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Stephen PILCHER, Wychling Kent to Wellington NZ 1840

Journal by ngairedith

Stephen Pilcher (1794-1865) was born in Wychling, Kent to Richard Pilcher & Annie 'Alice' Bone
* Stephen married Ann McPharlane (1790-1834) in Wychling in 1818

children of Stephen & Annie born in Kent
... 1 1818 - 1866 Bertha, aka Lucy, Pilcher
Bertha did not leave for NZ with her father in 1840. It appears it was about then that she married, in Kent, to Henry William Jones (1817-1892). They arrived into Perth, Australia on the 'William Jardine' 1 Aug 1852, with 6 children under 12 (added here as found). Henry was an assistant Warder, previously serving in the dreaded Millbank Prison
NOTE The 'William Jardine' left Plymouth on 3 May 1852 bound for the Swan River Colony. She carried the seventh of 37 shipments of male convicts destined for Western Australia. The voyage took 88 days and the 'William Jardine' arrived in Fremantle on 1 Aug 1852 with 102 passengers and 212 convicts. Of the 102 passengers, 95 were pensioner guards and their families, the number being made up of 29 pensioner guards, 23 wives, 19 sons and 24 daughters. The other 7 passengers have not been accounted for but were possibly cabin passengers or regular soldiers.
Bertha died 11 May 1866 aged 48 in Victoria and was buried at White Hills Cemetery close to Bendigo Creek. This may explain why her brother Stephen went to Victoria (he married there 1858)
their known children, born in Kent
1.1 1841 - 1928 Mary Ann Jones
* Mary married in 1861 in Collingwood, Victoria to Edwin Thomas Quick Frost (-1917)
the children of Mary & Edwin, born Sandhurst
1.2.1 1862 - 1863 Caroline Frost
1.2.2 1864 - 1923 Frederick Robert Frost
* Frederick married Eliza Catherine Organ in 1886
1.2.3 1866 - 1944 Henry 'Charles' Frost (death not verified)
1.2.4 1868 - 1949 Bertha Ann Frost
* Bertha married Alexander Ness in 1889
1.2.5 1870 - Caroline Mary Ann Frost
* Caroline married William McPherson in 1890
1.2.6 1872 - 1877 Ruth Mary Ann Frost
1.2.7 1873 - 1875 Edwin William Frost
1.2.8 1876 - William Edwin Frost
1.2.9 1879 - 1942 Alice Martha Frost
* Alice married Clarence James Dallimore in 1897
1.2.10 1882 - 1960 Ellen Mabel Frost
* Ellen married Albert Clack Short in 1901
Mary Ann died in Melbourne. Her children mentioned in this death notice
The Age, 24 Feb 1923
FROST — On the 20th February, at Melbourne Hospital, Frederick Robert, of 655 Mount Alexander-road, the dearly beloved husband of Eliza, and loving son of Mary Ann Frost; loving brother of Charlie, William, Bertha (Mrs Ness), Annie (Mrs W. M. McPherson), Alice (Mrs Dallimore), Nellie (Mrs Short); aged 58 years
* Mary Ann's death shows children's whereabouts
The Age, 29 Dec 1928
FROST - On the 26th December, at Melbourne, Mary Ann, relict of the late Edwin Frost, eldest daughter of the late W. H. Jones, produce merchant, Bendigo, loving mother of Frederick (deceased), Charles (Tasmania), Bertha (Mrs Ness), Annie (Mrs McPherson), William (W.A.), Alice (Mrs Dallimore), Ellen (Mrs Short), aged 88½ years. Private interment. So he gives His beloved sleep.
* Mary Ann's death details record her father as William Henry Jones & mother as Lucy Pilcher
1.2 1846 - 1917 William Robert Jones - died Melbourne

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... 2 1820 - 1891 George Pilcher
* George emigrated to NZ in April 1840 on the BOLTON, 4 months before his father
* George married Eleanor 'Helen' Harris (1820-1882) in 1842 in Wellington.
the 12 children of George & Eleanor
2.1 1844 - 1902 George Pilcher
* George married Sarah Nora Sullivan in Te Aute 1869
2.2 1845 - 1940 Mary Ann Pikcher
* Mary married Frederick Thomas Ulph in 1863
Taranaki Herald, 6 April 1870
The wife of Frederick Ulph, not having heard any tidings of him for nearly four years and having been informed that his friends do not know where he is, intends, if she does not hear from him at the expiration of two months from this date, to get married again - Mary Ann Ulph
* Mary next married married Samuel Davis Jarvis in 1871
2.3 1846 - 1926 William John Pilcher
* William married Mary Lucy Mason in Waikari, Canterbury 1877
2.4 1848 - 1931 James Alexander
* James married Elizabeth Harris in 1922
2.5 1950 - 1906 Alfred Pilcher
* Alfred married Emily 'Emma' Roberts in 1879
2.6 1852 - 1940 Nathaniel Pilcher
* Nathaniel married Elizabeth Withyman in 1874
2.7 1853 - 1871 Robert Pilcher
* Robert died aged 16
2.8 1855 - 1938 Stephen Pilcher
* Stephen married Janet Percy in Hamilton in 1888
2.9 1856 - 1930 Charlotte Ellen Pilcher
* Charlotte married Edward Pemberton in 1875
2.10 1858 - 1866 Alice Pilcher (twin)
* Alice died aged 8 in Napier
2.11 1858 - 1947 Frederick Pilcher (twin)
* Frederick married Annie Hitchings in 1925
2.12 1862 - 1930 Caroline Matilda Pilcher
* Caroline married James Smith Andrew in Havelock North 1881
* George & Eleanor died in Hawkes Bay

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... 3 1823 - ? Susan Pilcher
* Susan married George Rowland Cleggett (1820-) in 1844. They 'disappeared' from NZ by 1847
* Susan & George may have died in South Australia - researching

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... 4 1826 - 1830 Ann Pilcher
* Ann died aged 13 in Hollingbourne, Kent, England

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... 5 1829 - 1895 John George Pilcher
* John married Ellen Peck (1844-1906) in Lower Hutt in 1862 & had 13 children
* 3 of the children married SWAIN siblings, children of Henry SWAIN & Mary Elizabeth ROE
5.1 1864 - 1940 John Pilcher
* John married Ellen Elliott in Wellington 1891
5.2 1866 - 1944 William Pilcher
* William married Emily Ellen Swain in Lower Hutt 1890
5.3 1868 - 1954 Elizabeth Pilcher
* Elizabeth married George Henry Hodgetts (1863-1955) in 1913
5.4 1869 - 1935 Annie Pilcher
* Annie married Joseph Swain in Wellington 1891
5.5 1871 - 1892 Daniel Pilcher
* Daniel died aged 16 months
5.6 1873 - 1961 Emily Pilcher
* Emily married Walter William Mudgway in 1897
5.7 1874 - 1926 Caroline Pilcher
* Caroline married Samuel Swain in 1892
5.8 1876 - 1946 George Pilcher
* no spouse found
5.9 1879 - 1952 Frances Pilcher
* Frances married Edward Thomas Gilbert in 1900 in Lower Hutt
5.10 1881 - 1967 Henry Pilcher
* Henry married Sarah Jane Smith in Wellington 1903
5.11 1883 - 1884 Alfred David Pilcher
* Alfred died aged 14 months
5.12 1885 - 1957 Ellen Pilcher
* Ellen married Roy Watkins in 1906
5.13 1888 - 1965 Charles Frederick Pilcher
* Charles married Emily Caroline 'Emmie' England in 1911

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... 6 1832 - 1929 Stephen Pilcher
* Stephen married Mary Jane Rowe in Victoria, Australia in 1858 & had 12 children near Bendigo.
the children of Stephen & Mary
6.1 1859 - 1902 George Pilcher
* George married Annie Julia Mudge in July 1888
6.2 1861 - 1929 William Thomas Pilcher
* William married Jane Kellow in Jan 1888
6.3 1862 - 1941 Elizabeth Ann Pilcher
* Elizabeth married Robert Lewis in July 1888 (same day as brother George)
6.4 1864 - 1955 Emma Pilcher
* Emma married Walter Nathaniel Valentine in 1888. Son of Emily Hook & Nathaniel Valentine & grandson of Bennett Mather Hook, who was also Emma's grandmother
6.5 1866 - 1935 Selina Pilcher
* Selina married Molesworth Jeffery in 1893, a brother of Walter Jeffrey, who married Selina's sister Ellen
6.6 1868 - 1932 Alfred Pilcher
* Alfred married Jane Peatling in 1897. One of their sons, Alfred Stephen Pilcher married Irene Pilcher, a daughter of Alfred's brother, Stephen John Pilcher (see 6.9)
6.7 1871 - 1938 Ellen Matilda Pilcher
* Ellen married Walter Jeffrey in 1899, a brother of Molesworth Jeffery, who married Ellen's sister Selina
6.8 1873 - 1933 Mary Jane Pilcher
* Mary married John Young in 1901
6.9 1877 - 1952 Stephen John Pilcher
* Stephen married Mary Ellen Steen in 1906 (see 6.6)
6.101878 - 1948 Albert Ambrose Pilcher
* Albert married Frances Steen in 1907, a brother of Mary Ellen Steen who married Albert's brother Stephen
6.11 1881 - 1923 Frederick Arthur Pilcher
* Frederick married Alice Maud Newcombe in 1910
6.12 1884 - 1966 Florence Rachel Pilcher
* Frances married Donald Chisholm in 1921
* birthdays in Mary & Stephen's house would have been hectic, they were:
* 8 Feb
5 weeks later - 19 March
10 days later - 29 March
17 weeks later - 29 July
9 days later - 7 Aug
next day - 8 Aug
9 weeks later - 11 Oct
6 days later - 17 Oct
6 days later - 23 Oct
5 days later - 28 Oct
7 weeks later - 14 Dec
7 days later - 21 Dec

Ann Pilcher died 3 years after the birth of Stephen
Five years after Ann died and 4 months after son George, Stephen Pilcher emigrated to New Zealand with 3 children, Susan 17, Stephen 11, and John 8, arriving on the COROMANDEL in August 1840, a journey of 8 months as they stopped in Sydney for some time. He met his second wife Bennett Hook, on the ship, she was a widow, travelling with her 3 children.
A daughter to Stephen and Bennett
... 7 1840 - 1854 Sarah Annis Pilcher was conceived during the voyage and born 2 months after arrival in Wellington. Sarah died 2 Oct 1854, aged 14, drowned in a boating accident with her 8 year old brother Samuel

Two years later, on 1 July 1844, Stephen married Bennett Mather Hook (1809-1865) in Wellington
Bennett's 3 children were
* 1827 - 1921 Rachael Hook
* Rachael married James Taylor
* 1834 - 1875 Emily Hook
* Emily married Nathaniel Valentine
* 1835 - 1928 Friend Hook
* Friend married Martha Morgan

Stephen and Bennett had another 6 children in the Wellington area:
... 8 1843 - 1893 Annie Reynolds Pilcher
* Annie married William Henry Poad (1843-1889) 9 Sep 1865 in Lower Hutt & had 10 known children. They died in Feilding
the children of Annie & William
8.1 1866 - 1956 William Henry Poad
* William married Jean Fraser in 1891
8.2 1868 - 1947 Alice Isabel Poad
* Alice married Hart Udy (1857-1934) in 1891. Hart was a NZ All Black, playing as a member in the 1884 side to Australia. His club was the Greytown Club which was in the Wellington Union area (he had finished his career before Wairarapa Union began). He was a Wellington selector during 1884-85
8.3 1879 - 1923 Thomas Owen Poad
* Thomas married Ellen Cordelia James in 1896
8.4 1872 - 1962 Annie Runnalls Poad
* Annie married Sidney Septimus Ratliff in 1894
8.5 1875 - 1966 Emily Poad
* Emily married Ernest Goutnour Rice in 1905
8.6 1877 - 1969 Amelia May Poad
* Amelia married George Arthur Jenness in 1900
8.7 1879 - 1955 Herbert John Poad
* Herbert married Kathleen Evans (1879-1924) in 1903
* Herbert next married Mary Jane Carson in 1926
8.8 1881 - 1968 Burnett Fletcher Poad
* Burnett married Elizabeth Hill (1877-1927) in 1915
* Burnett next married Annie Swankie in 1929
8.9 1884 - 1960 Katie Maud Poad
* Katie married Edward John Haigh in 1909
8.10 1886 - 1957 Walter Nathaniel Poad
* Walter married Mary Alice Bryan

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... 9 1846 - 1854 Samuel Pilcher
* Samuel died 2 Oct 1854, aged 8, drowned in a boating accident with his 14 year old sister Sarah

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... 10 1848 - 1941 Elizabeth Pilcher
* Elizabeth married Francis Clarence Greer (1838-1917) 24 April 1866 in Wellington & had 14 children. Francis died in Tawa, Elizabeth died in Otaki
the children of Elizabeth & Francis
10.1 1866 - 1888 Eliza Isabella 'Bella' Greer
* Bella died aged 21 in Wellington
10.2 1867 - 1945 Francis Herbert Greer
* Francis married Madeline Amor Davis in 1897
10.3 1868 - 1937 Janet Agnes Greer
* Janet married William John Lammerton Styles in 1893
10.4 1871 - 1874 Agnes Elizabeth Greer
* Agnes died aged 3
10.5 1873(Jan) - 1963 Arthur Oswald Greer
* Arthur married Mabel 'Dolly' Robinson in 1904
10.6 1873(Nov) - 1958 Adeline Helena 'Ada' Greer
* Adeline married Alfred William Whitehouse in 1898
10.7 1877 - 1951 Samuel Johnston Greer
* Samuel married Margaret Cornelia Amyes in Petone 1920
10.8 1879 - 1948 Donald Lowery Greer
* Donald married Mabel Alice Reid in 1913
10.9 1881 - 1945 Ernest Greer
* Ernest married Elizabeth Lilian Anderson in 1913
10.10 1882 - 1953 Charles Edward Greer
* Charles married Annie Stanley in 1910
10.11 1883 - 1979 Eustace Ernest Greer
* Eustace married Lenora Mexted in 1912
10.12 1885 - 1965 Gerald Randolph Greer
* Gerald married Olive Oliver in 1909
10.13 1888 - 1964 Oscar Randall Greer
* Oscar married Nora Eliza Proebstel in 1918
10.14 1891 - 1979 Irene Constance Greer
* Irene married Arthur Wilson in 1919

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... 11 1851 - 1933 Edward Pilcher
* Edward married Rose Churcher in Feilding in 1876 and had 12 children
the children of Edward & Rose
11.1 1878 - 1949 William George Edward Pilcher
* William married Deborah Louisa Robinson, xmas day 1901
11.2 1880 - 1962 John Albert Reece Pilcher
* John married Flora Tappin in 1912
11.31882 - 1973 Elizabeth Bennett Pilcher
* Elizabeth married James Alfred Robinson in 1904
11.41884 - 1918 Harriet Lily Pilcher
* Harriett married John Stanton Guilford in 1905
11.5 1886 - 1970 Margaret Florence Pilcher
Margaret married Robert William Binnie Evans in 1904
11.6 1888 - 1918 Charles Stephen Pilcher
* Charles married Hazel Dorothy Goodman 12 Jan 1916. He was killed in action 26 March 1918 at Somme, France. Hazel next married James McKay in 1919
11.7 1890 - 1970 Olive Pilcher
* Olive married Usher Beere Miles in 1912
11.8 1892 - 1962 Myrtle Pilcher
* Myrtle married Albert Stanley Chamberlain in 1913
11.9 1894 - 1962 George Pilcher
* George married Lydia May Sandbrook in 1922
11.10 1896 - 2003 Ivy Winifred Pilcher
* Ivy married John Murdoch McKenzie (1892-1916) in 1915. John was died of his wounds in France 19 Oct 1916. Ivy gave birth to their son, John Murdoch Thomas McKenzie, 11 weeks later
* Ivy next married John Gardner Speirs in 1919
11.11 1897 - 1962 Alberta Isabel Pilcher
* Alberta married Frederick Edmund Mills in 1920
11.12 1899 - 1899 Kenneth Pilcher
* Kenneth died aged 10 months in Makino

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... 12 1853 - 1943 Harriet Pilcher
* Harriet married Charles Edgar Hollard (1849-1817) 21 June 1872 in Wellington & had 3 known children. They died in Lower Hutt and buried Taita
the children of Harriet & Charles
12.1 1880 - 1950 Charles Edgar Hollard
* Charles married Leila Ada Knight in 1902
12.2 1884 - 1967 Myrtle Harriet Hollard
* Myrtle married Edward Johnson in 1904
12.3 Ivy Ella Holalrd
* Ivy married Hugh Fraser Ayson in 1906

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... 13 1855 - 1929 Caroline 'Carrie' Pilcher
* Caroline married George Satherley 9 April 1877 in Sanson & had 9 children, including a set of twins. They died in Foxton
the children of Caroline & George
13.1 1878 - 1968 Edith Maud Satherley
* Edith married Gilbert John Perreau in 1903
13.2 1880 - 1962 Harry William Satherley
* Harry married Sarah Jane Cooke in 1906
13.3 1884 - 1978 Agnes Mary Satherley
* Agnes married William Joseph Fullam in 1905
13.4 1887 - 1976 (twin) Clifton Walter Satherley
* Clifton married Jennie Hutchinson in 1912
13.5 1887 - 1984 Alice Kate (twin) Satherley
* Alice married George Henry King in 1915
13.6 1891 - 1986 Mary Myrtle Satherley
* Mary married Benjamin Taui Woods in 1919
13.7 1893 - 1974 Annie Ivy Satherley
* Annie married Alfred Augustus Cook in 1912
13.8 1896 - 1957 Caroline Polly Satherley
* Caroline married David John Hutchinson in 1931
13.9 1897 - 1982 Margaret May 'Maggie' Satherley
* Maggie married Edward John Colson in 1915

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by rosergent on 2016-04-12 20:17:06

This is my grandparents and great grandparents
Tawa Pilchers. There is a John George Frederick Pilcher (Jack) B-30/09/1891 D-11/04/1972 and on the 20/10/1921 married Lillian May Booth. Lillian actually happens to be my mothers side and on our Booth family tree :)
There son was John William Pilcher (Jack) B-19/05/1925 and married on the 12/03/1947 to Lola Marjorie McBean. These are my grandparents they then had a son John Wayne Pilcher who married my mum Diane Davies (whos mum was a Booth)

by rosergent on 2016-04-12 21:43:01

Lilian Booth is actually my Great Aunt on my mums side and she went on to marry John who is my Great Grandfather and her my Great Grandmother :)

by CvanderRee on 2018-02-11 00:42:23

I think I'm related to your family tree:
My ggg grandmother was Bertha (or Lucy or Martha) Pilcher. According to the Victoria BD&M, she died in 1866 (ref. 6495), aged 48. She was born in Kent, England to Stephe Pilcher and unknown.
Sorry about the names but I assumed 'Stephe' is actually Stephen and on my gg grandparent's marriage certificate it lists Bertha Pilcher, but my gg grandmother's death index with the Vic BD&M states her mother as Lucy Pilcher. Can't remember where Martha comes in.
So I'm thinking that Bertha was actually Stephen's oldest child, maybe born out of wedlock??
Please let me know your thoughts.

by ngairedith on 2018-02-11 02:43:40

Stephen & Ann's 3rd, Stephen (1832-1929) went to Victoria, Australia. Married there in 1858 (see above journal), had 12 children there from 1859-1884 and he died there. There must be a connection with 'yours' also being from Kent and into Victoria. If you could provide a few dates I may be able to match them up

by CvanderRee on 2018-02-11 22:59:52

I think you'll find Bertha is Stephen senior's oldest child as she was born in about 1818. She died on 11 May 1866, aged 48. She is buried at White Hills Cemetery, near Bendigo.
I can't access English BD&M records from then and I don't know when or how she came to Victoria.
I do know that she married Henry William JONES in Birchington, Kent. In about 1841 they had my ancestor, Mary Ann JONES and on 12 Mar. 1846 they had a son, William Robert JONES. He was born in Kent but like Mary, he died in Melbourne in 1917. Mary Ann married on 17 Oct. 1861 in Collingwood, Victoria, Edwin FROST.
Essentially, separately or together, the JONES' including Bertha PILCHER must have come out in or before 1861.

by spooner1 on 2021-02-28 17:39:52

You will find a good family tree of the Pilcher family linked to the Jones on WikiTree. Bertha (aka Lucy) is Stephens oldest child. They sailed to Perth from England. Berthas husband was a guard for the convicts. Within a short time, they shifted to Bendigo, Victoria.
If I can help more, please let me know.

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