
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DATE AND VENUE FOR THE BACK TO RED HILL, 2015.
SUNDAY, 22 MARCH, 2015 FROM 1-4 P.M. AT THE ROSEBUD COMMUNITY HALL, MECHANICS RD, RED HILL,MELWAY 191 B5.
Email to Cr.Tim Wood.
This email was sent to Peter Gore but did not transmit. Could you please pass on my thanks to him?
Mr Peter Gore,
I wish to hold a BACK TO RED HILL reunion at the Mechanics' Hall in Mechanics' Rd, Red Hill, on Sunday, 22 March, 2015 from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m.
Cr Tim Wood sent me an email containing hire rates and as I would require the hall from 12:30 to 4:30 for set up and clean up, the hire charge (confirmed by Lisa Marris) would be only $27, which I'm quite happy to pay out of my own pocket.
I inspected the hall externally this morning and was pleased but I rang Lisa to ensure there would be adequate seating; as the day will be mostly informal and people will be drifting from group to group, the 70 seats(that Lisa was informed are available) should be satisfactory.
Lisa ensured that my booking was entered so I am assured of the date and times specified and the girls will get back to me with further details. This email is mainly to thank you and the most helpful Cr Wood for your co-operation and help.
Sincere thanks, (my name and address.)
FULL STEAM AHEAD.
I will be informing local papers (including the Westernport News) and the Herald Sun's Desperately Seeking of the reunion details in the hope of alerting former residents whose contact details have changed or have been lost by their friends still living locally.
HOW ON EARTH DID I DO THAT?
i MEANT THE RED HILL COMMUNITY HALL.
The local papers have been been sent emails and the Desperately Seeking letter will be posted tomorrow. Kerry Watson, and Lyn of HILL 'N' RIDGE have also been informed. Unfortunately David Jarman will not be attending; he has a very good excuse (but not ill health as in the case of Bill Huntley.)
The index at the start of the journal and with a contents listing underneath will,in the absence of page numbers,help to locate references that you seek fairly quickly. I had finished surnames in 1943 and 1944 entries but, having accidentally wiped out the 1945 articles,the only way I could avoid losing them was to close the edit without submitting. As Ned Kelly said,"Sooch is life!
SADLY HOWARD HAD TO DECLEINE (That's my sick humour!)
If Sybil can come, I hope she can stay for a few days to catch up with Howard.
ITELLYA.
Howard, Just about to stop work for the night after replying to David Jarman's email explaining why he'd miss the BACK TO RED HILL, I googled CLEINE, RED HILL and was delighted to find that your pioneering family is still represented in the area. I read an old issue of Hill 'n' Ridge last night and was most impressed that Phil started the Red Hill Aggie and Horticultural Society and that his wife Marj was a quiz whiz and gardening guru.(See summary below. i.e. 15-1-2015 comment.)
Could I ask you to let your relatives and longtime Red Hill friends, who have moved away, know about the reunion?
HOWARD.
Thank you for your advice regarding Red Hill Reunion.
I am the fifth of seven children of Philip and (Sylvia) Marjorie Cleine (nee Wright) and still reside and work locally.
The info re the reunion has been passed on to other family members.
Cousin Sybil (nee Colliver) mentioned in the tennis memoir was indeed Philips Niece her mother being Mavis (Cleine) and I have not seen Sybil for many years.
I do have some important Red Hill Tennis memorabilia which I would be pleased to put in the right hands for the club.
Sadly I have a previous engagement planned and will be away the weekend of March 22nd but I’m sure plenty of interest will be created by this event.
To me, CLEINES corner was always the intersection of Mechanics Road and Arthurs Seat Road where Karl and Myrtle Cleine’s Property “Brooklet” (still standing and named Brooklet Farm)was, and with the entrance to what was once the orchard’s packing shed and the original Cleine home further down the hill, leaving the road there in a northerly direction from the corner. On the other side of the entrance drive is part of what was in my youth Rowland’s orchard next to where Shirley Coolstore (Hollands) once stood.
Interestingly in my real estate endeavors I have three Red Hill properties on the market once owned by relatives. Two were once owned by the Colliver family one in Beaulieu Road that I was last in in the 1960’s the other a home they built when retiring from orcharding on Red Hill Road.
The other property is a lovely cottage built for Mrs Berta Wright (my aunt on Mothers side) on Arthurs Seat Road. Haven’t I seen some changes in the district in sixty plus years????
I spent an hour scrolling through your itellya site fascinated by the volume of Red Hill memories you have accumulated and how many anecdotes and press cuttings I can remember and relate to....nowhere near finished searching yet.
Thank you again,
Regards,
Howard Cleine.
Howard wasted no time spreading the word because his sister's email arrived a day before Howard's.
DIANA DAVISON.
I am Diana, nee Cleine, sister of Howard, and eldest of the seven children of Phip and Marj Cleine. I'm interested in the email re: Back to Red Hill, sent on to me by by Howard. I know where Cleine's Corner is. I waited there for years for the school bus!!! I would like to know, who is the Rae who said Phip Cleine was her uncle? Is she the daughter of Sybil (nee Colliver) who is my cousin and who lives in Queensland I believe. That would make Phip her great uncle. You did say, in one of your attachments that maybe Phip was Sybil's uncle. That is correct.
I could, but won't go on for hours. I may write something of my memories of Red Hill as I am currently writing my life story and I did spent my first 17 years there. Now live in Cranbourne East. Can I email my memories and to whom?
THE NAME DAVISON RINGS A BELL!
I meant to ask Diana about this in my reply. During extra rate research re Bowring or Trewin for my village settlement journal I came across an assessment where Davison had been replaced as occupant,probably by a member of one of those families, on a property near the corner of White Hills and McIlroy Rds,possibly Four Winds or noseless Bryan Ringrose's 60 acre grant adjoining it. It might have once been Mrs Strong's farm but I can't recall offhand which of the two 60 acre farms she owned.
Can anybody tell me about the Davisons and Mrs Strong?
By the way,Sheila Skidmore wrote a fair bit about the original Cleine's arrival from Germany and I wonder if there are any descendants of the Fritsch family (which received grants north of Forest Lodge on the west side of Junction Rd) still living in the area. I have written about the Fritsch family in one of my journals,probably in the dictionary history.
Can somebody confirm that Beaulieu (fine place)Rd was named after the Nash family's place of origin?
HILARY MILLER. I am Hilary (nee Cleine), fourth child of Marj and Phip, about whom you have heard from brother Howard and sister Diana. Clearly we were all blessed, or possibly cursed with our parents great love of both reading and writing. I've spent a couple of unplanned hours reading all your history. Marj was a prolific writer and among other things wrote the local news columns for various local papers for many, many years. Phip was partly instrumental in getting the Red Hill Library established. Prior to that little building near the Red Hill Show Grounds being built, we were piled into the back of the truck for the trip to the Rosebud library. We would read all the way home.
The names Mr and Mrs D. Ponter were mentioned somewhere. This was Dermot (Ted)and Janet, I think, who ran the Red Hill Store next to Pittocks Garage in the 1950's. They had 3 children, Jean, John and Graeme. Ted loved helping himself to the lollies whenever a child purchased some.
I spent many happy years playing with my cousins Ian, Kay and Sybil Colliver when they came to visit Grandma (Myrtle) on Saturday mornings. We roamed through the property "Brooklet" with no though of the wilderness it must have been when Charlie and Elizabeth(McIlroy) Cleine built their home down the hill near the old well. Dad's father Karl, one of eleven children I believe, told Dad that he remembered aboriginal people still living along the creeks in those days.
I hope the reunion is a great success. I doubt I'll be able to make it, but we shall see.
FRITSCH.
WHO'S IN CONTACT WITH ED.?
This googling a surname and Red Hill is working well; that's how I found Howard's work email. You will recall that I was wondering if the Fritsch family remained in the area.
This was the first result. Below it is the fourth google result. The same search on trove produced 994 results to plod through.
Ed Fritsch
Managing Director at John Beal (Vic)
Melbourne Area, AustraliaMechanical or Industrial Engineering
Education
Red hill consolidated
18 Nov 1938 - FRUIT TRANSPORT - Trove
trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12064962
Mr. Fritsch and Mr. Nobelius were sup- porting an application to the board by E. W. Price and W. Milburn, of Red Hill South, for permission to carry fruit to......
Trove wasn't too bad,the third and fourth results bearing fruit (another corny joke I couldn't resist) but the latter indicates the amount of correction of digitisation that is often required. I wonder whether K.Fritsch* made it to the wedding.
(*It was actually the groom that was injured!)
Wedding Chimes.
The "marriage fever". is reported as prevalent at Balnarring. On April 25th, Mr E. Fritsch, of Red Hill, and Miss Wornecki, of Balnarring, were married at Richmond, and on April 26th, Mr R.A. Oswin, of Balnarring, and Miss Agnes Callanan, of Shoreham, were joined in the bonds of matrimony by Rev. W. O'Hagan at Mornington. It it reported that the 'epidemic' is likely to be caught by various other young couples in the same locality.(Mornington Standard, Saturday 6 May 1911 p 2 Article.)
The Fritsch-Wornecki marriage indicates why I felt justified in including Bittern,Balnarring and Flinders farms of 1902 in a Red Hill journal. Dick Oswin's marriage is mentioned in my comment on "Newstead" in these articles. There is considerable information about the Callanans in (I think) my dictionary history journal.
UNLUCKY ORCJLVRDIST.
MORXINGTOX, Tuesday. - Mr. K. Fritsch, orchardist, of Red Hil], nhoihouse vvn» burnt down lust month, vv.-ut«auarinc timber for rchuililine: when the aabic tlippeil and cut the calf of one leg io the bono. Dr. Sband put in nine stitches.
(P.4, Argus, 5-4-1911.)
OR IN ENGLISH! IT WAS THE GROOM.
Mr E. Fritsch, of Red Hill, who had his house burnt down about a month ago.-was cutting timber for the new house recently, and was squaring with an adze, when the latter slipped and cut an ugly gash in the calf of leg.Nine stitches were put in the wound by Dr Shand. (P.2, Mornington Standard,8-4-1911.)
When I confined the search to the 1940's, there was not one result. Then I recalled that when Bill Huntley and I were at Fenton's Hall and Bill was talking about the demolished post office,he might have mentioned a Fritsch family member having a saw mill at Hastings. I rang Bill to make sure and he said that Ken and Derek were involved in some way with timber but it was Jack Woods who had the saw mill.
Before I made the call however, I deleted Red Hill and EUREKA! Red Hill was no longer such a vague descriptor. The Fritsch family was still on Junction Rd, CALLED FRITSCH'S ROAD AS YOU WILL NOTICE,but that area was now described as Bittern North. Bill Huntley,living at 214 or 212 Bittern-Dromana Rd (Kentucky and Rosslyn), grew up with the Fritsch boys.
MORTGAGEE SALE
LOT 1.-102 A. 3R. 3P. or thereabouts, unimproved, adjoining the property of Mr E. Fritsch on Fritsch's Road, Merricks North, good timber,suitable firewood, undulating country, nice view of Dromana and Bay from the property, which, when cleared, is suitable for orchard or general farming, 2 miles from Post Office and State School, being more particularly described in Certificate of Title Volume 4131 Folio 826130 being C.A.24B. Parish of Kangerong County of Mornington. (P.3,Standard,31-10-1941.)
Crown allotment 24B, Kangerong, consisting of 102 acres 3 roods 3 perches,was granted to And.w.(Andrew?) Fritsch on (2-9-1886.) It was separated from 24A of 44a.1r.34p.,granted to Charles Fritsch on 11-5-1887, by an original section of Dromana-Bittern Rd that met Fritsch's road 2307 links (464 metres and 9 centimetres) north west of the Craig Avon Lane corner. In 1920,the C.R.B. seems to have constructed the present section of Dromana-Bittern Rd,which went along the west boundary of 24A before zig-zagging through Forest Lodge to emerge at Junction Corner
(Melway 161 H 12.) The titles of 24B and 24A seem to have been changed under the TRANSFER OF LANDS ACT (which was necessary to subdivide,I believe), 6533 over 19.20 and 10608 over 19.20 respectively.
On the east side of Junction Rd a sort of triangle was created by the new road,the old road (Craig Avon Lane)and Junction Rd, the part of Seven Oaks (79A Balnarring) within it being named Seven Oaks Farm and owned by J.Hinds (if I remember correctly)who received the grant for 20C, Balnarring as well. Bill Huntley later owned Seven Oaks Farm and a member of the artistic Boyd family (not Arthur) who lived in Mornington and was the centre of an artistic/ literary group there, desperately wanted to buy it. His name is in a HUNTLEY entry in one of my journals (Dictionary History/ Dromana Pioneer Pathway?)
Andrew and Charles Fritsch obviously established an orchard together and lived together on 24A because 24B was described in 1941 as UNIMPROVED.(Not true about living together as you will see.) They probably grazed cattle on 24B.
In 1919, Mrs Charlotte Gottliebsen was assessed on 100 acres,part c/a 24 Kangerong. I'll lay any money that this was 24B and she was a Fritsch gal.(I'm not a gambler but my memory says it's a safe bet!) I must have had a Fritsch entry in my dictionary history journal including an article about the Fritsch-Gottliebsen connection. Let's try trove.
No result for Fritsch, Gottliebsen.
What's the Fritsch-Wornecki (Warnecke) connection to George Mercer?
MERCER. - A tribute to the memory of our dear
friend, Gunner Geo. W. Mercer, killed in action,
France, on the 28th September.
He has crossed the great horizon,
Eternity's great span;
He has earned the crowning glory
Of a soldier and a man.
-(Inserted by E. L. Fritsch, and T. A. Warnecke.)
103 Acres at-Red Hill Under instruction from the Mortgages T- R. B. MORTON and SON will SELL
All that piece of land being Crown Allotment 24B,- Parish of Kangerong, Country of Mornington,- containing 102 acres 3 roods 3 perches, situated at RED HILL, near DROMANA, at present occupied by Mrs C. Gottliebsen.
Soils chocolate and grey, land fenced,partly - cleared, and old cottage thereon. Watered by creek.(P.2,Mornington Standard,6-2-1920.)
Andrew must have built a house on 24B but it was probably derelict by 1941.
The trove search is going nowhere,probably because of faulty digitisation, and I'm sure I put the 1909 article about shooting killer dogs in my dictionary history, so let's try there.
FRITSCH. (See Gottliebsen.)
Andrew Fritsch was granted 24B, Kangerong of almost 103 acres and Charles Fritsch about 44.5 acres adjoining it on the south across a now-closed part of Dunns Creek Road that joined Myers Rd near the present No. 8 Myers Rd. Andrew's grant is indicated by Melway 161 G 8-9 and H 8. Charles Fritsch's grant's north east and south east corners are indicated by the locations of numbers 8 and 5 in Myers Rd.
Rate collectors had a spot of difficulty spelling the surname and in 1919 Edward Fitsch was assessed on 40 acres and buildings, part 24 Kangerong. In 1900, Charles Fritsch was assessed on 100 acres and buildings, Kangerong and 40 acres, Kangerong. In 1910, Edward Fritsch and the Freehold Assets Co. were assessed on 140 acres (total of the above) as well as some confusingly described land that included E.Caldwell's grant (Melway 159 K9 to the south boundary of the Hillcrest Quarry land.) The assessment refers to 390 acres, five sevenths of (3 written backwards) part 4 section 3 and 196 acres, part 4 section 3. Caldwell's grant, crown allotment 4 of section 3 Kangerong, consisted of 297.5 acres! (P.S. POSSIBLY THE FAIRY VINEYARD!)
It is possible that the Fritsch and Bowring families had come from Collingwood where members of both families were on its council.
(Mornington and Dromana Standard, 4-3-1911, p. 2.) Mr E.Fritsch's five roomed house was destroyed by fire while he was at Sorrento. The year, 1911 was an eventful one for Edward Fritsch. His house burnt down and while he was squaring timber to rebuild it, he cut the calf on one leg to the bone, requiring nine stitches (MS 5-4-1911 p.4.) Edward Fritsch married Miss Warnecki (Sheila Skidmore spells it Warnecke) of Balnarring.
The wild dogs that attacked Mr Downward's sheep near Dunns Creek in 1909 must not have been aware of how good a shot E.Fritsch was with his rifle. Two of them were dispatched.(M.S. 22-6-1907 p.2. and Mornington and Dromana Standard 22-6-1907, p.2, Sorrento.) The woodchop at the Dromana Show in 1907 WAS WON by the scratch man, Fritsch. (M.S. 23-3-1907, p.3.)
The last rate record available on microfiche is 1919-20 so trove is invaluable for information after that time. Sheila Skidmore described how slow and late trains made the Red Hill producers turn to road transport. Mr E.C.Fritsch, Red hill fruitgrower, gave evidence in support of the application of E.W.Price and W.Milburn of Red Hill South to carry produce to Melbourne. (The Argus 18-11-1938, p.2.)
On 15-3-1937, E.l.Fritsch was granted 52B and 51D Balnarring, of 16 and 27 acres, which were northeast and southwest of a railway station just east of Tonkin Rd (Melway 191 K8 and 192 A8.) Today the Peninsula equestrian trail follows the western and southern boundaries of this land instead of cutting through it diagonally toward a spot about 57 metres from the south east corner.
GOBBLIEBSEN 1919 (Huntley worker scalded in bath, written as Gobblietsen.)
In 1919, Mrs Charlotte Gottliebsen was assessed on 100 acres and buildings, part Crown Allotment 24 Kangerong.
I am guessing that Charlotte was a widow and a descendant of Andrew William Fritsch, the grantee of 24B Kangerong, consisting of 103 acres 3 roods and 3 perches but called 100 acres when Charles Fritsch was assessed on it in 1900. C.A.24B fronted Myers Creek Rd from No.8 Myers Rd nearly to the Wallaby Downs entrance.
It is likely that Edward Gottliebsen who worked at Percy Huntley's Rosslyn just east of Craig Avon Rd.(Melway 161 K10-11) was related to Charlotte. The following appeared on page 18 of the 4-6-1925 under the heading: Red Hill. Edward Goleitsen, who is employed by Percy Huntley, orchardist, Red Hill, was preparing for a hot bath, when he fainted and his arm went into the boiling water. It was some time before he was found and his hand and portion of his arm were severely scalded. He was removed to the hospital. Bill Huntley said this happened on Rosslyn in a hut set aside for the victim's use.
J.Journeaux sold his grant, crown allotment 15 Balnarring to the Gottliebsons. This fronted Tubbarubba and Myers Rd (approximately Melway 161 K 7-9 to 162 B 8-9)and later One Chain Rd was built to give access to subdivision blocks. The now-closed section of road between Dunns Creek Rd and Myers Rd in Melway E-J 7 was called Gottliebsons Lane. Two Gottliebson sons married Fritsch sisters one of whom was due to give birth in 1907. (That was a pretty good guess I made above, wasn't it?) Mrs Gottliebson must have had Mrs Grayden lined up to be the midwife and a son had been delivered on 27-8-1907.
THE TROUBLE WITH TROVE.
As the chap who produced the Rye cemetery website with photos of graves etc told me when he was working at the Dromana Museum,newspapers were photographed instead of being scanned,resulting in faulty digitisation. It is almost impossible to find articles that you have previously chanced upon, even if you remember many key words. You'll see why a Fritsch, Gottliebsen search got nowhere and why I initially paraphrased the article. I had to find the article because I stupidly forgot to name the newspaper in the Dictionary History. It was obvious to me that it was The Argus
but I wanted to make sure.
REO HILL.?Edward G obi el Ison,. who ia ployed by Mr. Percy Huntley, orchard 1st, Red Hill, was preparing for ii hot bath, when bc fainted, and lila ann went into tho bolling water.It was some time before he was found, and bis hand and portion of his arm were .severely .scalded. He was removed lo the hosp ital .(P.18,Argus,4-6-1925.)
EMAIL TO JOHN BEAL,CHELTENHAM.
ATTENTION ED FRITSCH.
A BACK TO RED HILL will be held at the Mechanics' Hall from 1-4 p.m.on Sunday 22 March,2015. See a bit of Fritsch history in the last comment under the journal:
RED HILL NEAR DROMANA (VIC., AUST.) POST 1940 and proposed BACK TO RED HILL.
by itellya on 2014-10-19 10:09:26. page views: 927, comments: 36
(MY NAME AND MOBILE NUMBER.)
FROM BARRY WRIGHT 3 MINUTES AGO.
Pity about David and Howard… The Cleines are my cousins – we shared the same grandfather, Walter Wright. I attended Rosebud High just after it started and will be going to the function on the Saturday night of the 21st . Elgar Pittock ran Red Hill Motors from the early fifties (at least) - perhaps earlier. I think any local Pittocks would be related.
Let’s hope there is a good turn-up to the Back To and that some good written stuff comes out of the woodwork.
BE PROUD RED HILL!
I did a swap with Jill Phillips; a loan of HILL 'N' RIDGE archives for my loan of my copy of Hec Hanson's MEMOIRS OF A LARRIKIN.
Issue 27 (JULY 2013)reminded me that many of the Red Hill residents,in the era covered by this journal, made their mark (as the title of a volume in a three part history of Victoria puts it.) This thought first struck me when I wrote the comment about the former Dromana Tech. lad who was an inventive and a very early environmentally-conscious farmer. That really took the bickies if you'll excuse my pun.
I'd earlier read about Keith and Shirley Holmes and their numerous contributions to Red Hill but, blow me down,Ray Holmes was the Surveyor-General of Victoria from 1979 until his retirement in 1988. Not only that, he shares Keith's love of history and, after painstaking efforts, made a discovery in Queensland's outback that is of enormous significance in Victoria's history.
Ray has obviously researched the Burke and Wills history extensively but I believe that too much blame for the disaster has been placed on ex Castlemaine copper, Robert O'Hara Burke,when it was actually caused by Wright who lingered at Menindee until his appointment and pay were confirmed instead of following instructions to take supplies to Brahe and the others at the Coopers Creek depot. Having to bury Charlie Gray with their bare hands caused Burke, Wills and King to arrive at the depot six hours after Brahe and his companion had left and Brahe's reassuring note (buried near the dig tree)wrongly stating "camels in good condition", made Burke decide not to pursue the depot party.
David Jarman had been awarded the O.A.M.for services to the community, both locally and internationally. Well done "Devonia" lad!
Sheila Skidmore and the Holmes and other families have done much to record Red Hill's wonderful history but that will have been wasted effort if new generations of Red Hill residents don't embrace it. It's amazing how many of the new chums embrace this history.
Jill Phillips with her history corner for one. The people who now own the McIlroy "Little Bridge Farm" cherish its heritage; of course it helps that the lovely chap that I met at the Red Hill Lions Club thank you B.B.Q. for Hill'n'Ridge contributors is a National Trust member. He was disgusted that an ancient oak tree on his property was not put on the heritage register because it wasn't pretty enough.
Michael Leeworthy is my kind of artist and he did a great job of the consolidated school mural. As well as promoting fitness for Red Hill residents, he is another new chum ensuring that Red Hill's heritage is made known to the children. His article about Eaton's Cutting road details all known history about Watson Eaton before itellya. (Watson testified at a coroner's inquiry that he had never attended university or had ANY medical training. His gold mining brother was BERNARD Eaton.)
The consolidated school staff is to be applauded for its cooperation in the creation of the mural at the school. What better way is there to pass on an appreciation of the area's history?
Red Hill can be proud of its citizens who made history and preserve Red Hill's history!
Thanks for sending me Rae's information. I had a long, informative email from her and have now established that she is my third or fourth cousin. Her link to us is through my Great Grandma's family....Rees, and her family had land in Red Hill, but did not live there. I also had a long talk to Sybil's sister Kay, my cousin. It all gets quite complicated. There is also the Rosebud High reunion/ 60 th anniversary celebrations that weekend AND a family reunion of the Hilli family who lived in Red Hill in the 1950's and onwards. My first husband was Ken Hilli (now deceased).
Unfortunately, all these things are planned without giving a great deal of notice. I don't think that one afternoon is enough time for such a gathering. The Hilli one runs from Friday to Sunday. My husband John and I will sadly not be able to attend any of these gatherings as we leave home for an overseas trip that day.
Thanks so much for replying to my email and for having my questions answered. I wish you all a marvellous reunion and I'm sure it will be great as I know all the many Cleines, Holmeses,Blakeleys, Wrights, Jarmans etc. etc.. and went to school with many of them.
Thankyou from
Diana Davison (nee Cleine, formerly Hilli)
SOME RED HILL JOURNAL LINKS EMAILED TO PETER TREWIN WHOSE SISTER WILL BE ATTENDING THE ROSEBUD HIGH REUNION AND TELLING HER OLD SCHOOLMATES (WHO MEET MONTHLY) ABOUT THE BACK TO RED HILL.
RED HILL DISTRICT NEAR DROMANA IN 1906 (VIC., AUST.)
by itellya on 2013-04-19 00:13:51. page views: 568, comments: 5
RED HILL GRANTEES SURNAME INDEX, ALPHABETICAL FOR EACH PARISH.
by itellya on 2012-01-07 16:17:54. page views: 536, comments: 0
RED HILL, VIC., AUST. (Entry from my Peninsula District History.)
by itellya on 2012-08-06 04:05:04. page views: 618, comments: 0
ROBERT CALDWELL OF "DROMANA HILL", VIC., AUST., AND OTHER PENINSULA CALDWELLS.
by itellya on 2013-08-22 22:32:11. page views: 671, comments: 0
ROLL OF HONOUR FOR RED HILL NEAR DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2014-08-28 03:27:05. page views: 456, comments: 9
RUDE ROSEBUD SURNAMES (ROSEBUD, VIC., AUST.) THE RAPERS AND PURVES!
by itellya on 2014-06-13 07:02:48. page views: 195, comments: 0
SALTBUSH BILL, AUSSIE ICON, RESIDENT OF BALNARRING, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-04-23 07:02:56. page views: 628, comments: 1
SNIPPETS ABOUT DROMANA, VIC., AUST. (FAIRY VINEYARD?)
by itellya on 2014-11-01 08:18:37. page views: 148, comments: 0
THE CONNELLS OF MOOROODUC, MORNINGTON AND RED HILL, VIC., AUST (and family connections.)
by itellya on 2013-04-25 09:29:19. page views: 962, comments: 4
THE IMPORTANCE OF RAILWAYS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA and the magic of TROVE. DR HEARN'S LAND IN FINGAL.
by itellya on 2012-01-06 19:18:32. page views: 865, comments: 4
THE McKEOWNS OF RED HILL AND DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-02-01 22:41:56. page views: 668, comments: 0
THE MYSTERIOUS SARAH WILSON, PIONEER NEAR ARTHURS SEAT, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-04-30 08:58:57. page views: 813, comments: 1
THE PURVES BROTHERS OF TOOTGAROOK AND ROSEBUD, and THE GODFREYS OF BOORT AND MT RIDLEY, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-11-01 10:25:21. page views: 825, comments: 3
THE RED HILL by Sheila Skidmore, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
by itellya on 2012-07-31 04:29:44. page views: 2186, comments: 4
THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS, MORNINGTON PENINSULA, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2012-10-26 21:43:17. page views: 5055, comments: 6
THE SHIRE OF FLINDERS- SURNAMES LIST.
by itellya on 2012-11-07 05:05:33. page views: 768, comments: 0
THE TASSELLS OF SAFETY BEACH, RED HILL AND SORRENTO, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2012-08-07 03:00:12. page views: 554, comments: 1
THE VILLAGE SETTLEMENT PIONEERS AT RED HILL, (NEAR DROMANA) VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA.
by itellya on 2012-08-22 01:53:57. page views: 1213, comments: 0
WILLIAM BAYNE,PIONEER OF RED HILL SOUTH AND SHOREHAM.
by itellya on 2013-09-16 01:15:32. page views: 515, comments: 1
.FAMILY TREE CIRCLES WORKS! TOOLAROO'S BOOK, "PENINSULA PIONEERS".
by itellya on 2013-07-02 03:23:16. page views: 483, comments: 0
CHRONOLOGY IN VERSE (1800's): ARTHURS SEAT, VIC., AUST. by itellya on 2013-07-26 07:15:02. page views: 370, comments: 4
CHRONOLOGY IN VERSE (1900-1919): ARTHURS SEAT, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-07-30 00:11:03. page views: 338, comments: 0
CHRONOLOGY IN VERSE (1920 on): ARTHURS SEAT, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-07-30 00:15:28. page views: 288, comments: 0
DICTIONARY HISTORY OF RED HILL (A-C), NEAR DROMANA,VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-04-18 04:14:23. page views: 749, comments: 1
DICTIONARY HISTORY OF RED HILL, VIC., AUST. (PIONEERS, FARM LOCATIONS AND NAMES, ANECDOTES.)
by itellya on 2012-08-23 23:49:42. page views: 4913, comments: 5
Discovering DAVEY of Frankston AND Red Hill and Jamieson's Special Survey, Victoria, Australia.
by itellya on 2012-01-11 09:08:44. page views: 1611, comments: 2
EARLY DAYS OF THE POST OFFICE (AND AUSTRALASIA'S FIRST SAWMAKER) AT RED HILL NEAR DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-08-19 12:20:38. page views: 1469, comments: 3
GEORGE AND OLLIE JOHNSTONE OF PURVES RD. NEAR MAIN CREEK, VIC., AUST. (YERING, SUNBURY?)
by itellya on 2013-05-23 12:44:08. page views: 455, comments: 2
GEORGE BURSTON OF FITZROY AND ARTHURS SEAT (VIC., AUST.) and Shirley Holmes, Red Hill legend.
by itellya on 2015-01-21 17:17:18. page views: 54, comments: 2
GOLD MINING AND "BLAIR'S" NEAR DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2014-06-14 21:33:42. page views: 221, comments: 0
GRANTEES NEAR RED HILL, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA (and Alfred Downward.)
by itellya on 2012-01-06 07:36:54. page views: 1227, comments: 2
GREEN HILLS, PURVES RD., ROSEBUD/DROMANA, VIC., AUST. by itellya on 2013-05-27 21:06:32. page views: 337, comments: 0
HENRY WILLIAM AULT, A STAUNCH METHODIST, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-07-25 02:13:23. page views: 535, comments: 0
HILL HILLIS, PIONEER OF RED HILL NEAR DROMANA, VIC, AUST AND HIS RELATIVES (THE TWO BOB WHITES ETC.)
by itellya on 2013-01-14 06:58:57. page views: 1158, comments: 3
HOW DID SARAH WILSON LEAD ME TO HENRY TUCK? SHOREHAM & FLINDERS, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-05-20 23:59:28. page views: 835, comments: 5
PIONEER PATHWAY, DROMANA, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2012-09-30 03:21:10. page views: 2470, comments: 6
PIONEERS OF RED HILL, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA and part Hastings Heritage Study in Janilye's comment.
by itellya on 2012-01-04 08:10:43. page views: 2338, comments: 8
RAILWAYS ON THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA, (Red Hill- Bittern etc.), VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2013-07-31 11:27:43. page views: 1027, comments: 1
EMAIL TO THE SHIRE'S HERITAGE PLANNING OFFICER.
BACK TO.
I have organised a reunion of present and former residents of the Red Hill district with the aim of compiling a post 1940 history (as well as providing an opportunity for old mates to meet after many years.)
It will be held in the Red Hill Community Hall in Mechanics' Rd, Red Hill, from 1-4 p.m. on Sunday, 22 March, 2015. You are cordially invited to attend.
RED HILL RAILWAY.
After I sent the email on this subject, it occurred to me that a thematic study would have to mention the acceleration, caused by the railway terminal, of the focal point of the district moving from the area near the original post office (710 White Hill Rd) to Red Hill South, best illustrated by the moving of the Methodist Church from near that post office (whose owners, the Wheelers, had donated the site) to Mechanics Rd as described by Sheila Skidmore in THE RED HILL. Incidentally, this church building,later located at Peninsula Gardens (now Peninsula Sands Estate) is now located in the grounds at Padua College (Hill 'n' Ridge article) at Rosebud (Keith Holmes.)
Does this building have a heritage classification, with its present location noted?
DID THEY DRINK A SHANDY TO CELEBRATE?
Today, I need to ring David Ditterich of Dromana about the BACK TO. I was intending to do it on Saturday but I read issue 32 of Hill 'n' Ridge and needed to write my NAMING OF BROWNS RD journal as a result. The inclusion of this comment in a post 1940 Red Hill journal can be justified in several ways. 1.It was found while searching on trove for PITTOCK,RED HILL (a fizzer) and then PITTOCK, DROMANA to find a mention of the Red Hill garage that Peter Jackson told me about. 2. Shands and Roberts Rds were almost certainly officially so-named after 1940, and maybe 1950, and in a Hill 'n' Ridge article about Shands Rd, it was presumed that a road built (giving access to Shand's sawmill) was Shand's Rd, when it was Roberts Rd.
This road was built on crown allotment 20 Wannaeue which had been selected (in its entirety)by Alexander Shand and Keith Holmes told me that Roberts Rd followed the route that was taken from the mill to Main Creek Rd on the way to Red Hill. From there, most of the timber would be taken via Eatons Cutting Road to Dromana and loaded on a vessel bound for Melbourne, such as William Henry Blakeley and Captain Billy Moore's "Fear Not" mentioned on page 24 of Sheila's THE RED HILL.
When Roberts Rd was built, crown allotment was split into three parts: 20A, Melway 171 K11 (175 acres,John Shand, 1903); 20B(30 acres fronting west side of Roberts Rd, W.Shand, 1902?) and 20C 130 acres bounded by Roberts, Main Creek and Shands Rds, William Johnstone*, 19-7-1902.)
* Wiiliam Johnson's descent from THE MYSTERIOUS SARAH WILSON, his relationship to the Laurissens and Christie Johnstone of Flinders, and the reason he changed the spelling of his surname, are explained in Petronella Wilson's GIVING DESTINY A HAND, now hard to access, so much detail is included in my journal about Sarah and HOW SARAH WILSON LED ME TO HENRY TUCK.
3.The site of Ditterich Reserve was donated by the family of the man who performed the ceremony (who married a Shand girl and unfortunately died young in Tasmania as documented in the Ditterich entry in my Red Hill dictionary history journal if I remember correctly.) The family contribution to the Main Ridge (formerly Main Creek) Cricket Club is discussed in a Hill 'n' Ridge article about the club along with details about Colin White who played for many decades and his champion Wyatt grandson.
Why did I mention Shandy in the heading? First of all, my corny jokes. Secondly, Alexander Shand was an early stalwart of the Methodists near Red Hill, a plaque (as mentioned in Hill 'n' Ridge)uncovered by (Mrs?) Knox testifying to his leadership. Alexander probably had the same opinion of alcohol as Nelson Rudduck and the Methodist BAND OF HOPE which steered its members away from the temptations of drink, smoking and swearing.So if they did let their hair down, a SHANDY would have been as naughty as they would get. Wouldn't it be great if the name of this drink, mostly lemonade with a touch of beer, was coined in Red Hill. You know, RED HILL- HOME OF THE SHANDY.
About a year after this marriage (below),the bride's brother, John Shand, known to his friends as Peter, married Mary (nee Hope)the widow of John Huntley Jnr. and moved onto the Huntleys' "Hillside Orchard" (Melway 191 F3.) By 1902, John and Mary were on Kent Orchard (191 H3) while some of Mary's daughters (Misses Huntley) remained on Hillside Orchard. Later John and Mary established Kentucky and Rosslyn (214 and 212 Bittern-Dromana Rd, Melway 161 J11) which passed to Mary's son, Percy Huntley, whose 94 year old son Bill will unfortunately miss the BACK TO because he is not well.
(Bill Huntley, Shire of Flinders and Kangerong rates, AROUND RED HILL,as in journal.)
Bill Huntley told me that many of the Shands had moved to Gippsland. That was probably how Alexander Jnr met his future bride.
SHAND—LANGLANDS.—On the 6th September, at the Parsonage, Camberwell, by the Rev. R.
Ditterich, brother-in-law of the bridegroom, Alexander, youngest son of Alexander Shand, of Dromana, to Isabel Mary, youngest daughter of G. B. Langlands, "Wilton," Welshpool, South Gippsland. (Family Notices
The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) Saturday 2 December 1899 p 55 Family Notices.)
This notice was among the results because of a PITTOCK death notice and would never have been found if Cr Graham Pittock's father had not run a garage in Red Hill.
OOPS. JOHN SHAND WAS THE GROOM'S BROTHER!
NOSELESS BRYAN RINGROSE, CROWN ALLOTMENT 18B,KANGERONG,(MELWAY 90 K1).
This comment was prompted by a search of my Red Hill dictionary history to see if there was a DITTERICH entry. There wasn't and there wasn't anything about the family under SHAND. Then I spotted the RINGROSE entry and thought I should explain why I called Bryan "noseless".
The Kangerong parish map can be accessed online by googling KANGERONG, COUNTY OF BOURKE. Crown allotment 18B, consisting of 59 acres 3 roods 15 acres, was granted to B.Ringrose but the date of issue is not given on the map. The block was south of Four Winds(18A,granted to Henry Dunn, at the corner of White Hill and McIlroys Rds) of almost the same size and to the east a much later grant (possibly closer or soldier settlement)of 22 acres obtained by S.P.Calder, who was possibly the architect who designed the 1928 Shire hall in Dromana and son of the first C.R.B. Chairman, William Calder, who was President of the Red Hill Show committee until his death; a show report stated that William's "Four Winds" could be seen from the showgrounds.
Crown allotment 18B had a 2243 link (451.219824 metre) frontage to the east side of the road from Moat's corner between a point opposite the Tumbywood Rd corner and 1879 links (377.994672 metres)south of McIlroys Rd and a point opposite the present Sheehans Rd corner. My practically illegible paper map shows that about half of the property later became two adjoining closer or soldier settlement blocks, one fronting White Hill Rd and neither adjoining Four Winds.
A WORD FROM OUR SPONSORS. (20b, Kangerong.)
Do you remember Trevor Chappell's underarm bowl on the last ball of a one day match against the Kiwis? One Red Hill resident would have found it hard to forget and that was well after 1940.
LOXTON (Edited extract from present pages 100-101 of "Peninsula Dictionary History".)
Sam Loxton (who recently died on 3-12-2011) was interviewed for an article about the famous underarm bowl incident on the last ball of a one-day international against New Zealand in 1981 (Sunday Herald Sun 30-1-2011.) Sam hadn't known how to respond to Greg Chappell's instruction to his brother, Trevor, to bowl such a (literally) low ball so he took Billy Sneddon's advice (as described above.) The article went on to say that, after delivering this spray to Greg, Sam left the ground and drove back to Red Hill where he lived.
S.L.Loxton became the owner of crown allotment 20B, no section, parish of Kangerong on 16-11-1939. Consisting of just over 106 acres, this block (indicated by Melway 161 B-C 10) was accessed via Bowrings Rd off McIlroy's Rd. S.L.Loxton, who was almost certainly Sam's father and known to Thelma Littlejohn's family as Sam, was a member of the committee of the Prahran Cricket Club from 1941 until his death in 1974. Sam Senior was an electrician but in 1956 he became the FIRST PRINCIPAL of the Melbourne Royal Arch. I presume that that would make him a Grand Master of a lodge, and this introduces another cricketing connection, as the first to occupy this position (in 1884) was the venerated Sir William John Clarke at whose "Rupertswood" at Sunbury the "Ashes" were created. There is also a Red Hill connection in that Sir William owned the Survey (Safety Beach to Bulldog Creek Rd) where many pioneers near Red Hill had made their start in the area (Henry Dunn, 1846-51, followed by the McLears, Watsons, Eatons, Clydesdales and so on.)
I will not provide details of Sam's sporting exploits here because they are available on wikipedia.
BACK TO NOSELESS BRYAN RINGROSE. (EXTRACT FROM RED HILL DICTIONARY HISTORY JOURNAL.)
RINGROSE 1865. The illegible writing in the 1865 assessments led to me transcribing this name as Ringrove. The pioneer had 60 acres. The name of Mrs Ringrose appeared in George McLear's account book in 1865.
The Ringrose family evidently settled on its 60 acre grant (whose location is described in the entry for Arthur E.HILL)in 1865 but the rate collector didn't know much about them and failed to provide an initial for the surname which I guessed was Ringrove. The assessment of 1868 records the occupant of the 60 acres (i.e. 18B Kangerong) as Brian Ringrose.
It seems that this pioneer had been much concerned in public affairs at Smythesdale before coming to Red Hill, that is if his given name was Briant! After finding that Mr Ringrose was forever moving and seconding this and that according to a Ballarat newspaper, The Star, I came across an article on page 3 of the 23-5-1863 issue, which stated that Mr Briant Ringrose was the manager of the Great Trend Co. An advertisement on page 4 of the 18-2-1862 issue of The Star shows that Bryan Ringrose was the manager of the Reliance Gold Mining Company whose operations were to be at Scarsdale; however, he was later taken to court for not paying calls on his shares. After the accident mentioned below, Ringrose was taken to Scarsdale.
Mr Ringrose had been one of 18 men proposed by a meeting in 1861 for the municipal election of seven members. Smythesdale had much interest in communal activity and an exhibition was planned. In an article about the planning committee, an interesting item found underground by Mr Bryan Ringrose was mentioned. (The Star 19-9-1861.) Mr Ringrose was a member of the local Turf Club (13-9-1862 page 1s),and on the committee of the cricket club (1-11-1860 page 2). He was a manager or shareholder at several gold mining companies such as the Great Trend, the Reliance, the Mount Bute (The Star 3-11-1862 page 4)and, one would think, finally, the Cape Clear, where Bryan found he no longer had a nose for business. (Sorry Bryan, I deserve punishment for that one!)
It would be fortunate if our Red Hill pioneer had spent his previous time at Ballarat rather than in Tasmania (as Trove demonstrates) but not so fortunate if our Briant/Bryan Ringrose had moved to another mining company by November 1863; if so,he no longer had a nose. (The Star 25-11-1863 page 2.) This explosion took place at
Sprindallah where Bryan Ringrose had applied for a mining lease in 1861 but then withdrawn his application (The Star 5-11-1861, page 3.)
It would seem that Bryan Ringrose decided that a quiet farming life was better suited to a man who had been disfigured and moved to Red Hill within a year of his accident. After the article of 25-11-1863, there was no more mention of Bryan Ringrose of Smythesdale!
There is not yet proof that the Smythedale pioneer was also the Red Hill pioneer. I have not even found a Brian/Bryan Ringrose in genealogy websites apart from one in New Zealand. I have asked the historical society which covers Smythesdale if they have any record of Bryan Ringrose being still in that area in 1865. (See end of RINGROSE entry!)
Today, I traced the Ringrose grant year by year and these are my findings.
All entries relate to 60 acres of land in Kangerong.
2-9-1865. 1-9-1866. 1-9-1867. Ringrose (surname only) was assessed on 60 acres, Kangerong, a house being first mentioned in 1867 but probably there all the time.
5-9-1868. The given name, Brian, is recorded for the first time . The house had one room.
4-9-1869. The given name was altered with a stroke (/) to turn i into y. The house is not mentioned.
3-9-1870. There are no assessment numbers but the person to be rated is recorded as Bryan Ringrose.
2-9-1871. No Ass. No. After Bryan Ringrose's name that of William Hillas (sic) is written in inverted commas, probably indicating that William Hillis was leasing the 60 acres. William Hillis was not assessed on any other land (P.S.IN THE PARISH OF KANGERONG.)
7-9-1872. No Ringrose. No assessment numbers. William Hillis was assessed on the 60 acres under H. One would assume that he had bought the land but with these rate collectors it is dangerous to assume anything.
6-9-1873. No Ass.No. Under H, William J.Hillis is crossed out and Francis Hirst is written above it. The owner's name, Ringrose, is not forgotten as it was in 1872.
5-9-1874, 2-10-1875, 15-9-1876. Under H, Francis Hirst was assessed each time with the owner being, respectively: Ringrose, Bryan Ringrose and Blank! Had it been sold this time?
14-9-1877. No listing under H (Hirst) or R (Ringrove). Look at every assessment in Centre Riding for 60 acres Kangerong or Ringrose in "Owner" column. Job Sherwood was leasing the 60 acres from B.Ringrose.
27-7-1878. Job Sherwood still leasing from B.Ringrose. N.A.V. was 14 pounds. (I hadn't checked it previously but I did notice it had been 10 pounds earlier on.)
24-7-1879. Nothing under S. Nothing under R. Look through all centre riding assessments. Under D, Charles Daniel was recorded as leasing from B.Ringrose.
31-7-1880, 30-7-1881. Nothing under D. Check whole of centre riding again for 60 ac K or Ringrose in owner column. The property had been forgotten (see ASSESSMENTS entry) and at the very end it was noted, without an assessment number, that what looked like John Gawin was leasing from B.Ringrose. The 1881 entry was clearly John Galvin and he was a labourer but the owner column was blank. Had Galvin bought 18B Kangerong?
29-7-1882, 21-7-1883.(A.N. 276 and 275/150, in shire, in riding.) Occupant column blank but Bryan Ringrose was listed as the owner in both years. The 83-4 rates were paid by Mr Ellis on 26-5-1884. I think we can assume that Ellis meant Hillis.
19-7-1884. (Nothing near previous assessment numbers.) Check whole riding for 60 acres K or Ringrose in owner column. (A.N. 110.) William Kemp, orchardist, was leasing from B.Ringrose.
20-7-1885. Not one Kangerong property of 60 acres was listed. No Ringrose in owner column. This looks like it!
17-7-1886. I wrote nothing so the result must have been the same as for 1885.
16-7-1887. Between Rudduck (157) and Segrave (158) but with no assessment number or occupier name, Ringrose was listed as the owner. The rates were paid by Hillas (sic.)
Blank July, 1888. A.N.28. Ringrose in owner column.
Blank July, 1889. No 60 acres Kangerong assessed. Had it been absorbed into a large landholding or had the rate collector forgotten the property again? Hardly any entries in the owner column and no sign of Ringrose.
Blank July 1990. No 60 acres Kangerong or Ringrose. A retrospective examination re William Hillis made sense of a baffling entry in 1891. In 1890, William Hillis was assessed on 273 acres in Wannaeue and Kangerong; to the left of this description, in tiny numerals, 60 was written above 213 (A.N. 98.) One would assume that this meant 60 acres in Wannaeue and 213 acres in Kangerong but as I said before, with these rate collectors don't assume anything.
William Hillis was granted 23A Wannaeue on 12-11-1888 and 23B Wannaeue on 10-12-1885. The first consisted of 59 acres 3 roods and 34 perches and is roughly indicated by Melway 171 H, part J-6. The second consisted of 153 acres o roods and 36 perches and is indicated by 171 pt.J, and K, 5-6. With 40 perches making a rood and 4 roods making an acre, the total of these two allotments is 213 acres and 30 perches. Therefore the 60 acre block was in Kangerong. Segrave's 60 acres were in Flinders and the only other 60 acre block, apart from Bryan Ringrose's 18B Kangerong, was Henry Dunn's "Four Winds" but this had become 233 acres years earlier.Therefore the land on which William Hillis was assessed in 1890 should read: 60 acres, 18B Kangerong and 213 acres, 23 AB Wannaeue.
Blank July, 1991. William Hillas (sic) was assessed on 60 acres Wannaeue and Kangerong. Perhaps William had mortgaged his grants or they may have been sequestered so he only had Bryan Ringrose's grant but because the rate collector wasn't sure whether the 60 or the 213 acre land was in Wannaeue, he kept the Wannaeue and Kangerong tag.
Blank July 1992. William Hillis could have had 60 acres Kangerong (preceded by an ink blot that looked a bit like a one or 160 acres.
If our Bryan Ringrose was disfigured and not often seen in public, it seems that William Hillis was one of his few friends. The following is being placed here rather than in the HILLIS entry so that it can be seen in context regarding the information from the rate books.
Bruce Bennett states on page 22 of THE BUTCHER THE BAKER THE:
William Hillas (sic) owned land on the corner of Wilsons and Main Creek Rd (i.e. 23 AB Wannaeue) and 27 acres on the top of White Hill including Watermill Farm. He was named as a butcher in the 1884 rates and appears to have been Red Hill's first butcher.
While reading an extract from Joseph McIlroy's diary on page 19 of Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL, where Joseph mentioned staying the night at Mr Hillis's place while bringing a steer back from Frankston on 9-3-1881, I was thinking of the Wannaeue land and presumed that for some reason he had travelled via Eaton's Cutting. Now it is pretty clear that he had travelled up White Hill Rd from Moat's Corner and stopped near the McIlroys Rd corner. William Hillis may have been leasing S.P.Calder's much later grant. He could not have been on Bryan's 18B because John Galvin seems to have been there from July 1880 to July 1882.
I received the following reply from Margaret Roberts, Research Officer of the Woady Yaloak Historical Society. Dear ---, I have searched through all our records and I have reached the same conclusion as you. The Brian Ringrose who was at Red Hill is most probably the same one who was at Smythesdale/Browns/Scarsdale in the early 1860's. Did you notice there was also a Joseph Ringrose here as well? A brother or father maybe as they were involved in many of the same mining ventures.
As you have surmised I have found no records of either of them after the accident. The two doctors who attended the victims, Drs Foster and Saengar were two of the best doctors in the area. Dr Foster was at Piggoreet and would have been the closest doctor to the accident whereas Dr Saengar was at Scarsdale and would have been the next closest. Poor Dr Saengar was murdered in September 1865 by a deranged man in Scarsdale. Please note that Smythesdale has an S in the middle. I noticed that in your article on him in the Red Hill article you omitted it. Good history though, congratulations.
Thanks Margaret for all your trouble. Sorry about the missing S which I have now remedied.
iF YOU THINK THAT IT'S FAR-FETCHED TO PRESUME THAT BRYAN RINGROSE MOVED FROM NEAR BALLARAT TO (OUR) RED HILL, HERE'S ANOTHER BLOKE THAT DID PRACTICALLY THAT. ONE OF HIS SONS, THE CRACK RIFLEMAN I THINK, WHO TOURED THE LAND AS A SORT OF BUFFALO BILL TO SHOW THAT A CERTAIN RIFLE OR AMMUNITION WAS SUPERIOR, MARRIED A Red Hill HUNTLEY GIRL.(Bill Huntley.)
DAVID MAIRS OF THE PARISHES OF BLACKWOOD AND BITTERN, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2012-08-26 10:51:08. page views: 1112, comments: 5
Peter Hemphill now lives in Flinders (grandson of Jerve Wilson) orchardist who served in the Boer war.
EMAIL TO PETER HEMPHILL.
Peter,
I could find no mention of Jervis (David's spelling) Wilson re the Boer War or a notice re a Hemphill/Wilson marriage so I dashed down to the Dromana Museum before it closed and Jean Rotherham told me to ring Bev Laurissen. Bev gave me the vital information that Jervis was actually Gervis (which might be Gervas because she only said the word), was absolutely not a descendant of Sarah Wilson, and that some Wilsons in England had told her that he came from Tasmania.
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(He might have enlisted for the Boer War from there.)
The following website makes no mention of Gervis or Gervas Wilson, but there again, Ern McKeown, Will Littlejohn and Mr Keogh are not listed either.
(P.147, A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA, which also shows Will (Pop) Littlejohn with his chooks.)
Boer War Descendant Database - Browse by Descendant
www.bwm.org.au/site/Database_by_Descendant.asp
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z. A .... Diane Carmichael Private James Leslie Wilson ... Christopher Dawson Captain George Wilson.
G.Wilson below could be a possibility in light of what Bev said. He was not one of the two men named George Wilson in the above website.
05 May 1902 - THE BOER WAR. TASMANIAN SQUADRON ...
nla.gov.au/nla.news-article64556874
A. Walker W. P. Lee J. Pratt E. CroBby B. W. Gaby A. B. Bmythe J. Crawford J. Lane H. Bailey T. P. Drtk9 L. Johnson A. V Broir H. M'Pharaon G. Wilson \V. Little ...
You know, I suspect that I saw a death notice or a personal par about Peter's grandfather which I must have found by chance, because the given name rings a bell, but I probably didn't copy it because it didn't appear in Petronella Wilson's genealogy.
Good heavens all this chasing your tails when you should have asked me!!
His name was Gervaise Maison Wilson and his service number was 508.
You'll find him on the Nominal Roll page 248.
All information is held at the Australian War Memorial which is now all online or a phone-call away.
Happy Australia Day.
NAME: Gervaise Mason Wilson
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880
AGE: 85
DEATH PLACE: Dromana, Victoria
FATHER'S NAME: Alfred
MOTHER'S NAME: Flora Hunt
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1965
REGISTRATION PLACE: Victoria
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 20045
SPOUSE: Christian Jane Graves married 1908
I see he was listed in the electoral rolls as Gervase Mason, however on his enlistment into the 3rd. Contingent the spelling of his name was Gervaise Maison.
Private Wilson was invalided back to Australia om 2 May 1901
Off to War.
Thanks janilye, you'e a marvel!
See my new journal ( FIVE DIFFERENT WILSON FAMILIES NEAR MORNINGTON AND ARTHURS SEAT, VIC., AUST.
by itellya on 2015-01-26 05:55:28.) for the ancestors of Peter Hemphill and four other Wilson families.
KIRBY,ARKWELL/SHERWOOD/ROBERTS,GOVERNMENT ROAD?, HOLMES/LAURISSEN AND DR.HOLMES.
You don't remember Dr.Holmes? He's another Red Hill resident (not a quack) writing a history and its amazing how much I found out about him when I googled RAY HOLMES,RED HILL, such as his rise as a surveyor, his presidency of the Australian Surveyors group and, of course- if you read Jill Phillips' article,the finding of Wills' dumped surveying instrument in Queensland.Ray is keeping March 22 clear and informing others.
I was wondering if the Arkwells were still around in the 1940's and this led to my additions to the 1947 entry in the journal's chronology section. Kirby's death notice shows that he lived in GOVERNMENT ROAD,Red Hill South, which I presume was Mornington-Flinders Rd as this would have been a C.R.B. responsibility rather than the shire's. Does anybody remember where the Kirbys lived? Was James Holmes of Red Hill South on the Village Settlement?
One of the dead Arkwell brothers had appointed a nephew (Sherwood) and a Mr Roberts as executors, which makes me suspect family marital connections but none have been found. Clara,last of the Arkwells, died in 1951.
PROSSOR.
I've been searching through my scribbled rate transcriptions for it without luck. When I started my Peninsula research in about August 2010 my focus was on Rosebud but I decided to include Dromana too. Thus I transcribed only Kangerong and Wannaeue parishes.However my eyes would detect items of interest such as "Charles Graves 374 acres, Flinders",which I'd jot down as an aside. Later I did special transcriptions re a person or property and jotted down more asides.
One of these was Henry Prossor, ? acres (written but not in my memory bank),Fingal (probably 1880's.) Henry was not a grantee in Fingal,south of Limestone Rd to the line of Weeroona St.
That was probably from where he had "first come to Red Hill". As Graeme Prossor and other descendants are still in the area, the following is relevant to a post 1940 history. I'd tried PROSSOR, FINGAL without luck so I deleted Fingal and found this.
Thank to the Frankston Library for the corrections. Hopefully they don't think this article was about Henry Prosser, one of the founders of the Frankston Fish Company, whose daughter, widow Sawyer,married again to Amis Renouf, (another fish company director) as explained in my journal RENOUF ON THE MORNINGTON PENINSULA.
RED HILL.
Mr. H. P. Prossor, one of the most capable orchardists at Red Hill, has done much to make known the resources of this part of the Mornington Peninsula. When first he
visited the place, nearly 30 years ago, its suitability for fruit trees,strawberry plants, and berry bushes, appealed to him, and settlement there in preference to other parts of Victoria was decided on. The clearing of the land involved strenuous effort, but the richness of the soil soon manifested itself, and returns from
strawberries were obtained in the second year.
Mr. Prossor is now the owner of 40 acres* within a mile of the Red Hill railway station. Fruit trees cover 30 acres and heavy crops of export apples are gathered every year. Since the orchard became profitable there has not been a failure, and yields are considerably above the best averages in other apple and pear producing portions of the State.
"Myrtle Grove" is the name of Mr.Prossor's fine orchard. It contains nine acres of Jonathan apple trees from five to 19 years old, 1½ acres of Rome Beauty, 1½ Yates, ½ Pomme de Neige, ½ Rokewood, and three acres of mixed varieties, including
Cox's Orange Pippin, Esopus Spitzentburg, Rymer, Adams' Permain,Five Crown or London Pippin, Sturmer Pippin, Twenty Ounce, Bismarck, and Wagner. The last-named is an American dessert apple of excellent quality. In Mr. Prossor's opinion it is one of the best sorts for conditions at Red Hill, and should be tried in other districts.
Two acres are devoted to cherries, the varieties being St. Marguerite(large black, firm berries) and Florence. These sorts appear to be better suited to the locality than other kinds. Only one acre has been planted with pear trees at "Myrtle Grove."
As the result of careful investigation Mr. Prossor has come to the conclusion that, in existing circumstances, there is more money in apples than anything else, and extensions to the orchard will be made with Jonathan and Yates varieties.
The pear trees which give the best results are Keiffer's Hybrid, Packham's Triumph, and Beurre Capiaumont. Mr. Prossor is regarded here as being one of the most expert culturists on the Mornington Peninsula. Whatever differences of opinion may be entertained concerning his methods, the fact remains that his averages are generally the highest in this district. While yields are expected to be light in many of the apple and pear orchards this season, the trees at "Myrtle Grove" are carrying
heavy crops. On an acre of 19-year-old Jonathan apple trees the branches are laden, and an average of 10 cases a tree is expected. The trees are 20 feet apart each way, and there are 100 in the acre. If the yield now developing reaches maturity, the plot will account for 1000 cases of marketable apples. It is doubtful whether land in any other part of Australia is capable of such productivity.
So far there has been no need to feed the orchard with animal refuse or artificial fertilisers, and the necessity for underground drainage has not asserted itself. Mr. Prossor is a strong advocate for effective cultivation, and is of opinion that orchards would be more productive if the surface were kept in finer till throughout the warm months that is now the case in most localities. If more attention, he points out, were devoted to the retention of surface moisture, by the regular use of
cultivating implements during spring and summer, fertility would be maintained without recourse to so much industrial attention as many growers appear to consider imperative.
(RED HILL. January, 15th.
Frankston and Somerville Standard Friday 20 January 1922 p 4 Article.)
*PROSSOR (MYRTLE GROVE.) FROM ABOVE COMMENT.
To obtain the online parish of Balnarring map without having to plough through results for a million church parishes, google BALNARRING, COUNTY OF MORNINGTON.
The Red Hill Village Settlement was on crown allotment 74. H.P.Prosser (no wonder the Frankston Library thought the article was about their Henry, and Cr.Keith Holmes had to fight so hard to get the correct spelling of Prossors Lane) was granted 74E, consisting of 17 acres at the eastern side of the end of Prossors Lane, which I think is now part of Trevor Holmes' cherry farm, but I don't believe that was part of Myrtle Grove.
Henry was also granted crown allotments 74C and 74D which fronted the southern five-ninths of the western side of Prossors Lane, and as they totalled only 75 square metres* less than 40 acres (*smaller than 9 metres x 9 metres, a few car parking bays) those two crown allotments almost certainly constituted Myrtle Grove.
My Balnarring paper map seems to indicate that H.L.Holmes was re-granted Myrtle Grove, now just labelled 74C and consisting of 39 acres 3 roods and 37 perches, on 30-8-1945. The government had probably resumed the farm to, as the year would suggest,provide a soldier settlement farm. By 1919, while his father was still on Myrtle Grove, Norm Prossor had moved onto 43 acres and building,part 71A (a bit more than a third of Alf Head's 116 acre grant south of Stony Creek Rd and adjoining James Rattray's 86 acre 70B (where Pezekian of Carlton had just become the occupant.)
The following is ambiguous and could mean that Holt was formerly of Red Hill or that Henry had left Myrtle Grove.
HOLT.-On June 28, at his home Sunning Hill 228 Gotham road Kew, Joseph Bland Holt, dearly beloved husband of Florence,in his 90th year. (Prlvate cremation.)
HOLT.-A tribute to a sincere friend, from Henry Prossor and family late of Red Hill.
(P.2, Argus,30-6-1942.)
Bryan Ringrose with the mining interests at Ballarat died at the Tibooburra Hospital in NSW on the 30th. December 1903.
I'm attempting to correct the impossible copy now.
So no! not your Red Hill Ringrose
Here's your proof
Fantastic find janilye. I'll have to pass it on to the historical society lady who replied to my email about Bryan. It seems likely that Bryan had moved away by 1885 (see assessments on 18B Kangerong.) This would fit in well with him settling in N.S.W.in about 1888. As the farm was obviously unoccupied and the current owner could not be determined, there might have been an assessment under O (for owner) in 1885/6 and 1886/7. This was standard procedure when a farm was unoccupied and the rate collector was unsure of its ownership. The Mrs Ringrose in George McLear's account book of 1865 (P.91 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA)could have been Bryan's mother. It stands to reason that Bryan did not marry but my assumption that he would have shunned public appearances was way off the mark,given his continued political activity post 1888.
Given his arrival in his new abode in N.S.W. soon after ownership of 18B Kangerong became unclear and the possibility that Mrs Ringrose of 1865 was Bryan's mother, it cannot be concluded that Bryan Ringrose of the Ballarat area and N.S.W. was not also the Red Hill pioneer. Perhaps Bryan's mother died circa 1884-5 and he, having probably been caring for her for some years,was free to experience adventure again.
For those researching Bryan RINGROSE Esq., J.P (miner) he emigrated from Newark, Nottinghamshire, probably around 1853 for he did mention in a speech, he had been in Ballarat since 1853. He was on the Bench in Balranald and Broken Hill from abt. 1890.
I believe he had a relationship with Joseph RINGROSE for they both bought shares in the same mines. Joseph, also a miner, lived in Scarsdale, Lal Lal, Elaine and Geelong
NSW.BDM 3374/1904 RINGROSE BRYAN 73 YRS TIBBOBURRA TIBOOBURRA
STATE RECORDS NSW. Intestate Estate Case Papers
RINGROSE Bryan - 0001
DATEOFORDER. 1904
LOCALITY.Tibooburra
REMARKS Miner Died Tibooburra Hospital Native of England
LOCATION OF FILE[10/27662]
His Auriferous Leases in Milparinka began 29 June 1896 until 26 August 1899
I mean't to add that in 1913 Bryan Ringrose Esq., J. P. (miner) appeared in this list in Adelaide. UNCLAIMED MONEY which is how I knew he was from Newark, Nott. and also unsure of his relationship with Joseph if any.
And in this speech HERE he says he had been a miner since 1853.
I've tagged quite a few years in the life of Bryan in Trove and
I am not able to find any mention of Red Hill in the miner's life
The Star (Ballarat, Vic.) Wednesday 25 November 1863
A serious accident occurred on Monday, at the
Cape Clear Company's chum, Springdallah, caused
by the explosion of a blast, and resulting in very
severe injuries to two men named Ringrose and
Osbaldeston. The men were immediately conveyed
to Whitpaine's Hotel, Scarsdale, and Drs Saenger
and Foster were shortly in attendance. Ringrose
was much injured about the face, his nose being
almost entirely blown away. Osbaldeston had his
left arm fractured, and the thumb, little finger,
and a portion of the second were so lacerated that
amputation had to be resorted to. On Tuesday
morning Ringrose was conveyed to the Ballarat
Hospital.
So he was missing in TROVE from the date of the accident till the speech in Geelong.
HOPEFULLY RED HILL RESIDENTS OF THE 1940'S FOUND IT A BIT EASIER TO CAST A VOTE IN SHIRE ELECTIONS THAN IT WAS IN 1895. Notice that Cr Griffith's name is written with a redundant s.
A petition was then presented by Councillor Griffiths from the residents of Red Hill (centre riding), asking that council assist in getting a polling booth at Red Hill, and stating that they were willing to provide a building free of charge, so as there would be no expense in connection therewith, and that it would be a great convenience,as they at election times, in a great many cases, had to go to either Flinders or Dromana, a distance of over nine or ten miles. (P.2, Mornington Standard,30-5-1895.)
Helen Blakeley's reply to my email about Mrs Wheeler adding a verandah to her store (and post office,i.e.710 White Hill Rd)in 1898.
Yes but the Post Office was some chapters ago so would not have been relevant except as a footnote. It is interesting that Grandpa when he renovated the Post Office for Geo Cussons did not put one on then but then he didn't on the virtually matching three room shack here at Ecclesall*. My sisters saw Ray & Pat Holmes today and it is tremendous that he is writing his history. Sheila Skidmore when she launched her book stated she hoped it would be a beginning re Red Hill. It sure has taken the Holmes & the Blakeleys some time to get around to it.
Look forward to meeting you at the Red Hill Hall - a building I love and have great memories of.
Red Hill pioneering families are putting Dromana's to shame in regard to detailing the district's history. Stephen Lynch's PENINSULA PIONEERS about the Hillis and (Blooming Bob) White families, Helen Blakeley's book about the sawmaker's family, the former Surveyor General's book about the Holmes and Sheehan families and Barry Wright's history of the Wrights' Wildwood are just what Sheila hoped for.
*The name of William Henry Blakeley's Red Hill farm (and a family residence in a suburb of Melbourne) has something in common with those of John Murray Peck's "Lebanon" at Strathmore, Pembroke, the farm of Robert Morris at Bittern North,and Penbank,the property of Edward Jones (Robert's father in law) at Moorooduc west of Jones Corner. All of these names recall the native place of the owner.
Ecclesall
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Ecclesall Ward—which includes the neighbourhoods of Bents Green, Ecclesall, Greystones, Millhouses, and Ringinglow—is one of the 28 electoral wards in City of Sheffield, England.
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During the 19th century, Sheffield gained an international reputation for steel
AND THAT'S WHAT SAWS ARE MADE FROM!
As much as my plethora of new and resumed journal would seem to indicate otherwise, I haven't forgotten about the Red Hill reunion. This morning,in about five hours, I'll be ringing the six former residents whose contact details Marg. Connell sent me. Marion Walker,Peter Trewin's sister,Marion Walker, will be telling her former Red Hill schoolmates who meet monthly.
Hi xxx,
Thanks for the email re the back to.
Have spent the last hour reading what you sent.
Wow you must spend all your time researching,
Need to re read it again but have found lots of mentions or my family-Trewins and McIlroys.
Also lots of families l remember.
I have forwarded it to my brother Peter Trewin and cousin Eleanor Chillcot [nee White]
Congratulations on a wonderful job and look forward to reading your completed journal after the back to.
Marion Walker [nee Trewin]
Good guess on your part to figure out who l was.
I was unsuccessfully trying to find the birth notice of Tess Crowe's dad,Charles Crow (not a typo!)in Dromana when I saw Safety Beach mentioned. They say the greatest thing a human being can do is wonder and I wondered how early that locality name was used.That's how I found this. Main Ridge was historically linked to Red Hill and still is through the Red Hill Lions Club's HILL 'N' RIDGE and the consolidated school.
TAYLOR—On the 21st April, at Safety Beach, Dromana, Victoria, Rev. William H. Taylor, dearly loved husband of Esther, and loving father of Rev. F. W. Taylor (Numurkah),Will H. Taylor (450 Little Collins-street, Melbourne), Win (Mrs. W. G.Roberts, Main Ridge), Rene (Mrs.A. McCutcheon, Cavendish), and Doris (deceased). At rest.(P.1, Examiner, Launceston,3-5-1935.)
Now I'm wondering why this notice was in a Tassie newspaper and how Win Taylor came to meet W.G.Roberts of Main Ridge.
TAYLOR/ ROBERTS/ BEAN.
Reverend Taylor (see previous comment) had probably been at Safety Beach for at least seven years and was involved with the Mornington Peninsula Development League, apparently handling the sale of badges to raise funds for improvements on Arthurs Seat.
PENINSULA DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE MEETING AT HASTINGS.
Frankston and Somerville Standard (Vic. : 1921 - 1939) Friday 16 November 1928 p 2 Article.
BEAUTIFUL MARINE DRIVE.
Rev. Taylor said how favorably impressed Mr. Clapp was with Marine Drive when he visited Mornington recently. Mr. Clapp was most anxious to see the road trafficable: Rev. Taylor said the best thanks of the league were due to Mr. Jackson for his efforts in having Marine Drive attended to in Flinders shire portion.
I was thinking Rev. Taylor might have been the Presbyterian minister at Dromana in the 1890's until I found this.
News of the Churches. MORNINGTON AND DROMANA CIRCUIT
Spectator and Methodist Chronicle (Melbourne, Vic. : 1914 - 1918) Wednesday 18 April 1917 p 439 Article
News of the Churches.
MORNINGTON AND DROMANA CIRCUIT (extract)
Mr Roberts was appointed the Sunday School visitor. Rev. W. H. Taylor reported that he had visited most of the Sunday Schools in the interest of the Young Australia Temperance League, and that nearly all the scholars had signed the pledge. The resignation of Mr.Trewin, the Junior Circuit Steward, on account of ill health, was accepted, and Mr. Counter was appointed in his place.
IT'S A SMALL WORLD! You can say that again! Okay, IT'S A SMALL WORLD!
This has nothing to do with Red Hill but after all the Red Hill Lions Club does publish HILL 'N' RIDGE and the Roberts family pioneered Main Ridge decades before it had that name.
I wouldn't mind betting that the Rev.W.H.Taylor was living in the house on the north west corner of Seaview and Victoria St, Safety Beach at the time of his death in 1935. This house was the homestead of Mr Bean,one time president of the R.A.C.V., who organised the R.A.C.V.speed trials at Safety Beach, and was probably introduced to Spencer Jackson by Rev.W.H.Taylor himself. (See my journals about SAFETY BEACH and SPENCER JACKSON AND THE BUS BAN for sources.)
GOLDEN WEDDING.
TAYLOR-BEAN-On the 2nd April, 1885, at the residence of the bride's parents "Sutton"
Haines street, North Melbourne, by the Rev J W Crisp, assisted by the Rev.W.H. Taylor, brother of the bridegroom Frank E Taylor, youngest son of Mr and Mrs.J.E. Taylor,North Melbourne to Louisa, eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs J.Bean. (Present Address, 20 Grace St, Moonee Ponds.)
I was so excited at competing a jigsaw puzzle that I forgot to give the source for the golden wedding notice:
(Family Notices,The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 2 April 1935 p 1.)
The comments have been put into a new journal (REV.WILLIAM H.TAYLOR'S EASY JIGSAW PUZZLE)so that TAYLOR,ROBERTS and BEAN descendants will be more likely to find the information.
I also meant to ask you to check the list of confirmed Back To attendees at the very end of the journal. Let me know if your name shouldn't be there (I relied on my memory of emails received because I'm just too exhausted to check them), and please let me know of any names that should be there.
EMAIL TO ME TODAY.
I saw this reunion advertised in the Herald Sun on Feb. 1st. My husband's family came from Red Hill. His father was Harry MILLINGTON (3.3.1917 - 20.6.1976). I believe Harry played football for Red Hill, before the 2nd World War. Harry had an older brother, Frank, their parents were William Arthur MILLINGTON and Emily May GUNSTONE.
William MILLINGTON was a blacksmith in Red Hill. After William passed away Emily married Reginald GURR. We never knew any members of the family and I have been compiling the family tree. I wondered if there would be anyone attending on that day who knew the MILLINGTONS, or maybe even yourself. We don't have any photos - maybe there would be old football photos or some such. If you know of anyone who could help me, could you please pass on my name and email address. I will also include my phone number. I would love to hear from anyone who could help me in my research. My husband's name is Lindsay.
Sybil Cumming has booked her flight and will be down with her hubby for three days so I hope her friends will make time to meet her even if they can't come to the reunion.She sent me an attachment provided by Graeme Saunders which struck me like a bolt of lightning.
WHO'S HEARD ABOUT THIS? IT'S NEVER BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE.
• There was also a rail line from the Dromana Pier to Red Hill and it came up Eden’s* cutting opposite the Red Hill Consolidated School. (*Eaton's)
• The rails were made of timber and the rail trucks were pulled up the line by Bullock teams carting freight for Red Hill and Main Ridge.
FROM RAE.
With only a week to go (let's hope it is a day like today), I was wondering how things, numbers, etc are going? Is there anything you would like me to do, eg. nametags? Do you require us to bring a plate, dips & bikkies, etc?
Have done my best to advertise the day, but am not sure how many it has reached.
Looking forward to the day. It is my sisters and my intention to catch up in the morning at Red Hill - maybe leave cars at the Hall in Mechanics Road, and go for a site seeing tour around the place and then have a picnic lunch.
MY REPLY.
My wife's making some sandwiches but it would be handy if some could bring a plate, which many may do out of 'old-time" habit anyway. I'll supply coffee, tea, sugar and both milks. I'd appreciate name tags if you could supply them. Could you write tags for those listed at the end of the journal and I'll write tags for the others as they arrive. Thanks for your efforts re publicity.
Look forward to meeting you.
Bev. Laurissen, a long-time Red Hill resident and member of the Dromana Historical Society will be at the reunion and will bring the Society's publications such as books and a DVD made for the recent Postcards Exhibition etc about Red Hill for those who would like to buy same. There are only 18 copies left from the second printing of Sheila Skidmore's THE RED HILL so this may be your last opportunity to buy a copy.
Bev.Laurissen told me that Webb St (Melway 190 H9,10)used to be known as Hall's Road and she asked me if I knew anything about the reason for the new name.
Among the visitors to Red Hill is the wife and child of Commodore Webb, R.N., who is staying with her brother-in-law, Mr. C. Webb. Commodore Webb is at present stationed
at Singapore and Mrs. Webb hopes soon to be joining him there.
(P.6, Standard, Frankston,7-2-1946.)
An interesting ceremony was held in the Church of Christ Hall on Friday night, when two of the "cubs" became members of the Red Hill Scout troop. The boys, Peter Webb
and Malcolm Andrew, were given their farewell message by Akala, the cub leader, Mrs. J. Holmes. The boys shook hands with their mates,and then were introduced to the
Scout master, Mr. B. Prosser (sic). Each cub was given a word of encouragement, and then initiated into the rules of the Scouts, and then given his place under the patrol leader.
Opportunity was also taken to present Mrs. Holmes with, a gift of nut-cracker and stand as a token of appreciation for her long work among the cubs. Mrs. Holmes is resigning and Mr.Ron. Holmes is to take the leadership of the cubs.
(P.6, Standard, 14-4-1946.)
Trying to find the people after whom the road was initially named was a tad more difficult,the surname being the same as the type of public building in which the BACK TO RED HILL will be held. Hall brothers were involved in the first Red Hill Annual Show held in the cool stores near the station. Remarkably Prossor had the right spelling but the correspondent did the usual with Higgens and made a real mess of Cleine.
The voluntary helpers were as follows:- Mesdames K. Clime (special mention), A. Haig, G. Higgins, R. Holland, A. Smith, H. Prossor, V. Holmes,and Messrs. E. Bowring R. Holland, K.Clime, R. Holmes, A. Smith, Hall Bros., E. Haig, G. Wilson, G.Higgins, E. Callaway (engineer for store).
(P.3, Frankston and Somerville Standard, 7-4-1922.)
When I did my initial rates transcriptions in 2010, I only recorded assessments in Wannaeue and Kangerong parishes but when I started on Red Hill,I recorded ratepayers in the parish of Balnarring in what could be described as Red Hill South.
In 1919, Herbert Alfred Hall of Middle Brighton was assessed on 20 acres and building ,74B Balnarring. This was the Village Settlement grant of Charles Thiele who'd been killed on Eatons Cutting Rd,the second crown allotment on the west side of Prossors Lane with a frontage of 215 metres starting 137 metres south of Arthurs Seat Rd.
Webb St is on 76A and 76B,granted to William Bayne. In 1919 the 208 acres were occupied (and probably owned) by Mrs Elizabeth Barrett of "Arran" in Mornington. In the boom between the war and the depression, this land was probably subdivided. As in the case of Village Settlement pioneers such as the Nash and Prossor families, Herbert Alfred Hall probably took advantage of these subdivisions to acquire larger parcels of land and may have bought the portion of 76AB between Webb St and Stony Creek.
THE BIG DAY HAS COME AND GONE. Thanks to the people who made unrequested donations to cover the hall hire. Every cent of the small hall hire was repaid in full by the pleasure of meeting such wonderful people. With so many members of the Dromana Historical Society getting past the stage where they can continue their frenetic efforts to raise funds through cake stalls etc, I hope you are happy to see your donations help to keep the historical society going,instead of folding as Rosebud's did. Without the D.H.S., yesterday's reunion may never have happened. Two members,indeed stalwarts, of the D.H.S.,Thelma Littlejohn and Keith Holmes were responsible for my historical focus extending to Red Hill.
A bit of feedback from the reunion.
FROM JILL PHILLIPS WHO WRITES HISTORY CORNER IN "HILL'N' RIDGE.
According to Bev Laurissen , there was about 80 in attendance at the Back to Red Hill on Sunday. Keith Holmes would have been in his element. Well done XXX.
I believe the tongues were wagging and Bev is still trying to work out names and the connections of some folk .I am sure the function produced some great resource material and photos in addition to other submissions already - ideal for your booklet , the Dromana Historical Society and perhaps Hill’n’Ridge.
Put me on the booklet list please
Best wishes Jill
FROM MERLE KEANE (NEE MAY.)
Hello XXX, Thank you for organizing the back to. I really enjoyed catching up with long ago friends, the best day for a long time. I forgot to give my details when I left . I would love to come again if another is going to be arranged in the future. I was Merle May. I used to live in Government Road , now called Baileau Road. What a lot of memories came back to life. Thank you again. Regards Merle.
FROM HELEN BLAKELEY.
XXX you conducted that get-together with great cleverness. Yes we had to circle around and find names we were familiar with.It was great to catch up with our former neighbour Barry Wright. The Wright's were and are a very bright family.
Another old neighbour, Trewin, was also there. And so it went on.....
Really enjoyed Norma Ockerby's tales of her childhood.
Now XXX we forgot to give you a donation to defray costs. Where can I send it to?
Thanks again
ME TO HELEN.
A donation to the Dromana Historical Society would be fine.It didn't really cost me much and what it did cost was well-worth it because of the pleasure I derived from talking to the people there. The bloke that won his wife because of the bet about taking a girl home from the dance, Bruce Moser, was a Rosebud lad living at The Thicket in Boneo Rd, Rosebud, who knew all about the helicopter being built at the garage at Rosebud West where the Foreshore Cafe now stands. He didn't know about my journal, prompted by one of his relatives, Shah. (link below.)
MOSER/ROGERS/MUNDAY MEMORIES OF ROSEBUD, VIC., AUST.
I'm sure Bev Laurissen or Jean Rotherham would be happy to take care of your donation until they can pass it on to the treasurer, Janet Ecclestone, at the next committee meeting or opportunity.
I was quite surprised that people wanted to have the telling tales session because the noise level never showed any sign of diminishing until I made my saucepan and glass jar racket. It was amazing how quickly 2 p.m. became 10 to 4 without any sign of the natives getting restless.
It was great to meet you and your sisters.
HELEN.
And likewise to meet you. Thanks xxx we shall ensure we get our donation to the Droman Historical Society. But oh Ray we were all so aged and yesterday seems five minutes ago
Thanks again and may I assay a hug.
Helen Blakeley
NOW, JUST A REPLAY OF HOW THE REUNION CAME ABOUT.
Private Messages for itellya
Subject: Red Hill, 1945-1955
To: itellya
From: Raisey19
Date: 2014-10-11 06:57:10
Hi Itellya, A few weeks ago I wrote a post regarding my family in Red Hill, Mornington Peninsula, and on further investigation I realize that you seem to know just about all there is to know about this great place. I will copy my query and an answer from Janilye. I would greatly appreciate it if you could advise me where to find out more about Red Hill during the time just after WWll. Red Hill -1940-1955
Query by RaeLh Favorite
And in the week before the Do.
ME TO RAE.
A great idea re the name tags! Quite a few others have contacted me re details but have not confirmed that they'll be attending so we'll write their name tags if and when they turn up. Write tags for those named below and make a total of 50 tags which should be enough.
Regards, XXX.
P.S.I'll check emails to see if there are any others who indicated they'd attend but weren't added to the list and ring Keith or Trevor Holmes to see if any of their clan are coming. Will inform you of any additions.
HIGHLIGHT OF THE TELLING TALE SEGMENT.
When Sybil Cumming answered a question that someone had asked. Before the telling tales session people were tearing around asking, "Has anyone seen Sybil?" Sybil had emailed me when she'd booked her flight from Cairns.
Well, I'm going to be there! With my husband Roger, too. We have now booked our airfares. Unfortunately we will only have time to stay in the area (Mt Martha) for three nights, so might not be able to catch up with my Cleine cousins, who seem to be as equally busy.
Graeme Saunders sent me some memories when I contacted him - first attachment.
I have written a few more pages of my reminiscences which I will send along as soon as my sister, Kay has had a look at them.
Starting to look forward to the reunion, especially now that I see my 'bestie' from primary school - Lorraine Lester is going to be there.
But nobody had seen Sybil! Probably couldn't take off because of the cyclone was the sad conclusion. Happily,their plane had taken off just in time and Sybil must have caught up with a Cleine or two before arriving as I started the unanimously-requested telling tales session.
A BIG THANK YOU TO RAE FOR CAUSING THE REUNION,CONTACTING SYBIL ETC, HELPING WITH PUBLICITY, REIGNITING MY ENTHUSIASM WHEN ALMOST NON-EXISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION HAD DESTROYED IT, KEEPING ME FOCUSSED WHEN ABOUT FOUR CONCURRENT JOURNALS WERE LEADING ME ASTRAY, AND PREPARING NAME TAGS.
Any contributions already posted here will be copied to the new journal(and booklet): MEMORIES OF RED HILL,POST 1940.
Please send any further contributions to the email address provided on my information sheet or mail to my address if you don't have the internet. (As soon as possible please, if you want your contribution to be included in the booklet which will include photographs.) The booklet will be finished by the end of April.
I can't scan photos so they need to be on a word document attached to an email to me. Please name as many people as possible in photos,using question marks for those you don't know, and also name the location/event at which the photo was taken. If people had nicknames, e.g.Phillip(Phip) Cleine,please indicate it in brackets as shown.
For those who live within about 2 hours of Dromana, the booklet may be made available at the Dromana museum for a $2 donation to the historical society(or more if you're feeling generous.) There will be an announcement in comments under the new journal when the booklet is ready. *Phone me near the end of April if you're outside the 2 hour commuting distance so we can arrange postage and make sure you don't miss out on a copy.(*Private message itellya through family tree circles if you don't have my number.)
Who's quicker,Bev Laurissen or Australia Post? The reunion was on Sunday and by noon today (Tuesday), Bev's extensive letter was in my letter box. As part of it relates to this journal regarding the 1902 farmers around Red Hill (Balnarring, Bittern, Flinders),it will be posted here rather than in the Memories journal.
John A. Darley signed the 1861 petition that is reproduced on page 132 of Colin McLear's A DREAMTIME OF DROMANA. He was almost certainly leasing land on Jamieson's Special Survey between Dromana and Moorooduc. Like other Survey residents, Charles Graves and Sarah Wilson, the Darley family moved to the area near Flinders.
Bev. has included information about the Darleys from research by Linda Berndt of the Rye Historical Society.
Jonathon Saville Darley married Sarah Martin in 1864 (Reg. 4469.) It was Sarah's second marriage. John is credited with the lime kiln known as Darley's near St Andrews. (Itellya- This would have been in the parish of Fingal where Thomas Ormiston Martin had section 25, near the boundary with the parish of Flinders, which was granted to his executors on 1-2-1892.)
In 1871, John was assessed on 544 acres and a three roomed house at Fingal. He left in 1875,replaced by J. Wallace. (Itellya- There is no crown allotment of 544 acres but John's land would have been on Thomas Monahan's 886 acres, now the St Andrews streets and golf courses.)
In 1876, John was recorded as a Grazier occupying 337 acres in (the parish of) Flinders. By 1880 he owned 536 acres. (Location would be described in the journal.)
In 1864, John married Sarah Martin, nee Neale. Her mother during the 1850's purchased Clondrisse; the mother during three marriages invested heavily in real estate. (I had presumed that John's wife was T.O.Martin's daughter but it would seem she was the widow of T.O.'s son which would explain E.Riley, A. McLellan and J.Crichton being T.O.'s executors.)
John and Sarah's home in Flinders was "The Rest" and it remained in the ownership of descendants for several generations, for example, Falkinghams and Sir John Holland. Their son, William Edwin married Jane Wilson,daughter of George Wilson (son of Sarah Wilson,the Survey pioneer)and Mary Jane Connell (of a Survey/ Moorooduc pioneering family.)
The rest of Bev's letter will be in the MEMORIES OF RED HILL journal.