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I would appreciate receiving assistance in obtain information relating to the parents of John Allender (c1844-1926)

Query by ianmalik

This is what I know about him:

He was born around 1844 and died in 1926 at places unknown.
He was married to Mary Anne TURNER(c1849-1934)in 1868 in Victoria, Australia.
He had the following 8 children, all born in Ballarat, Victoria:

Birth of Son John Francis Sam ALLENDER(1870–?)
1870 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Son Henry Frederick ALLENDER(1871–?)
1871 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Daughter Mary ALLENDER(1873–?)
1873 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Son Arthur Thomas ALLENDER(1876–?)
1876 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Daughter Evelyn Wendouree ALLENDER(1879–?)
1879 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Daughter Florence Hannah ALLENDER(1879–1960)
15 AUG 1879 • Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Daughter Leonora Millie ALLENDER(1881–?)
1881 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

Birth of Son Leonard Earlington ALLENDER (1890-?)
1890 • Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia

All comments sincerely appreciated.

Ian Malik

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ianmalik has been a Family Tree Circles member since Jan 2011. is researching the following names: HULL, FORREST, ALLENDER and 2 other(s).

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by tonkin on 2017-03-31 05:33:00

DEATH.

Name: John ALLENDER.
Died: 1926.
Place: Cheltenham, Victoria.
Age: 82 years.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: Mary Ann TURNER.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #13294.

You have John's death as 1926 at 'places unknown' so this may be of some help. I think it's safe to say the informant named the wrong mother.

by tonkin on 2017-03-31 05:40:21

MARRIAGE.

Groom: John ALLENDER.
Birth place: Salop. (Shropshire UK)
Bride: Mary Ann TURNER.
Birth place: London.
Year married: 1868.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #3823.

Marriage certificate may name parents.

by tonkin on 2017-03-31 05:57:24

Had a quick look at the Civil Birth Registrations for England and Wales 1837-1915 and came up with this birth.

Name: John ALLENDER.
Registration Quarter: July August September 1844.
Registration District: Bridgnorth.
Inferred County: Shropshire.
Volume: 18.
Page: 27.

Not sure if this is your John but the year and place seems to fit so it's a start.

by ianmalik on 2017-03-31 06:06:16

Thank you tonkin..... This info is very helpful and much appreciated.

by ianmalik on 2017-03-31 06:31:24

Further to my request for information relating to the parents of John ALLENDER, I have discovered the following notes attributed to him in my Family Tree Maker files:

A Victorian Police Gazette for Sept 15th 1897 reports that a bridle was stolen from a stable at 13 Dawson St., South Ballarat, owned by a John Allender, tailor.There is a death registration for a Jno Allender for 1926 at Cheltenham and his age was given as 82 which made his birth around 1844. The notice indicated that his father was Jno & mother Mary Ann Turner which is an error because Mary Anne was his wife.He is absent from the 1914, 1919 & 1924 Electoral Rolls.There is a death for a John Allender in 1892 at East Melbourne which would tend to support the reason for Mary Ann Turner stating her next-of-kin to be her mother in the 1914 Elctoral Roll.

by tonkin on 2017-03-31 23:33:59

DEATH.

Name: John ALLENDER.
Died: 1892.
Place: Melbourne East, Victoria.
Age: 38 years.
Father: Henry ALLENDER.
Mother: Emma ATKINS.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #11173.

If John's age of 38 years at time of death is correct it means he was born circa 1854.
This indicates John was about 14 years old when he married Mary Ann TURNER in 1868.
Death certificate should name wife and children if known to informant.

DEATH.

Name: Mary Ann ALLENDER.
Died: 1934 Coburg, Victoria.
Age: 85 years.
Father: Francis TURNER.
Mother: Hannah unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #6377.

Mary born circa 1849 and would have been about 19 years old when she married John ALLENDER in 1868.

I suppose it's possible John was only 14 years old when married but he would have bumped his age up a few years.

by ianmalik on 2017-04-01 01:46:27

Brilliant!

Thank you tonkin for resolving this issue and providing some very interesting additional details.

Kind regards, Ian Malik

by janilye on 2017-04-01 02:05:22

Leonard Earlington Allender, in some land records is refered to as Eardington and Bardington. They lived at Ashburton in the 40's. He died as Leonard EARDINGTON ALLENDER, at Maldon, Vic. on the 14 June 1968.

by janilye on 2017-04-01 02:32:11

I mean't to add Leonard EARDINGTON ALLENDER had one child, a girl Natalie Leonora, she married Leonard Lindsay SELLS at Surrey Hills in July 1941. Leonard SELLS died at Maldon 2 June 2011 I don't know about Natalie, (may be still living).
Arthur Thomas ALLENDER died on the 3 June 1937 at (either Canterbury or Surrey Hills. His wife May Maud died on the 22 June 1948 at Surrey Hills age 62 their children were Arthur Peter(served in A.I.F.died at Albury on 17 November 1983. and Dorothy and Betty.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 02:32:40

DEATH.

Confirming the above death for Leonard for your records.

Name: Leonard Eardington ALLENDER.
Died: 1968 Maldon, Victoria.
Age: 77 years.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: Mary Ann TURNER.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #13844.

by janilye on 2017-04-01 02:37:18

This below was in The Ballarat Star on 27 May 1885.
Because they thought it worth announcing, I Thought it worth adding.
DEATHS
ALLENDER.— At Severn View, Hardington, Shropshire, England. Ann, the beloved wife of John Allender in her 72nd year.

by janilye on 2017-04-01 03:01:52

John Francis Sam ALLENDER was born at their home in Ligar street, Soldiers’Hill on the 1 March 1870
Florence H ALLENDER married Herbert H. SMITH on 20 December 1905 at St. George's Church, Malvern
Evelyn, daughter of John and Mary, died at Wendouree,on the 1 January 1881
age 18 months.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 03:16:12

DEATH.

Name: John Francis Samuel ALLENDER.
Died: 1871.
Place: Ballarat, Victoria.
Age: 11 months.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: Mary Ann unknown
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #124.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 03:22:22

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Leonard Eddington ALLENDER.
Bride: Gracie INGLE.
Year married: 1919.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #5638.

BIRTH.

Name: Natalie ALLENDER.
Born: 1920.
Place: Footscray, Victoria.
Father: Leonard Erdington ALLENDER.
Mother: Grace INGLE.
Ref: Registry of Births, Victoria. Reg. #31286.

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Leonard Lindsay SELLS.
Bride: Natalie Leonora ALLENDER.
Year married: 1942.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #8297.

by janilye on 2017-04-01 03:25:57

Leonora Millicent 'Millie' ALLENDER b: 19 June 1882 d: 11 June 1955

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 04:25:10

Good find by janilye for Leonora above.
Have not found a marriage for Leonora and Thomas to date.

DEATHS.

Name: Leonora Millicent IRELAND.
Died: 1959.
Place: Geelong, Victoria.
Age: 77 years.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #23137.

Cremated: Fawkner Memorial Park, Victoria.
Service date: 13 June 1959.
Cremated remains: Garden of Remembrance 1.

Name: Thomas Raymond IRELAND.
Died: 1941.
Place: Geelong, Victoria.
Age: 60 years.
Father: Thomas IRELAND.
Mother: unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #15706.

Cremated: Fawkner Memorial Park, Victoria.
Service date: 06 March 1941.
Cremated remains: Garden of Remembrance 1.

by ianmalik on 2017-04-01 04:55:58

This is all so amazing.... I can barely keep up with both of you!!

All this is very much appreciated....

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 05:52:50

DEATH.

Name: Evelyn Wendouree ALLENDER.
Died: 1881 Ballarat, Victoria.
Age: 01 year.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: Mary Ann TURNER.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #154.

Buried: New Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria.
Area: Church of England.
Section: 09.
Grave number: 27.
Age: 18 months.
Service date: 05 September 1881.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 05:59:29

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Henry Frederick ALLENDER.
Birth place: Ballarat, Victoria.

Bride: Angelina TREWIN.
Birth place: Adelaide, South Australia.

Year married: 1904.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #1696.

by janilye on 2017-04-01 06:26:42

The Ballarat Star, Saturday 19 December 1868
MARRIAGES.

ALLENDER—TURNER.— On 17th December, at Soldiers' Hill,
by the Rev. J. Watsford, Mr John Allender to Mary Ann,
second daughter of Mr F. J. L. Turner, both of Ballarat.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 06:29:57

DEATHS.

Name: Henry Frederick ALLENDER.
Died: 1944.
Place: Canterbury, Victoria.
Age: 77 years.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: Mary TURNER.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #5350.

Buried: Fawkner Memorial Park, Victoria.
Area: Presbyterian.
Section: E.
Grave number: 817.
Service date: 03 June 1944.

Name: Angelina ALLENDER.
Died: 1927 Fitzroy, Victoria.
Age: 96 years.
Father: Samuel TREWEN.
Mother: Elizabeth JOHNS.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #12604.

Buried: Fawkner Memorial Park, Victoria.
Area: Presbyterian.
Section: E.
Grave number: 817.
Service date: 03 June 1977.

Note.
Both buried on the 3rd June.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 06:48:32

DEATH.

Name: Arthur Thomas ALLENDER.
Died: 1937.
Place: Canterbury, Victoria.
Age: 61 years.
Father: John ALLENDER.
Mother: Mary Ann TURNER.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #4514.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 07:00:53

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Arthur Thomas ALLENDER.
Birth place: Ballarat.

Bride: May Maud HINDHAUGH.
Birth place: Victoria.

Year married: 1904.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #228.

DEATH.

Name: May Maud ALLENDER.
Died: 1948.
Place: Melbourne, Victoria.
Age: 70 years.
Father: Jacob HINDHAUGH.
Mother: Eliza Elizabeth WITTON.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #6175.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 07:31:09

MARRIAGE.

Groom: Herbert Henry SMITH.
Birth place: Ballarat East, Victoria.

Bride: Florence Hannah ALLENDER.
Birth place: Ballarat.

Year married: 1905.
Place: Victoria.
Ref: Registry of Marriages, Victoria. Reg. #6586.

DEATH.

Name: Florence Hannah SMITH.
Died: 1960 Geelong, Victoria.
Age: 83 years.
Father: unknown ALLENDER.
Mother: unknown TURNER.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #34572.

Cremated: Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Victoria.
Service date: 14 December 1960.
Cremated remains: Scattered at cemetery.

by janilye on 2017-04-01 12:36:44

On the marriage notice for John and Mary Ann Turner; the father,F J L TURNER.
is Francis John Lathbury TURNER he came from Surrey and his wife was Hannah HAYES. F. J. L Turner died on the 1 May 1903 at 137 Armstrong-street North Ballaarat.Hannah died at the same address on the 29 May 1902

by janilye on 2017-04-01 12:56:03

Francis J. L. Turner was listed as age 78 and Hannah was 77 when they died they are buried at Ballarat New Cemetery. (opened in 1858)

by ianmalik on 2017-04-01 13:22:47

Thank you janilye, I have copied and recorded your information.

by tonkin on 2017-04-01 21:02:09

Confirming janilye's details above for the deaths of Mary's parents
Francis and Hannah. They had a few more children that died in Ballarat.

DEATH.

Name: Francis John Lathbury TURNER.
Died: 1903 Ballarat, Victoria.
Age: 79 years.
Father: Francis John TURNER.
Mother: Mary Pascoe OLIVER.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #4279.

Buried: New Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria.
Area: Private.
Section: 5.
Grave number: 18.
Service date: 04 May 1903.
Age: Recorded as 78 years in cemetery records.

DEATH.

Name: Hannah TURNER.
Died: 1902 Ballarat, Victoria.
Age: 77 years.
Father: Timothy HAYES.
Mother: Elizabeth unknown.
Ref: Registry of Deaths, Victoria. Reg. #4123.

Buried: New Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria.
Area: Private.
Section: 5.
Grave number: 18.
Service date: 31 May 1902.

by ianmalik on 2017-04-02 01:54:41

Hi tonkin. Again, my appreciation for your detailed info, this time confirming Janilye's advice.

With respect to the father of Francis John Lathbury TURNER, my records indicate that he was John Lathbury TURNER b.1784 at Exeter, Devon, England. d.12 Jan 1832 at Calcutta, West Bengal, India.

by janilye on 2017-04-02 03:08:32

Yes and the parents of John Lathbury TURNER were William TURNER and Jane LATHBURY. His wife Mary PASCOE
This, Indigo Murder Trial I found very interesting and adds a bit of spice to the family

by janilye on 2017-04-02 03:11:58

Sorry! wife of John Lathbury TURNER was Mary Pascoe Oliver b: 1788 Cornwall died in Calcutter

by ianmalik on 2017-04-02 03:12:05

Nice! Thank you janilye....

by janilye on 2017-04-02 03:25:49

Jewellery left to Susanna OLIVER's daughters in some FARRELL Wills in India at the British Library

by janilye on 2017-04-02 03:32:30

Just noticed - That reads OLVER not Oliver - I'm so sorry, ianmalik - dreadful mistake -

by janilye on 2017-04-02 03:40:41

I'll just link these two journals so others are not repeating ourselves.
ancestors of John ALLENDER and his wife Mary Anne TURNER

by ianmalik on 2017-04-02 04:38:28

No worries Janilye...I had not got to that part yet...

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